Some DUers make me think of this:

[Botany]

I want impeachment now! (even though we don't have the votes)

Harry Reid didn't say everything I wanted him too.

Nancy Pelosi doesn't sound mean enough.

I am so mad that we took both the House & Senate so that bush
had to invite the democratic leadership to the White House.
How come they didn't leave a flaming bag of poop on the door step
and ring the bell and run away.

Who will run as the party's choice in '08? It better not be ____________ (fill in the
blank) he/she can't win.

Please chill out. We had a great national victory and things are going our way.
Step back and be happy for once. The Investigations will come along soon
enough.

Some people just can't be happy. unbearable! :rofl:

[xultar]

1. BRAVO!!! BRAVO!!! BRAVO!!! BRAVO!!! BRAVO!!! BRAVO!!!

BRAVO!!! BRAVO!!! BRAVO!!! BRAVO!!! BRAVO!!!
BRAVO!!! BRAVO!!! BRAVO!!! BRAVO!!! BRAVO!!!
BRAVO!!! BRAVO!!! BRAVO!!! BRAVO!!! BRAVO!!!

[Botany]

3. thanx Xultar

@ least one person agrees with me.

We get the House, the Senate, Rummy's head, Bolton's a goner, Mehlman is toast,
investigative powers into bush/cheney, and made Rove look like a fool yet people
complain.

Reminds of date years ago .... Fly out to Utah to ski and all she did was complain
that our hotel room's view of Park City could have better.

[Stardust]

9. I agree with you, too!

If that's you with the bear, that date must've been blind. You are adorable!

[Botany]

13. post # 3

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=315x8271

I am the guy .... :rofl:

with some person by the name of Stephanie Miller.

[Stardust]

46. So you aren't the guy with the bear? (You're still cute, though.)

[Botany]

48. Sorry

:rofl:

[robinlynne]

64. Do you know the guy with the bear? I want to meet him. and the bear.

[Botany]

70. post # 14 in this thread

[Stardust]

90. Hey! I had first dibs!

[robinlynne]

92. ok. It's really the bear I'm interested in. he gives courses, and you can go

watch bears!

[elehhhhna]

22. Heard a Texan lady once complain that the sea water off Grand Cayman

was "too cold"...at 84 degrees.

LMAO

[ronnykmarshall]

52. I agree with you too!

:yourock:

[SwingVoter2006]

2. LOL! Perfect...

:rofl:

[survivor999]

4. These people would not mind being dictators themselves.

[Strelnikov_]

5. That Is One Big Ass Black Bear

If it's not photoshopped, that is.

[Botany]

14. No photo shop

http://www.bear.org/Grizzly/GB_Home.html

Biologist in Minnesota has spent his life trying to understand
bears. This big male used to come and just sit by him.

His name is Lynn Rodgers



click on main page and go to "Are Black Bears Dangerous."

[elehhhhna]

21. Geez. Why would someone name a bear "Lynn Rogers"?

:rofl:

[Botany]

24. the bear's name is not Lynn Rogers

.... oh you make a joke. I am soooo mad @ you.

:spray:

[Clark2008]

57. Bot, you'll have to repost that pic when I have my baby.

:hug:

[Botany]

62. Did I ever tell you that you are my Fav?

I just googled "terrible twos" after reading some of the posts here today.

So when is the baby due? The name Tom is a good one for boys and
Stephanie works for girls. Congrats!

Does Wes know?

[Clark2008]

85. Due in June (but I'm thinking end of May - I grow BIG babies

and I've told the doc, "NO MORE 10-POUNDERS!)

And, I'll take Tom and Steph under advisement, but I think we're looking at Simon and Hannah. :7

And, not sure if Wes knows... I think he might, but, if he doesn't, he'll know soon.

But that Mama and Baby Bear was just TOO CUTE! Now, where's that porridge?

[midnight]

91. How exciting that your expecting another baby.

We have just had our first grandbaby. She is absolutely breathtaking. And that smile is so big. She reminds me of Charlie Brown-she is adorable.

[Clark2008]

95. Thank you.

This will be my second. My little boy is 7 years old - long time between the two, but this one was an "oopsie," but more like a surprise blessing. :loveya:

[IndyOp]

65. Direct link to Black Bear Slide Show here:

http://www.bear.org/SlideShows/HowDangerous/Slide_01.html

[BlackVelvet04]

6. A case of trying to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory. n/t

[Botany]

12. oops dupe

[Fleshdancer]

7. But on the bright side....

at least we're adorable when we whine. :D

Cute girl...is she yours?

