Gore picked Lieberman for VP in 2000 and therefore is not qualified

[Blu Dahlia]

to be in the highest office of the land.

He should not be given another chance to run. Besides, the media will just pick up where it left off before in calling him stiff and boring. Let's look towards the future and move away from the past.

EDITED- I am backing Wesley Clark and John Edwards 2008!

[Horse with no Name]

1. Nice try.

Gore didn't pick LIEberman.
The "party" picked LIEberman.
Message to remember: Don't let the "party" pick anything except their own collective asses.

[xultar]

4. So did the party pick Edwards or did Kerry?

[Clark2008]

10. The party, I'm quite sure.

Based on media swooning.

Ahem..

:evilgrin:

[Horse with no Name]

11. The party did

although it was (I thought) a nice match.

[proud2BlibKansan]

2. I support Gore 1000%

His candidacy would be a dream come true for many of us. He is a far better candidate than anyone else being mentioned.

Lieberman wasn't a DINO in 2000.

[Clark2008]

7. Actually, yes, Lieberman WAS a DINO in 2000.

Holy Joe earned his nickname blasting Clinton for an affair that was of no concern to either the public or the Starr people... thus, earning the nickname "Holy" Joe.

That said, it doesn't detract from Gore.

[proud2BlibKansan]

12. I guess he seems worse now

but thanks for correcting me.

[Clark2008]

37. You're correct.

He DOES seem much worse now, agreed.

[aquart]

13. Yeah. It would be nice to finally get the President we elected.

And then we could pretend all those people hadn't died because of the BushCo Coup.

[AtomicKitten]

62. ditto

[StClone]

3. After Bush's Nightmare

Gore is o.k cowboy in these parts pard.

[stlsaxman]

5. ZZZZzzzzzzzz...

:boring:

on edit: GORE IS THE ONLY CANDIDATE. PERIOD.

[buff2]

19. I AGREE!!!!

Gore is my FIRST choice.Blub Dahlia can GET OVER IT!

[Fridays Child]

6. Uh, you're overlooking a minor detail...

Gore and Lieberman won in 2000.

It seems that it you who is unqualified, here--unqualified, that is, to come to a rational conclusion about Al Gore. :eyes:

[Blu Dahlia]

22. the win could have been by a much larger margin

Thus, eliminating the impact of fraud in Florida and the electoral college fiasco.

[Fridays Child]

58. Al Gore is a genuine public servant and he should be president.

Too bad you can't figure that out. And, by the way, he won by a huge margin, in Florida. Either you have conveniently forgotten the widespread, systematic fraud and disenfranchisement, in that state, or you think that, somehow, Gore should have had a crystal ball and exposed Florida's criminal voter activity, before it began.

Get a grip.

[aquart]

8. Is someone scared that an environmentalist might run?

Who would that be?

[JackBeck]

9. Gore was VP during 8 years of peace and prosperity in the United States.

He's got my vote.

Seems to me he knows a bit more about how the government should be correctly run.

[MasonJar]

14. Excuse me if I totally disagree. Al Gore is one of the finest states-

men in this country. If he elects to run for the presidency, then he should win the nomination. Why should the democrats be directed by the illiberal press? This time it is up to the press to change or go down in flames. They are no longer credible. I for one am sick of their phony news. It is up to us to prove the irrelevance of the corporate media. Gore won last time and he can win again.

[Blu Dahlia]

18. But he showed bad judgment when he picked Lieberman

Lieberman wouldn't be in office today if it weren't for Al Gore propping up his ego like that.

[buff2]

23. Gore didn't know LIEberman was a lying vicious traitor

He didn't show his true colors until the debate with Cheney. THAT'S when the bu$h/cheney lovefest was exposed for all to see.

[Blu Dahlia]

31. Didn't know? So when Lieberman was trying to kick Clinton under the bus,

Gore didn't know?

[buff2]

46. Clinton Got a blow job

LIEberman was jealous....plus he had to do the God and morals thing. Gore probably thought Clinton's BJ might hinder him from winning and he chose his holiness to run with him. Bad choice,BIG mistake.....but that doesn't make Gore bad.Not at all.Khrist,haven't we ALL made mistakes? :eyes:

[John Q. Citizen]

32. Uh, Senators serve for 6 years, or didn't you know that?

[Blu Dahlia]

39. Ned Lamont would have won

I'm sure of it. Lieberman's ego was too huge to bow out the race gracefully when he lost in the primaries. His ego is huge because of Gore picking him back in 2000, and I would also imagine that CT voters take great pride in that as well.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

42. "His ego is huge because of Gore picking him back in 2000" !?!

