Bush proud that elections weren't cancelled.

[Metta]

From Salon. "One freedom that defines our way of life is the freedom to choose our leaders at the ballot box. We saw that freedom earlier this week, when millions of Americans went to the polls to cast their votes for a new Congress. Whatever your opinion of the outcome, all Americans can take pride in the example our democracy sets for the world by holding elections even in a time of war."

Here's a link to the transcript.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/11/20061111.html

[LynnTheDem]

1. You gotta be kidding...

Jeebus fucking Cripes!

:wow:

[EFerrari]

12. That's how close we came.

:wow:

[Autonomy]

96. You KNOW he was thinking about it

and he now wants credit for not cancelling the elections. Or at least trying to. He's like a burglar who ransacks your house, steals all your possessions, kills your dog, but wants credit for not leaving the water running.

[texanwitch]

2. I bet he wished he had canceled them now.

He didn't see this election coming.

[Patsy Stone]

3. Well

that makes two of us. :eyes:

[shadowknows69]

5. Bad foreshadowing

n/t

[yourout]

4. This "time of war" bullshit is really pissing me off.

The war is over.......the occupation is failing miserably.

[Phrogman]

75. There never was a WAR.

Just a brutal invasion and occupation.

[VOX]

101. Isn't that the truth?? There is carnage in the ME, but NO war!!!

It's all so smug and self-congratulatory of * and his handlers to think just how great things have been in this difficult "time of war." :grr:

[eliphaslevi]

6. Two Words:

Martial Law.


It's not just for conspiracy nuts.

[Laelth]

65. Welcome to DU!

:patriot:

-Laelth

[gollygee]

7. He says that like there was another option available

which there wasn't.

*sigh*

[teamster633]

8. "holding elections even in a time of war"

Something I guess we just have to get used to since 'we have always been at war with Eastasia'.
What a fucking maroon.

[bobbieinok]

34. REAL wars -- WWI + WWII .... there were elections n/t

[krispos42]

57. Even in the Civil War there were elections

When we were fully engaged on OUR OWN SOIL!!

He's still in the bubble that he's a wartime president. And it's not just rhetoric; he really thinks there is an active shooting war that if we lose we'll be invaded.

Let's look at a real declaration of war, shall we?

The War Resolution

Declaring that a state of war exists betwen the Government of Germany and the government and the people of the United States of America and making provision to prosecute the same.

Whereas the Government of Germany has formally declared war against the government and the people of the United States of America:

Therefore be it

Resolved by the Senate and the House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, that the state of war between the United States and the Government of Germany which has thus been thrust upon the United States is hereby formally declared; and the President is hereby authorized and directed to employ the entire naval and military forces of the United States and the resources of the government to carry on war against the Government of Germany; and, to bring the conflist to a sucessful termination, all of the resources of the country are hereby pledged by the Congress of the United States.


The New York Times, Vol. XCI No. 30,638, Friday, December 12, 1941, Late City Edition, front page

This is what he wants. What he's got is basically a glorified religion-fueld organized-crime network that sells heroin to buy bombs instead of vice-versa.

[Art_from_Ark]

90. There were even elections just 3 months after the White House was burned

in 1814 by British troops.

[treestar]

9. Does this moran get that the Constitution prevails even in time of war?

No, he does not.

[yorkiemommie1]

74. to him it's only a ' g-d' piece of paper

n/t

[txindy]

10. So, elections weren't held for the duration of WWII? I'll bet FDR would be surprised.

Junior is a :freak:.

[Johnyawl]

11. Well, He's right...

...and we should be proud of the fact that we have NEVER had an election cancelled because of war. We had midterm elections in 1862, and 1942; and Presidential elections in 1864, 1944, 1952, 1968 and 1972.

Anybody who thinks there is some other option is seriously 'misunderestimating' the American people.

[WinkyDink]

15. He's correct. We just GAVE HIM the option of shutting them down!

Bush believes the elections went forward from HIS noblesse oblige!