[xultar]

11. No kidding. Limpballs and Coultergeist are fugly when they whine.

[txindy]

8. Not a chance.

Some people aren't 'happy' unless they're miserable. :shrug:

I've waited 12 years for this. I'm happy and I don't care who knows it. :patriot:

[AntiFascist]

10. and some DUers eat Whoreos....

:rofl:

[novalib]

15. What The HELL?!?!?!

What the hell good is gaining power if you do NOT do the right thing???!!!!

If gaining power means ANYTHING OTHER THAN A PURSUIT OF JUSTICE AGAINST ONE OF (if not THE) the worst abusers of human rights in the history of the world, then what in the HELL is the POINT?!?????!!!!!!

[Botany]

17. because now is NOT THE TIME

Want to help the repugs and hamstring the dems / liberals then keep screaming about
impeachment now now now

BTW I live in Columbus, Ohio and saw the election theft 1st hand in 04 too.

[novalib]

23. Kinda Like That "Gay Rights" thing, eh???

I get sick and tired of hearing -- when dealing with JUSTICE issues -- that "Now is not the right time"!!!

Because you know what, It somehow NEVER is the right time!!!

Kinda like what African Americans used to be told about their rights.

Kinda like what gays are told about their rights.

JUSTICE ---- NOW!!!

[Botany]

28. O.K. you are right, so chant with me

"THE PEOPLE UNITED WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED .... THE PEOPLE UNITED WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED "



Jobs! Justice! End Racism!

Free the naval lint Free the naval lint.

[novalib]

30. OK.

It's one of my favor chants:

THE PEOPLE UNITED WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED!

THE PEOPLE UNITED WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED!!

(I'm really not so sure about the naval lint thing, though -- sorry)

[novalib]

16. What The HELL?!?!?!

What the hell good is gaining power if you do NOT do the right thing???!!!!

If gaining power means ANYTHING OTHER THAN A PURSUIT OF JUSTICE AGAINST ONE OF (if not THE) the worst abusers of human rights in the history of the world, then what in the HELL is the POINT?!?????!!!!!!

[kiahzero]

18. Hyperbole is fun, isn't it? (n/t)

[novalib]

25. I Suppose ????

I suppose hyperbole is fun.

But I really don't know, since I don't engage in hyperbole.

Ya know?

[kiahzero]

I beg to differ.

If gaining power means ANYTHING OTHER THAN A PURSUIT OF JUSTICE AGAINST ONE OF (if not THE) the worst abusers of human rights in the history of the world, then what in the HELL is the POINT?!?????!!!!!!

You're claiming that Bush is one of the, if not the worse abuser of human rights in the history of the world. That's hyperbole. It's doubtful he's even in the top 10. Even if you limited it to the 20th century and onward, he'd be remarkably low on the list. He's bad, there's no doubt about that, but you overstate the case, which only ends up making you look the fool and weakening your argument.

[novalib]

29. My Bad

Oh, my bad!!!

George the MURDERER and LIAR isn't so bad.

I guess that means we can just be nice to him.

:sarcasm:

[kiahzero]

32. Strawmen are fun too, eh? (n/t)

[novalib]

And Letting Criminals Off is Fun!

Justice is such an inconvenient truth!!

[kiahzero]

38. You've got me convinced.

You've convinced me that a number of people arguing for impeachment aren't willing to do so rationally, and would rather make all sorts of fallacious arguments and emotional appeals.

Was that what you were going for?

[novalib]

40. YIPPEE!!

You DO understand!!

And here I thought you were just being dense!!

Either that, or you were trying to engage in a flame war!!!

(But you would never do that, right??)

[Divine Discontent]

63. LOL

now that's better. I noticed that comment of yours too, but this is HILARIOUS for a response in reply to anyone saying, yeah Bush is pretty damn bad but the WORST is a bit extreme, and so you simplify it to being JUST as bad as Hitler because Bush is a murderer for sending those boys off to their deaths and being in charge while 100's of thousands die in Iraq and Bush lies ALL the time...

YOU GET A HUGE WTG FOR THE COMEBACK, IT'S PRETTY DAMN BRILLIANT.



www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <<-- antibush prodem stickers/shirts

[AntiFascist]

45. So Bush really isn't so bad after all, is that it?

Killing 100,000s of innocent Muslims isn't so bad in the name Christ, $$$, and petroleum. What happened in New Orleans isn't so bad, it took care of much of the problem.

