Bush will call for a Draft.....

[Postman]

The Generals will say they need more troops. There aren't anymore to send.

Bush will call for a Draft. And if the Democratic majority in Congress refuse, he will blame the failure in Iraq on the Democrats.

If the Democratic majority votes to re-instate the Draft, they will be ushered out of office in 2008 as fast as they went in in 2006.

The pickle that this gov't is in regarding Iraq is that the war in Iraq has lost all support from the public but the policy wonks see it as a "must win" for the sake of US control of the Middle East, "protecting" Israel, controlling the oil, etc., etc..

I guess they could always say we need the troops for Afghanistan to fight the real "war on terror" and do a switcheroo and send them to Iraq....

The problem again is this- the US cannot afford to lose in Iraq, yet they are loosing and support for the war is gone.

I guess that's the price they pay for lying about it to start with. It's hard to regain support for a war that was based on lies and then those lies get exposed while still trying to "win" an occupation.

How do you put the genie back in the bottle? You can't.

[upi402]

1. yellow elephants and chickenhawks first! n/t

[Cobalt-60]

5. a fine idea

Any able bodied person who has been recorded supporting the war should receive a special initiation to join it.
That should pump up the formations.

[upi402]

13. Women too. Mann Coulter would look hot in khaki

[goforit]

2. Well, McCain and Lieberman have already been calling for the draft.

[Postman]

4. both in the minority (i.e. republicans)

The Dems control Congress in January.

Watch.

[MichiganVote]

3. Doubtful, very doubtful

[madokie]

6. The only logical out is to come home first

our sons and daughters presence alone is making it worst and nothing can be done to undo the destruction and carnage at the hands of American Soldiers while being lead by less than you would want as a world leader, people.

[Postman]

11. I agree, but...

Bush is still Commander-In-Chief.

His legacy is Iraq. He's not going down without taking others with him.

I hope you are right but I fear he will try to make up for Rumsfelds disastrous management of Iraq by trying to save his failure.

I'm wondering how much influence Bush 41's retreads will have on him. Particularly James Baker and his commission and Robert Gates the new SecDef.

[rocktivity]

7. BUSH is the one who can't afford to lose in Iraq

We survived "not winning" in Vietnam, and Korea was pretty much a draw, too. We did it before, so we can do it again. And if Bush has anything he wants to say, we can point out that we had no business being there in the first place--and then start issuing some subpoenas.

:headbang:
rocknation

[Postman]

12. I hope you're right...

but Iraq is not Vietnam. Don't forget Israel's influence in making policy.

Remember Bush mentioning the oil? He didn't want it to fall into the hands of the terrorists. (yeah, right)

[butterfly77]

8. This is what I was thinking all through the campaign...

the Generals are saying it in so many words,but now they will begin saying it straight out...

[eleny]

9. He won't have to wait for Dems to balk

Wingnut parents will march on the White House with tar, feathers and a rail. :rofl:

[AntiFascist]

10. That would get him out of office sooner than anything we could do n/t

[Postman]

15. How would it get HIM out of office?

please explain.

[AntiFascist]

26. Young people, especially, will be motivated more than ever....

to push their representatives for intense investigations. A lot of the anger directed at Nixon was due, in large part, to Republican support for the Vietnam war.

[TheFarseer]

14. I thought they had 300,000 Iraqi troops

trained and ready to go. What the hell happened to that?

[USA_1]

16. they do...

... but Bush won't leave as long as there are oil profits to be made

[Postman]

18. They're compromised....

I've read or heard reports that say...

Iraqi's don't identify themselves as Iraqi's per se. Their order of loyalty is something like...family, tribe, religion, ethnicity.... remember Iraq was a creation of the British (I think).. it really wasn't a "country" per se until the Brits made it one.

So unit cohesiveness is somewhat suspect. Then there is the matter of infiltration by warring factions. Loyalty becomes an issue.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

22. Farseer is right!

Iraq has a military, we freed them from Saddam.

Let’s call it a WIN and get out.

[Sagan]

17. If so, this is what the Dems do...

First of all, talk loudly about how * now expect the Democratic Congress to fix the mess the Republicans made. Secondly, instruct Chimpy that he has to corral ALL the Repug reps and Senators to vote for a draft and if they do, then the Dems would make up the other 28-30 votes, for the good of the country.

If they don't, then no deal.

[BrotherBuzz]

19. It's to damn late for a draft.

Under the best of conditions, new troops wouldn't be be deployable for over a year (selective service start-up time, training, etc). The military needed fresh troops yesterday, and the bush* administration knew this but choose to ignore the pending disaster for political considerations. This is Bushco's fault - 100%. Chickenhawks suck!

[Postman]

21. Good point...

is the answer to get other Arabs and Persians to occupy Iraq?

[BrotherBuzz]

25. That is something that should have been considered years ago.

All I know is at this juncture, the United States is the ONE country that needs to get the hell out of the region. Oh, and the Pottery barn rule still applies.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

20. Re: genie back in the bottle

I always thought if we won some power in Washington,our democratic leaders could throw Bush and Cheney to the wolves. I was hoping Pelosi would call for the impeachment and imprisonment of the criminals we have in office.

America could explain to the world that our elections have been tampered with for years. Humbly explain that even world super powers could be taken down by unscrupulous dictators. We could truthfully explain that our media was high jacked, and most Americans were under the spell of propaganda news.

Then promise PNAC is not part of our agenda.

I think the world would sympathize for us.

[Postman]

23. Wishful thinking...

I like it but it won't work.

Iraq was never about "democracy" it was/is about the oil.

I guess as long as oil rules economies, those in D.C. will want to control the oil.

[Spangle]

24. Won't work, blaming the Dems that way.

The public has already spoken that they do not like the war in Iraq.
They want the kids to come home.
They are tired of seeing the kids come home in body bags.
Bush calls for a Draft... Draft for what?
Americans want the kids to come home NOW.

That isn' the Demo's problem. The problem is HOW to get the kids home as quickly as possible. Not easy. And not going to be as quick as everyone wants.

Democrats are going to have to tell JR that he needs to come up with a wrap up plan for over there. IT's up to his advisors to plan it, etc.

[WinkyDink]

27. Dems won't fall for that. Not to worry.

[ComerPerro]

28. Bush lacks the courage to call for a draft. He will force Dems into doing it

he can't even ask his billionare base to chip in their fair share to fund this war, let alone ask people to send their kids...

[Bucky]

29. Bush has built a whole career on promising people benefits with no costs & no responsibility.

I doubt he'd change now now that he's under pressure. He never asks for sacrifice, probably because he's never had to sacrifice to ensure deferred benefits in his own life.

[upi402]

31. Uses his own life as proof

and if he had hallucinated unicorns...

[Chomp]

30. Won't happen.

People need to realise that there is only 1 show in town now: cut and run. That's it. The only choice.

There will be no significant boosting of troop numbers between now and then.