Gore is responsible for Lieberman's ego!
Come in, Sigmund!

[Blue Belle]

47. Joe lieberman wouldn't be in office today if it weren't for...

the Republicans sinking money into his campaign. Period.

[mondo joe]

53. Didn't the democratic party nominate them both? Are we qualified

to nominate again?

[melody]

70. Excuse me?

There's a contention that requires supportive argument -- "propping up his ego like that"?

There are myriad things that go into the selection of a VP running mate.

I loathe Lieberman, but I still am behind Gore 100%. Anyone who uses one incidental factor to exclude any candidate
is doing so unwisely, imho. It would be the same as my saying, "Oh, Clark -- he's no good, he's a militarist. He was
Supreme Allied Commander!" and trying to skate with that one. I think Clark would be an excellent candidate, but I
think Gore is better.

We need to stop tearing down good people merely to build up one as "better than the rest". The battles ahead of us are far
too important.

[5X]

15. Gore / Lamont. n/t

[Horse with no Name]

17. Lamont isn't a good choice

Not saying he isn't a good man, but there are many others who could fill the ticket better than he could.

[5X]

33. I'm just joking about the Lamont part....

as a way to stick it to lieberman.

Serious about Gore, tho.

[laylah]

16. Forget it...we aren't buying any...

[Little Wing]

20. Well, I guess that settles that

Who else do we have?

[stlsaxman]

40. If Gore is out, all we Dems have left is McCain....

heheheh

[Name removed]

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[buff2]

27. LOL!

:thumbsup:

[Blu Dahlia]

28. let me see if I have this right...

If I don't want Gore I must be some sort of troll?

:eyes:

[Karenca]

34. I think your problem is that you called him 'UNQUALIFIED"

When he probably is the MOST qualified.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

35. It's WHY you say you don't want Gore. Who DO you want?

I'm pulling for you to undo your silliness.

[Blu Dahlia]

41. anybody but Kerry or Gore... Edwards? Clark?

Even Hilary Clinton or Howard Dean? Obama (if this country were not so racist)?

[buff2]

36. "Get over it" Now where did we hear that one all the time????

Now YOU figure it out.

[John Q. Citizen]

38. Nope, it's your style that's tipping folks off.

[stlsaxman]

56. any idea what a "troll" is here at DU?

I am not saying this about you, BD, but my understanding of a "troll" is someone from FreeRepublic or a Dittohead that registers on DU just to stir up sh*t. A disrupter.

For all I know you're very honest in your feelings about Al Gore being unqualified for the office. If so, please feel welcomed to DU where we openly debate such things knowing that if others just happen to disagree with us, we try to maintain respect for each other.

But please- if I'm wrong about this, don't go away mad...

[GenDem]

24. I don't think

there's anyone MORE qualified than "President Gore". As far as stiff and boring, I think he's shook that off for good.

[stlsaxman]

45. Hi GenDem! and welcome to DU!

:hi:

[newyawker99]

66. Hi GenDem!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[John Q. Citizen]

25. So who are you backing?

Gore picked Lieberman to help him win Florida, which he did.

Why does that disqualify Gore?

[ronnykmarshall]

26. Oh please!

[Karenca]

29. Not qualified?

Gore won the election.
And he would still be in office if the fucking bastards did
not steal it from him
in 2000.

That is all.

[BlooInBloo]

30. LOLOL!!!! Oh shit -- you're serious.

[shadowknows69]

43. Good to know that possibility frightens some people though

Duly noted.

[Blu Dahlia]

44. Hillary Clinton is also frightening to Repubs and Dems

So does that mean she should run too?

[Blue Belle]

51. Actually, the Republicans want Hillary to run...

that way they can demonize her even further - if that is possible.

[smoogatz]

63. They want her to run because they see her as a polarizing figure

with high negatives who would be an easy pick-off for someone like McCain or the now defunct Allen, though recent polling shows her running neck and neck with His Saintliness.

[shadowknows69]

52. I'm certain she will

I hope Gore joins the fray and sends her packing.