[kiahzero]

54. Once again:

[AntiFascist]

68. Whoreos are DLC-icious! n/t

[kiahzero]

74. At least now you're on new fallacies.

Argumentum ad hominem. I don't have a nice graphic for that one, though.

[AntiFascist]

78. Don't make me whip out MY photoshop! n/t

[AntiFascist]

80. Let me spell it out for you, without attacking any uh, er,....

Democrats.

Kerry gets attacked almost destroying his chances at a presidential run (he's the one with the goods on BCCI and Iran-Contra figures).

Bush I swoops in with his consiglieri to rescue his son and to fill the void left by neocons.

Now its time to play nice and promote bipartisanship because there's a little something in this for every congressperson who plays along.

[kiahzero]

81. Which has nothing to do with Bush not being the worst abuser of human rights.

Remember, my original qualm was with the hyperbole of another poster, and his subsequent logical fallacies in denouncing my post.

[AntiFascist]

82. arguendo ad infinitum...

Bush doesn't have to be the "worst abuser" in order to be really, really bad.

[kiahzero]

84. I didn't say he did.

I said that the OP was engaged in hyperbole.

[AntiFascist]

86. Oh, I thought you meant the poster of #16....never mind

BTW, I'm naturally happy arguing when I know I'm right.

[kiahzero]

87. Oy... I did mean #16.

So not technically the OP.

[AntiFascist]

89. oh hoy, but the op is also engaged in hyperbole...

this is our way of celebrating.

[Patsy Stone]

36. Yes

But his point is that it doesn't have to begin today. Tomorrow is soon enough.

Instead of arguing about issues less than a minute after Tuesday's smackdown became apparent, we all just need to dance around the living room for a little while and ENJOY the victory, okay?

[Botany]

42. Did I ever tell you that you are my Fav?

Do not tell the others .... especially the Tex ASS EDVs.

Can i have this dance?

BTW Mr. Stone isn't around is he?



Some people can't be happy. This is a real e mail I got from Ohio's new
Sec. of State (getting Blackwell's old job). She and the new A.G. have
promised to look into the '04 election theft.

Tom,

I'm actually in Florida for the weekend. If there's an opportunity Tuesday
or later, I'd be glad to. Just let me know.

Jennifer

John Conyers now has subpoena power :woohoo:

[Patsy Stone]

49. Do you tango?

Oh, please make sure there's an opportunity to speak with the lovely Jennifer. :)

Say it loud, "SUBPOENA POWER!!!"

p.s. Bob's your uncle. I know how catty they can be.

[Botany]

59. Can you imagine the nerve of Ms. Jennifer?

Taking a vacation after a campaign .... and still she has
the gall to send e mails back to Ohio to a nobody (me)
and to let me know that she would help in the
Mary Jo Kilroy v Deb Pryce count the all the votes
congressional race ...... damn she is only a judge with
20 years expertise in election law.

She should be here now! :rofl:

and Catty isn't a strong enough of a word about the EDVs!
not to name names but there is ........ :rofl:

[laugle]

19. Excellent--recommended! Sometimes a picture says a thousand words! n/t

[elehhhhna]

20. Ya forgot "That idea SUCKS and it will never work"

:nopity:

[femrap]

26. Now comes the fun part....SUBPOENAS AND HEARINGS!!!

We'll get to Justice, but we have to make sure that all Americans know what this regime has been up to for the past six years, right?

I bet the MSM even gets into the fun, don't you?

I am stocking up on popcorn and setting my TV on C-Span. This is going to be better than Watergate!!!!

[fooj]

27. Not flaming poopbag door bell ditch........

:rofl:

Too funny.

[Botany]

33. Wonder why Harry Reid is smiling?

[Bandit]

31. I can't imagine why anyone would want to hold criminals accountable

:shrug:

[kiahzero]

34. Hrm.

:shrug:

[Botany]

35. I will try one more time

REP. JOHN CONYERS NOW HAS SUBPOENA POWER.

Do you know how big that is?

Jay Rockefeller will release the pre war intel about Iraq and WMDs that Pat Roberts
and the White House has hid.

[LWolf]

37. Some DUers make me think of this:

all marching proudly in step:



cheering on the team, regardless of what they do:



But personally, I prefer this response to last week's victories; it's time to get to work. It's time to clean house, sweep out corruption, and wipe out those insidious corporate germs:

[AntiFascist]

55. Exactly, its kind of like the non-impeachment crowd is telling us...

oh go ahead, BLINK!

