Murtha vs. Hoyer -- Discuss

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In the end, Jack Murtha got my vote
http://www.tribune-democrat.com/editorials/local_story_314143555.html


Hoyer to fight for No. 2 party leader's role
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/elections/bal-hoyerreplace1108,0,4708472.story?coll=bal-local-headlines


Murtha Can Lead an Iraq Withdrawal
http://www.alternet.org/story/44123/


Hoyer's next hurrah
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/bal-ed.leadership12nov12,0,3580598.story?coll=bal-opinion-headlines


Murtha, Hoyer 'battle' for Majority Leader post
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Murtha_Hoyer_battle_for_Majority_Leader_1109.html


State To Benefit From Pelosi, Hoyer In Leadership
http://www.thewbalchannel.com/news/10281420/detail.html


Murtha to vie for majority leader, urges leaving Iraq
http://www.wluctv6.com/Global/story.asp?S=5653578&nav=81AX


Hoyer Optimistic About Deals With Bush on Immigration, Budget
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=aLC8v4sTebZQ&refer=home


Murtha targets top post
http://www.tribune-democrat.com/local/local_story_312234451.html?keyword=topstory


Hoyer Expects To Become Majority Leader
http://www.nbc4.com/politics/10284606/detail.html


Murtha's Influence Stretched Nationwide
http://www.wjactv.com/news/10274328/detail.html



Hoyer's my state's rep




I think both men are good, committed Democrats. John, obviously, has my gratitude for the way in which he buttressed the opposition to the Iraq occupation throughout the election and, hopefully beyond. For that reason, and for my belief that he could best press the issue of re-deployment leading to withdrawal, I would choose Murtha. I believe he cares deeply about his constituents in Pa. who share most of the same concerns of the rest of the nation, economically and otherwise. I still haven't heard enough from John about all of those Defense dollars that he's taken from the military industry. I'm damn curious about that. But, I'm willing to stuff it if he'll lead our soldiers out of Iraq.

Sorry, Steny.


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[Greeby]

1. When does the vote take place? nt

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2. I think it should have to wait until they're sworn in in January

[soothsayer]

3. Hoyer criticized Colbert for his hilarious performance at the WH

press thing!

A Democrat knocks Colbert, says Bush "deserves some respect"
House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer says Colbert's performance crossed the line.

Also, didn't Hoyer have some kind of mental breakdown? Isn't he kind of loopy these days?

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6. the breakdown thing . . . cheap shot?

details?

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7. No, I'm being serious but I can't recall if it's Jim Moran or Steny.

I think it's Steny (and I like the dude, have met him, he has a daughter named Susan) but I swear I think he had some kind of mental lapse and he's just the slightest bit loopy still. I'll try to find details, so please please don't take my word for it. I don't mean to malign the guy. But I'd go Murtha!

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4. One of the headlines

"Hoyer Optimistic About Deals With Bush on Immigration, Budget" reminded me of an old JFK quote: "Those who ride the back of the tiger often end up inside." Of course, it could be a part of the Democrats' strategy to make acceptable deals in order to appear reasonable in contrast to their Republican predecessors. However, I don't think you have to appear so slavishly eager. Steny isn't the sharpest tack on the board as I recall from my dealings with him many years ago.

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5. I thought that would spark that faction who don't believe Bush can be reasoned with.

I remember though, that our Democrat's strategy in the past when we had the majority and a republican president was to pursue investigations and pressure the WH, then negotiate from the upper hand.

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8. more please

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9. more more

please please

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10. something i heard on tv about Hoyer, i don't know if it's true but if so

it really bothered me. The claim was that Hoyer helped kill ethics reform in exchange for earmarks. Again, i don't if it's true or nit, maybe someone can confirm or deny it for me.

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