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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 06:40 PM
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Watching Lieberman on the MTP replay. Only one comment



in lieu of that:

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 06:42 PM
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1. Ha Ha
:hi:
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 06:42 PM
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2. Hee hee
:rofl:
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 06:43 PM
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3. CatWoman, I don't think he got the message.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 06:43 PM
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4. Joe is only out for Joe
and his "legacy", much the same as the resident in chief in the Whitehouse.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 06:44 PM
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5. Love IT!
That's hilarious.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 06:45 PM
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6. I am still mourning his win here in CT.
:cry:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 06:50 PM
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7. David Gregory, who is on the panel right now
said that the Repubs put Lieberman over the top, as they were nervous about Lamont's attitude of "get out of Iraq now".

Plus, the voters didn't think Lamont had enough experience.

That's not a "bad" thing. Hopefully, that will resonate country wide, and we will have no more flukes like Bush.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:09 PM
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8. This was the comment that got to me
"we can't lose the war on the battlefield, we can only lose it here at home."

Straight out of the Vietnam playbook.

He's clueless but the reality of Iraq will soon make him a joke in DC.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:39 PM
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11. Germany in WWI -- it was clear they were losing
So Ludendorff and Hindenberg started the meme that the army was winning on the battlefield but was being 'stabbed in the back at home.'

See, among many others on 'stabbed in the back legend:'

http://hoosierinva.blogspot.com/2006/07/stabbed-in-back.html

(Dated July 15 2006, the discussion refers to a Harpers' essay.)

....

Baker then explains the importance of this myth in Germany following its defeat in WWI. The myth was an important factor in the rise of the Nazi party and its seizure and maintenance of power over two decades in the German state.

Baker then points to how the myth served the purposes of right-wing politicians in the United States following the end of WWII. “Betrayal at Yalta” became a rallying cry for post-war conservatives. Even President Bush shamelessly denounced his own country for Yalta in an effort to pander to Eastern Europe countries for support of the war in Iraq. The Yalta betrayal myth does overlook the fact that agreement was an important factor in the stabilization of the world following WWII – something that failed to happen following WWI.

The stabbed-in-the-back myth became standard fare during the Cold War. China, Korea, Vietnam, domestic dissent and more all gave rise to variations of the same theme. Political careers rose or fell based upon how leaders approached (or used) this myth.

In mid-2006, will this myth have much traction. Maybe, maybe not. Having failed to do the critical political work immediately following the collapse of the previous regime and having failed to put the military manpower on the ground to protect the population from criminals, insurgents and assorted terrorists, the situation is slowly deteriorating towards civil war. The administration’s grand strategy for Iraq is to just muddle along and hope empty rhetoric will somehow win the war. In the meantime, Iran is flexing its muscles and situation in Lebanon and Gaze is spinning out of control with the real possibility of an all out regional war. It may be only a matter of time before someone will point back to the period and ask, “Who lost ______?” (You fill in the blank.)

The problem is the public has been kept at arms-length from the war in Iraq. The leadership of the nation asks nothing in the way of sacrifice. Quite the contrary, the administration pushes through tax cuts in a time of war and urges the public to go shopping. If the public feels no connection with what is going on with its troops then the myth will hold little resonance....

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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 08:50 AM
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13. thanks for that article...
of course they are setting it up to blame Democrats and the media for the failure in Iraq but the reality is that W is the Commander and Chief and has been free to send as many troups as he wants to Iraq.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:13 PM
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9. joe and the media..
corporate fuck buddies.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:15 PM
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10. Amen!
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:13 PM
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12. Wonder how many years one would get...
If they SUPERGLUED the rim of his coffee cup before handing it to him? :evilgrin:
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