[Johnyawl]

32. He never had that option

I don't care what was going on in his pea-brain.

In the mind of the vast majority of Americans there is no option to holding elections on a regular schedule. If you remember the immediate aftermath of 9/11, Rudy G. actually hinted that the Mayors election, scheduled for that Nov, should be 'delayed' allowing HIM to put the city back on it's feet. He then suggested that perhaps they could hold the elections, but just delay inagurating the new mayor until Rudy thought it was appropriate. That went over like the pervirbial lead ballon. Elections were held on the regular schedule. The new mayor was inahurated at the regular time.

My point is, that even in the immediate aftermath of a devastating attack, and with a very popular mayor, not holding an election was never an option for the citizens of New York. They basically looked at Rudy like he'd grown an extra head.

Had Jr. announced he was cancelling that election, 25% of the people would have rallyed around their porta-potties supporting him; the remaining 75% would have been screaming for his blood.

[rubberducky]

13. Like we are living in bombed out citys,

crawling through the rubble to go stick our fingers in a purple inkpot. God, he is so nuts it`s scarry.

[NightOwwl]

48. My thoughts exactly.

If he were Joe Blow, he'd be committed by now.

[EFerrari]

14. We should rate this up so people will see just how crazy this

fascist front man is.

[greeneyedboy]

16. gotta find that silver lining somewhere, i guess.

[misternormal]

17. Kinda makes one think that he was thinkin' about it... n/t

[PATRICK]

18. Shows it was on his mind

n/t

[truthisfreedom]

19. Hmm. Too bad we can't be proud of our president, who engineered this illegal war.

What a schmuck.

[Octafish]

20. Crazy monkey thinks he was elected.

He's never won an election fair and square in his life.

[I Have A Dream]

21. Big time RECOMMENDED! People need to see this!!! n/t

[Straight Shooter]

22. Example? What example? Don't *all* democracies have elections even in wartime?

He really is an idiot.

Someone help me out, here. Any examples of a democratic country suspending elections when they were at war?

[eliphaslevi]

102. Nazi Germany's False Flag

Adolf Hitler was elected Chancellor (President) and then Burnt the Reichstag (German Parliament) Building. He Then Declared Himself Furor (Dictator) and Promised Utopia. Hitler Declared Martial Law and Suspended All Basic Human Rights.

Reichstag Fire - Encyclopedia Britannica - Reichstag fire, burning of the Reichstag (parliament) building in Berlin, on the night of Feb. 27, 1933, a key event in the establishment of the Nazi dictatorship and widely believed to have been contrived by the newly formed Nazi government itself to turn public opinion against its opponents and to assume emergency powers...his propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbels, is supposed to have devised the scheme... On Feb. 28, 1933, the day after the fire, Hitler's dictatorship began with the enactment of a decree "for the Protection of the People and the State," which dispensed with all constitutional protection of political, personal, and property rights.

Hitler and the Reichstag Fire - (The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. 2001 - In Jan., 1933), when Adolf Hitler became chancellor without an absolute majority, the Reichstag was dissolved and new elections were set for Mar. 5; a violent election campaign ensued. On Feb. 27, 1933, a fire destroyed part of the Reichstag building. Hitler immediately accused the Communists of having set the fire. President von Hindenburg proclaimed a state of emergency and issued decrees suspending freedom of speech and assembly.

Holocaust Timeline The Nazification of Germany - University of South Florida - On February 27, 1933, the Reichstag building went up in flames. Nazis immediately claimed that this was the beginning of a Communist revolution. This fact leads many historians to believe that Nazis actually set, or help set the fire. Others believe that a deranged Dutch Communist set the fire. The issue has never been resolved. This incident prompted Hitler to convince Hindenburg to issue a Decree for the Protection of People and State that granted Nazis sweeping power to deal with the so-called emergency. This laid the foundation for a police state.

