Who is the Wizard?

[Dover]

Have we pulled back the curtain yet?

I know, I know...I'll beat you to it. I'm a "PARTY" pooper. But being as this IS still a democracy (small 'd') at least in our dreams, I'm gonna say this anyway. And in that same spirit, feel free to flame away.

What has been won? Has the curtain finally been pulled back? If so, what was revealed?
Here's what I see. I think this election was as phoney as the last two.
The voting machines didn't suddenly correct their vulnerabilities or find 'truth'.

Why else would 'they' need to clamp down even further on exit polling
(sequestering the media in lockdown prior to announcing results) which has
been the achilles heal for the creation of faux 'consensus'.

I think the real majority of U.S. voters have been fooled by polls, voting
fraud, and propaganda, into believing their moderately left leaning principles
and values are in the minority or are matched by an equally strong
conservative right-leaning electorate, when in fact they've always been the
majority (at the very least, since 2000). Quite an accomplishment by the powers that be.
They first created or exploited divisions, and now they want us to "heal",
"forgive" and come together.
Bush never could have won in this country without fraud. But the real
treachery is that this fraud was perpetrated by the Dems as well. There are
no parties in the upper echelons of power. They are used as teams on the
field. But the team owners are in charge of the rules of the game. And We
The People buy tickets to that game and invest all kinds of energy and
resources on supporting our teams. (Think Rollerball or Network or 1984).

Bush is hardly a 'failure'. He and his team were just the 'bad cops' to the
Dems 'good cops' while they bulldozed the government, looted the treasury
and 'changed the rules' of the game legislatively in order to accomodate the
eventual global initiatives of the elite class who wish to become the new
government not just nationally but, more importantly, globally. Globalism
is the wild west and the elite, particularly multi-nationals, wish to fill
the current vacuum of power and control at the global level, and demolish
global regulatory/legal agencies and/or control them (the World Court, the
U.N. etc.).

We may have seen the end of a democratic national government. As they
influence our perceptions of our government as being corrupt and ineffectual
they will 'come to the rescue' with 'efficency' and cater to the needs of
the citizens, heal their wounds, feed their hunger for a new dream and offer
their fixes.

I think our government IS currently overloaded and ineffectual at the
decision-making level and almost every other level, but the restructuring
should not be left to the beasties.

Of course we are now going to celebrate our 'win' and live under a more benign script. The new sheriff will surely bring the order and peace we so crave from the insecurities of the new frontier and the lurking boogeymen that lie just beyond our borders. But don't forget to look under your bed or in your own closet.

[Helga Scow Stern]

1. Very well said. Recommended. n/t

[Mythsaje]

2. Anyone who thinks the game is going to run same as usual

should reconsider. There's a new player this time around.

US.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2695877&mesg_id=2695877

[Dover]

3. Agreed. It's also an illusion that WE are powerless to effect change.

But we are less effective when we are operating under misperceptions of the way things are.

And it is frustrating to get organized in such a large and sprawling country but nevertheless, every time we make a choice throughout our day we are actively choosing the reality we wish to participate in. Conscious choice. THAT is a vote they can't take away.

So millions of individual initiatives add to up to BIG initiatives and a tsunami of change.

[Mist]

4. Great post, Dover! I was just asking the question "what's this dog-and-pony show

all about?" when I came across your post. Excellent point about sequestering exit polling. I guess I was wondering about the following:
given that Shrub is not, and never has been, actually in charge, has this been a Cheney vs. Poppy feud all along?

If Poppy and his team were going to come in and be the grown-ups, why did they wait so long?

To what extent has Cheney been representative of the powers that be?

I'm turning over different scenarios in my mind to try to make sense of why the Shrub admin. was allowed to screw things up so very badly before the "man behind the curtain" realized that someone else has to run the Presidency.

[Dover]

5. Who says GW screwed things up? Relative to what?

Of course no one can know the big picture. But we can turn this rubik's cube around and look for patterns.

Who says there is a feud between Poppy and Cheney?

In other words, what template or assumptions have you made and what are you basing them on? Start there. Write them down and look at them.

It's mind boggling to think about all this administrative 'team' was able to do. And that overloading of our system with a barrage of bullets was tactical in my opinion, to break the back of an already overloaded system. It would take years and years to undo all that was changed...assuming anyone at the top WANTED to. However, the collapse of our government as we've known it IS one of the goals. Think like them, like corporatists. Think hostile takeover of an entity that has become
weak and ripe for the pickings. What do you do?
Think, symbolically of the Twin Towers. To me they are opting for accelerated rather than slow change. And very few saftety nets for those caught in the'old America' as Rumsfeld would probably call it...or the 'new normal' as Cheney suggested.

And do you buy that there was really any major disagreements about the current course? I think we are, more or less, where they want us to be. They are only stocking D.C. with fresh horses. They have run their GOP steeds hard, long and fast.

If one changes their template to view both 'teams' working in unison (with only some disagreement about strategy rather than desired outcome) then things start to make sense, and of course the political fallout for any deed is only a superficial wound, and taking one for the team relative to the larger task at hand. Some are informed and inside the loop, others are sacrificial lambs. But all in all, the goal posts haven't really moved.

The multinationals have infiltrated and bought off our government. And this dismantling 'reownership' phase will take some time.

[Mist]

7. I know my post was a bit short and lacking in details--I'm just wondering

about the relationship of Poppy to the Cheney/Rumsfeld presidency. Since Cheney and Rummy were pals from back in the Nixon days, I've always assumed this was a Cheney/Rummy presidency, with Shrub as the public face. I have NEVER thought that Shrub has any real power. To use a corporate template, I suppose Poppy just sucked up his dislike of Rummy for the greater good of the corporate enterprise. I wonder if Cheney is next--there's lots of speculation about that. I also wonder at the timing--I suppose it was thought to be more plausible and easier to do all this around a scheduled election. I wonder to what extent, if at all, the powers that be were surprised by the Dem wins. FWIW, I think of the powers that be as a poker game, with multibillionaires and heads of multinational corporations comprising the players. Some come and go, and new people come in and take a seat at the game (such as Soros). It may be a comic-book way of looking at it, but it's good mental shorthand! I think if the powers that be intended to trash to Constitution and render it meaningless, they'll do what they can to prevent the Dems from restoring it. That's my biggest concern. After all, they have had 5+ years of an unaccountable executive; they won't care to be hampered by Constitutional law, and checks and balances!

[Dover]

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