[Individualist]

72. They remind me more of Nazi collaborators from WWII

Go along to get along.

[mmonk]

39. If you know anything about impeachment, you'll know

investigations preceed the articles. So it's a straw man or false impression you are presenting.

[xultar]

41. Not really. Those who want impeachment now forget that investigations

and hearings will be held regardless. I think that they forget that and think since we aren't going to draft articles of impeachment we won't investigate either.

I think the impeachment now crowd forgets that we'll be investigating regardless.

[mmonk]

61. And who will care if you have investigations without remedy?

That won't insure democratic victory in 08. Some will assume they did nothing wrong. I support the constitution. I consider it and my freedom and that of my children as unconditional. I don't make nice with rattle snakes or carry knives to a gun fight.

[xultar]

79. The impeachment won't be a remedy either. We don't have the votes

to even win an impeachment vote in the house.

[AntiFascist]

76. no, at least not in my case...

I fully support deep investigations, but I think the only way we'll get them is if the people demand impeachment. I can understand our leadership playing along with the administration until they are forced by the people to take stronger action. What I can't stand are those who want to compromise because they feel the crimes of the administration "just ain't that bad".

[Patsy Stone]

83. He's saying bask in the victory for a minute;

relish what we have won. We've been arguing issues non-stop since Wednesday. He presents no argument other than a message to DU to stop yelling at each other for five minutes and savor the victory.

[Johnny Noshoes]

43. Relax everyone the hearings will happen and the case made.

The picture is for all those with no patience.

[TahitiNut]

44. Some DUers remind me of this.

Don't get out of line! Follow the leadership! If you want to think for yourself, you shouldn't join a political party!!



So, how far to the cliffs, fellow lemmings??

:eyes:

[bleever]

47. Softly softly catchee monkey.

(One of my favorite posts from the weeks after the 2004 election.)

:)

[Botany]

53. the sly bleever understands

It is better to bight slow and steady then to rent a chain saw.

[bleever]

58. John Conyers has subpoena power.

I'm still trying to get used to the idea!

After six years, it's taking a little while to get all the dust off of my happy dance.

:thumbsup:

[Patsy Stone]

66. Maybe you just need

Boogie shoes?



:hi:

[bleever]

75. Somewhere

in a Peter Max cartoon, someone is wondering where their shoes are.

:hi:

[Patsy Stone]

77. It's okay

Because if they're in a Peter Max, they probably don't even remember that they had shoes. :)

[Botany]

67. I got your boogie right here bleever!

They say that when your ship comes in, the first man takes the sails;
What's the point of callin' shots; this cue ain't straight in line.
Cue ball's made of styrofoam and no one's got the time.

Halfstep, Mississippi uptown toodeloo Hello, baby, I'm gone, goodbye
Half a cup of Rock and Rye. Farewell to you old Southern skies
I'm on my way, on my way.



and if you look up thread that is an e mail from Ohio's brand new Sec.
of State to little old me.

With her and Conyers on the 04 election (along with our brand new A.G.)
the story is going to come out.

[bleever]

73. I saw that email and I thought,

Gee, I hope Botany doesn't "get over it" before he has a chance to talk to her.

:rofl:

[KharmaTrain]

50. It's Not What To Do, It's Where To Start

There's lots of evaluating we have to do here. Six years of one party control, 12 years of one party domination of the legislative. While we can suspect and put pieces together about a lot of crimes committed by this regime, we've still been in the political "woodshed" and are walking into a messy Congress.

Rest assured 2007 will not be a great year for members of the boooosh cabal...or the Repugnican party. Several investigation are ongoing, others are ramping up...and now some that have been stonewalled can be truly allowed to run its course. I want justice and know it takes time...but I want that justice to be fair, just and overwhelming. Give Henry Waxman and Russ Feingold to spend a time to dig in with their newly vested subpoena power and then let's see what they find and how people feel.

Impeachment isn't as important as clearing out all the criminality that occured during this regime's regin of terror. If anything it would be a distraction...extracting political for true justice...something the one would hope Democrats wouldn't emulate the Repugnican's tactics.

I'd far prefer to pick off regime members one by one with their own slime and corruption...and further isolate the lame duck manchild and make his crumbling party. The game here is to win bigger in '08 and get 4 years, not 2 to really work to enact change. The key to that is working on positive legislation...things that will help the middle class and make a contrast over the oligarchy that ran the country. Play the cards right and Democrats can remain the majority party for the next generation.