[williesgirl]

23. He is CRIMINALLY INSANE! Recommended

[Rosemary2205]

24. So he was considering cancelling them?

Whatever sense of reality he had, it's gone now.

[rocktivity]

25. Is he talking about Iraq's elections--or ours?

rocknation

[cassiepriam]

26. Even in a time of war. This means he seriously thought about canceling

the elections.

[neebob]

30. That is exactly what it means.

It means he's thought about it and it's been discussed and he's still thinking about it.

[cassiepriam]

35. Probably kicking himself for not canceling the elections.

He was stopped by Rove's erroneous calculations
about the fix being in.

[neebob]

37. He's so transparent

and such a liar, you can take just about anything he says to mean the opposite. Or if he's talking about terrorists and evildoers and shit, you know he's referring to himself and his friends.

[cassiepriam]

39. It is called projection

When you take your own pathology and accuse others of doing it.

Bush is very mentally ill. :(

[neebob]

43. Nah, it's just a personality disorder

Antisocial or Narcissistic - take your pick. I think probably both.

[cassiepriam]

47. I disagree, much more complicated clinical picture

We are looking at:

Alcohol addiction and abuse
Cocaine abuse
Prescription drug abuse

Personality Disorders
Borderline (with Psychotic features)
Narcissistic
Antisocial

Rule Out: Bi Polar Disorder with psychotic features

Dementia related to drug use and medical conditions.

[neebob]

64. Okay

I'm not a clinician, so my armchair diagnosis only goes so far.

[Danascot]

91. Sociopath? Psychopath? Take your pick

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociopath

Antisocial personality disorder (abbreviated APD or ASPD) is a psychiatric diagnosis in the DSM-IV-TR recognizable by the disordered individual's impulsive behavior, disregard for social norms, and indifference to the rights and feelings of others.

Central to understanding individuals diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder, or at least psychopathy, is that they appear to experience a limited range of human emotions. This can explain their lack of empathy for the suffering of others, since they cannot experience the emotion associated with either empathy or suffering. Risk-seeking behavior and substance abuse may be attempts to escape feeling empty or emotionally void. The rage exhibited by psychopaths and the anxiety associated with certain types of antisocial personality disorder may represent the limit of emotion experienced, or there may be physiological responses without analogy to emotion experienced by others.

Diagnostic criteria (DSM-IV-TR)
The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, a widely used manual for diagnosing mental and behavioral disorders, defines antisocial personality disorder as a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring since age 15, as indicated by three (or more) of the following:

failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest
deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure
impulsivity or failure to plan ahead
irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults
reckless disregard for safety of self or others
consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain steady work or honor financial obligations
lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

Psychopathy is defined in psychiatry as a condition characterised by lack of empathy or conscience, poor impulse control and manipulative behaviors. Though in widespread use as a psychiatric term, psychopathy has no precise equivalent<1> in either the DSM-IV-TR, where it is most strongly correlated with antisocial personality disorder, or the ICD-10, where it is correlated with dissocial personality disorder.

In current clinical use, psychopathy is most commonly diagnosed using Robert D. Hare's Psychopathy Checklist-Revised (PCL-R). Hare describes psychopaths as "intraspecies predators who use charm, manipulation, intimidation, and violence to control others and to satisfy their own selfish needs. Lacking in conscience and in feelings for others, they cold-bloodedly take what they want and do as they please, violating social norms and expectations without the slightest sense of guilt or regret."<2>

Psychopathy Checklist-Revised (PCL-R)
This is a clinical rating scale with 20 items. Each of the items in the PCL-R is scored on a three-point (0, 1, 2) scale according to specific criteria through file information and a semi-structured interview. A value of 0 is assigned if the item does not apply, 1 if it applies somewhat, and 2 if it fully applies. The items are as follows:

Glibness/superficial charm
Grandiose sense of self-worth
Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
Pathological lying
Conning/manipulative
Lack of remorse or guilt
Shallow affect
Callous/lack of empathy
Parasitic lifestyle
Poor behavioral controls
Promiscuous sexual behavior
Early behavioral problems
Lack of realistic, long-term goals
Impulsivity
Irresponsibility
Failure to accept responsibility for own actions
Many short-term marital relationships
Juvenile delinquency
Revocation of conditional release
Criminal versatility
The items are then summed in order to obtain a total score. The cutoff for psychopathy is 30 points or greater (25 in some studies).