[smoogatz]

64. Of course she should run.

She'll get thoroughly pasted by both Gore and Edwards, but she should run. The more, the merrier.

[Alexander]

48. Good presidents/candidates have picked poor VPs on occasion.

Should JFK, in hindsight, picked Lyndon Johnson? See: Vietnam. Looking back, LBJ would've been better as Senate Majority Leader.

Should FDR have picked John Nance Garner? He famously hated the position and, eventually, FDR. Maybe Wallace should've been chosen from the beginning.

As for candidates:

Should John Kerry have picked John Edwards? I thought it would bring "balance" to the ticket, but that obviously didn't work out. Looking back I would've preferred Bill Richardson or Wesley Clark.

Should Walter Mondale have picked Geraldine Ferraro? Her inexperience and husband's tax return problem hurt the ticket.

We all thought - at the time - Lieberman would have been a lot better than he is now. Heck, I even liked Lieberman a bit back then - he was my senator, a decent Attorney General, and I thought he had "moderate" and "maverick" appeal. Boy, was I wrong. I guess I can never run for elected office, based on that?

There are some valid reasons you can cite for not supporting Gore. He's my preferred candidate, but everyone has their flaws. This reason simply isn't valid.

[mondo joe]

49. Actually, the democratic party picked them both. Buy your rationale, WE are not

qualified to decide who should run.

[Clarkie1]

50. All Clark supporters do not share your view. I think Gore is terrific.

If Clark doesn't run, I will likely support him. (edit: assuming Gore runs)

Edwards would not be my first choice for VP candidate based on his mediocre performance in the role last time around.

[upi402]

54. NAFTA, & TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACT

They were very destructive and we are just now seeing some hope at getting to correcting them in a few years.

But the corporatist damage is done, if the currency/economic crash happens. And it will.

The film was great and his ideas are very helpful, even necessary. But he enabled this corporate takeover of government with his argumentation skills and political workings.

The Joe problem is the least worrisome to me.


my .02

[smoogatz]

55. What utter crap. Gore is immensely qualified.

Picking Lieberman was a strategic decision that looked perfectly sensible (if uninspired) at the time. Not allowed to run? Who the hell is going to stop him? Go Big Al!

Funny--it's starting to look like the right-wing is terrified that Gore will run. Which makes me very, very happy.

[Fridays Child]

61. I think you just nailed it. We're going to see a lot of threads like this.

I couldn't help piling on but we may be better off allowing this sort of trash to sink into obscurity.

[Bluebear]

57. 'He should not be given another chance to run.'

Are these the special "election topics" you were waiting for your 25 posts to accumulate to initiate? Oh that's right, I'm on ignore. :rofl:

[Bryn]

59. Al Gore is still Da Man

:kick:

[pink-o]

60. Donna Brazille ran a shitty campaign in 2000!!!

It wasn't that long ago that we can forget. Everyone was all atwitter about Clinon/Lewinsky, and they hammered Al to distance himself from Big Dawg--HUGE mistake!!!! So LIE-berman was chosen because he condemned Clinton on the Senate floor.

I knew immediately he was a bad choice, when he started with that "Freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion" bullshit. I'm Jewish, so I recognise my fanatics of my own ethnicity, and I was scared about the knee-jerk protection of Israel. It wasn't until the dust fell after SCOTUS subverted my democracy, and I saw how sneaky Joe was in keeping his senate seat that I realised exactly what a low-down slime he was.

But remember, there's lots of water under the bridge now. Al Gore is not the same as he was 7 years ago, he's ditched the DLC and come out as the great eviornmentalist and progressive he is. I'd vote for him now in a heartbeat!

[JNelson6563]

65. I think DU should provide crutches in the lobby

So these sorts of lame ass posts can get some support.

Julie

[H2O Man]

67. Ha!

Good response.

[LeftishBrit]

68. Gore would've been a really good president

Pity the majority of voters didn't see that at the time (oh, err, just a moment....let's change that ....) Pity that crooks like Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris interfered with the will of the majority.

I can't tell from here who's most likely to win, but he would certainly be a good influence on the world if he did win.

I expect that next time he'd choose a different running-mate.

[in_cog_ni_to]

69. That was the OLD Al Gore. Al Gore knows better now.

He probably kicks himself in the ass everyday for choosing Lieberman as his VP....in light of Lieberman showing his true colors....WARMONGER.