[tandot]

51. Thanks, Botany!!!

I am as happy as I can be. I am savoring our victory.

We'll have investigations and expose the criminals who are occupying the White House right now. I am not worried about it.

Right now, I'd like to the Democrats to focus mainly on getting the business of the People done. We'll have to win in 2008 again and I want to have another Democratic victory. We have to show that we have great plans for the future. If we spend ALL of our time investigating everything, instead of improving minimum wage, health care, social security, immigration, and social justice, we'll regret it.

As much as I want those criminals punished, the long-term goal of making America better for all of us is way more important to me. Bush and his Administration is essentially castrated. He is not just a lame duck, he is a duck without wings and legs. We'll work on undoing the harm he has caused to the Constitution while focusing on improving the lives of all of us.

[Raine]

56. HURRAY

TOTALLY agree, I'm so tired or all the whining and complaining...I'm still basking in the glow of victory and want to enjoy it as long as I can!:D

[GeorgeGist]

60. Political expediency...

is such a bitch.

[catmandu57]

69. Just like my cat with a mouse let's play

We have these ashholes trapped in a very deep hole they've dug themselves. They can't get out, there isn't any escape for them, let's swat them around, throw them into the air and catch them in our mouth, we have these cocksuckers justice will be done, in due time, they aren't going anywhere.
Enjoy, besides that nobody has been sworn in yet, that comes in January, let's enjoy this and let them dig a deeper hole between now and then.

[Botany]

71. You have a real nasty streak ...

.... I like that.

[hfojvt]

88. you don't have to tell me. I'm still dancing in the endzone!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=5830968&mesg_id=5830968

[AZBlue]

93. Some DU'ers are only happy when they are complaining.

[AntiFascist]

94. "I hate it when the Left rocks the boat!"...

[dweller]

96. just buy a new shirt .

i did on tuesday, a beautiful dark blue cotton but with a sheen to it, at the local thrift shop. Just had come away from voting and was looking for some acknowledgement. Spotted the shirt, it was new, and a perfect fit :)

stuck my 'i voted' sticker on it, and have worn it 4 out of 5 days at work and got many compliments on it. (yeah, i washed it, and kept on wearing it).

when it's noticed, i just reply 'it's a good time to be BLUE!'

major agreements in return,
dp

[puebloknot]

97. This precocious "wunderkind"...

...needs to read the Constitution, or have one of the "adults" in her life read it to her.

I have been reading, very thoroughly and very consistently, the many threads here at DU about impeachment, and have posted in many of them. It's my sincere opinion that you do a grave injustice to the thoughtful exchange that has taken place on this issue with this mocking of what concerned and informed people are discussing.

No one is screaming for impeachment NOW. The new Congress must be seated in January before this serious question can be taken up. However, many of us are quite concerned over Nancy Pelosi's unitary decision to take impeachment off the table. It is not her right to make that decision under the Constitution. It could be reasonably argued that making references to "the Constitution" is a fool's mission, since GW has referred to it as "just a god damned piece of paper." However, We the People must go forward with the assumption that the threats to that hallowed document are not permanent -- not, that is, if we urge our leaders to do their duty under the Constitution.

Not knowing in advance (not having the votes) whether a conviction will take place is not a reason not to hold criminals in this administration to account, and impeachment is the prescribed method for doing that, under the Constitution. Impeachment is the process of getting on the record the activities of a rogue executive and other members of the administration. Clinton was *impeached*, but he was not convicted.

However, let me not be guilty of making any kind of serious comparison between the Clinton impeachment (which was an illegal farce), and holding to account the Bush administration for their many crimes against our country, and the world, through impeachment.

Truthout.com today makes the point that I have been making since November 7:

FOCUS | Truthout: Impeachment and the Table http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/111306Z.shtml
Truthout believes that by stating flatly that "impeachment is off the table," incoming Speaker Pelosi and incoming Chairman Conyers appear to have erred rather substantially. Impeachment, of course, is a matter of Constitutional law, not personal discretion on the part of individual lawmakers. The pre-emptive nature of the decision by Pelosi and Conyers stands in sharp contrast to every principal of law enforcement. Congress - whether controlled by Democrats or Republicans - has a solemn duty to uphold and when necessary enforce the law.

Very truly yours,

Judy Barrett, Citizen
United States of America