[krispos42]

97. So what would Bush's score be, do you think?

Keeping in mind he supposidly had a gay affair in the '70s or '80s during a senate campaign.

[indepat]

56. And the Congress humored him by allowing torture, suspension of habeas corpus, near dictatorial

powers and making him impervious to charges of war crimes. :mad:

[cassiepriam]

63. Yes, it is called enabling. We have been one big dysfunctional

family.

[Marie26]

81. Thank god he's deluded

in addition to being power-hungry. I think bush seriously thought they'd ride a tide of Republcian victory this election, & is now regretting his magnanimous decision to "allow" us to have elections. I can't believe he actually said this; that this actually crossed his mind. What a little dictator.

[cassiepriam]

86. Yes, in hindsight he is fantasizing that he had canceled the elections.

He continues with grandiose ideation,
that he ia all powerful, no limits.
To counterbalance the fact he has felt
impotent, powerless and stymied most of
his life??

[MoonRiver]

61. Too late now,

with that *INVESTIGATION & IMPEACHMENT* anvil hovering over his head.

[SammyWinstonJack]

92. He hates us for our freedoms. I think that's clear now.

[cassiepriam]

104. Well he has done a good job getting rid of them nt

[BlueEyedSon]

27. "..cuz that's what Dick and Karl wanted to do."

[neebob]

28. What?

Quick, somebody say something funny before I slide back into depression that this disturbing freakazoid* is still in the White House.

*Term borrowed from CrazyOrangeCat, who posted it on this thread

[Rosemary2205]

29. Freakazoid is a well worn term

I've been hearing it since the 80's.

[neebob]

31. I know

I especially liked combining it with disturbing, though, so I wanted to give a nod.

[wryter2000]

33. WTF?

Someone take the Jack Daniels away from him.

[cassiepriam]

36. This man is insane. nt

[FreeStateDemocrat]

38. When in the history of country were elections not held? Even in 1862 and 1864 during the Civil War.

[focusfan]

40. what a liar

can't you see the lies in the transcripts he would love for
the elections to be cancelled or his party to stay in power

[Hubert Flottz]

41. k and r

[w4rma]

42. Talk about low expectations. Never expect much good from Bush. (nt)

[WindRavenX]

44. well, that's a wee bit disturbing

:scared:

[peaches2003]

45. Thank our lucky stars

Thank heavens that the Dems took Congress. If not it might have been the last election for a long time. A Repug Congress would rubber stamp any plan he might have had to stay in power or name a successor in 2008 w/out holding an election 'in a time of war'.

[LeftishBrit]

46. OMG!!!!

What it shows is that your pro-democracy constitution, and the good sense of the majority of people, have protected you from your anti-democracy president.

[rman]

49. There are elections during times of war all the time

Besides, Iraq had an election not just during a time of war - it was a f'in war zone.

[jgraz]

50. Bush is why I've totally turned around on the second amendment

I'm soooo glad the American public is armed and dangerous while this monster is in power. I only wish California allowed assault weapons, since San Fran residents are likely first on the list of people that Bush is proud he didn't round up and execute.

[Greyhound]

53. Hello and welcome to the future.

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that they aren't out to get you.

All the hunting and crime arguments are tangential at best, * and the cabal are the reason for the 2nd.

[krispos42]

99. Doesn't it make your stomach drop?

You look at your gun cabinet and realize "Oh, shit", and that all that tough talk and distant, crazy 'what if' scenario-spinning might all of a sudden be there, real as the chair I'm sitting in.

Can you imagine what would happen? The states refusing to cancel elections and going toe-to-toe with Bush? Federal agents facing state troopers, county deputies, and local police at polling places?

Can you imagine the local police deputizing armed citizens to help? And US Marshals trying to deputize other citizens as well?

God, how about Bush trying to federalize the national guards of the various states and the governors trying to keep the guard under state control to protect the polling places?

[The Backlash Cometh]

51. He is looney, he is.

[The Count]

52. I guess we should thank fearless leader for the favor - like the accomplishment

that we weren't attacked since 9/11....

[eliphaslevi]

103. 9/11 was a false flag operation

IMO, the intention behind 9/11 was to declare martial law and blame it on Arabs. They failed when the White House attack didn't go successfully.

Reference:

TerrorStorm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5948263607579389947&q=terrorstorm&hl=en

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

54. Deloooo-sional. My god, who the f*** does he think he is?

:mad: MKJ

[peacetalksforall]

55. I think we should bookmark this for the future. Would you be

caught surprised if what is inferred happens in '08?

We're experiencing a honeymoon right now. Do Republicans plan to sustain a honeymoon culture in this country? Are they really going to work to 'get along' for two years?

Wait and see or attempt to think ahead knowing how desperate they are to spread their religious-corporate agenda and change the Constitution?

[Cass]

58. The other day he said voting was a privilege, now this? We never canceled elections during war time

in our history, did we? This is a frightening peek into his thought process.

[Beelzebud]

59. There is no declared war, Bush, you fucking jackass....

[rocktivity]

60. Rocknation is proud that the elections cancelled Bush.

:evilgrin:
rocknation

[sarcasmo]

62. Fool. Kick and Nom.

[eppur_se_muova]

66. W!T!F! WHO, WHO even THOUGHT elections might be cancelled, except Bu**sh** and his immediate cabal?

Bu**sh**'s "accidental truths" are so much more revealing than anything he ever says deliberately. There was definitely at least one Plan B in the wings.


:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead: to go with W!T!F!

[gkhouston]

94. it isn't 2009 yet.

Stay tuned. :scared:

[eppur_se_muova]

109. Org and gorm. You had to remind me. nt

[Rex]

67. Keep it up Chimpy.

Destroyed the GOP and just keeps going. Still happy with the 2000 installation, lurkers? :rofl:

[Vickers]

68. That assclown majored in HISTORY? George, name *one* democracy

that canceled an election because of a war. Just one.

C'mon, this should be easy.

[clichemoth]

69. Of course they had plans for martial law.

What do you think that whole pile of crap about repealing Posse Comitatus and enabling one state's Guard to be used as police in another state w/o gubernatorial permission was about? It wasn't about hurricanes or even some theoretical immigrant horde.

They didn't do it because they thought Diebold had it in the bag. It didn't work that way, did it? I wonder how many fraud operatives "misplaced" their special memory cards. Now, they'll never get another chance. Even if Osama himself flew a C-130 full of napalm into the Capitol, it would just cause a bigger backlash.

[Bluebear]

70. And THAT is how close we came. nt

[Bluebear]

84. .

[nicknameless]

71. Maybe * believed that Rove had "the math" and the rethugs would win ...

by cheating and stealing, of course.

He's proud of our crooked elections? They've gotten so bad that Carter's group wouldn't agree to observe them.

[Eurobabe]

72. Start the investigations NOW, before he does more damage

the USA!! I don't trust this slimy prick farther than I could throw him, and that would not be very far...

[MasonJar]

73. Is that the war on the Constitution that he is talking about? Or the

war on American citizens?

[jwirr]

76. Which means it was on his itty-bitty mind. Probably the only thing

that saved us was he couldn't find an adequate excuse to do it.

[StarTurtle]

77. And the Dems haven't actually taken over Congress yet.

Plenty of time to declare martial law between now and January...

:scared:

[krispos42]

100. Very true

Congress has to meet to impeach. If Congress is under arrest, they can't impeach.

[nam78_two]

78. ugh...repulsive/nt

[Marie26]

79. Oh thank you, dear leader

for granting us the privilege of holding elections "even in a time of war". Your magnificence is equaled only by your graciousness & kindness. We are but poor commoners, unworthy of this favor our Chimperor has bestowed upon us.

For a man who's such a fan of "spreading democracy," Bush has NO CLUE what a democracy actually is, does he? We're your boss, Chimpy. Get used to it, or we can fire you too.

[WinkyDink]

80. Bow and exit backwards, too!

[SouthernBelle82]

82. Interesting

So I wonder what he was planning. Is it just me or is he lately blurting things out that he shouldn't? :shrug: Like when he said he was leaving the country instead of leading.

[ComerPerro]

83. that is pathetic. So, now, Bush is trying to say the Dem win was a Repig win?

Because we are lucky to have been able to vote in the first place?

[Raster]

85. There wasn't a snowball's chance in hell the elections would be canceled.

bushCo* didn't have the juice. 60% of the country already disapproved of current leadership and direction. No amount of rovian spin or vichy media collaboration could disguise the voting public's increasing disgust with bushCo*. Canceling elections would have only fueled the anger. Not only did the elections have to go forward, they had to run relatively clean. bushCo* would not able to revisit most of their usual dirty election tricks. Too many eyes were watching. Even before the first ballot was cast, middle America wondered not if bushCo* would cheat, but rather where and how. And finally, tampering with this election would have severe consequences. The White House may have been in denial, but the rest of us weren't. Democrats with subpoena power will define the next two years.

[Tanner_B.]

93. How's Your Latin?

We still have no Habeas Corpus or Posse Comitatus in this country; the new Congress doesn't convene until January. * could still do anything.

[Raster]

105. Not.A.Chance. There is no way anyone pulling the strings would allow

bushCo* to do anything of the sort. bush* does NOT have the support of the Military. Their loyalty and support was squandered in Iraq. bush* does NOT have the support of the people. And finally, the Republican Mandarins won't allow any action that would further alienate their party. No, bush* and bushCo* and their powers that be will see the next two years on damage control. Much effort will be made to make sure that bush* can't fuck anything else up.

[wickerwoman]

87. In other news: Bush Proud that Sun Continues in it's Orbit of the Earth

"Even in this time of global terror and uncertainty, it's good to know that I haven't managed to disrupt God's placement of the firmament... yet."

[NMMNG]

88. I'm so sick of him and his freaking war

I'll be so glad when he's gone and we get the f*ck out of Iraq.

[NMMNG]

89. I'm so sick of him and his freaking war

I'll be so glad when he's gone and we get the f*ck out of Iraq.

[Done]

95. Touching...

This war has been such hell on amirkans.
We have to shop, and shop some more...and more...and more...until we drop, until we collapse in the shopping mall floor.

:cry:

God help us

:cry:

In the midst of all this heartache and sacrifice, the very fact that amirkans were able to go to the polls an vote is a great inspiration for our soldiers in Iraq.

:applause:

They must be so proud of us.

[antonialee839]

98. What a smacked ass! If "elections" weren't canceled in

Iraq with bombs falling on their heads, why on earth would elections be canceled here?
For the most part, we were able to go to our polling places without fear of being gunned down.
Bush is delusional.

[WI_DEM]

106. Bush can't just cancel elections

[bdamomma]

107. * hasn't lost his flair for BS

what a loser this guy is.

[Marr]

108. We always have elections, but here are a few things we've never done during

wartime before:

1. Cut taxes on the wealthy

2. Given blank checks to reconstruction outfits like Halliburton. They've always had to competitively bid in the past.

3. The only thing our government asked of us was that we keep shopping and stay scared.