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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:13 PM
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Dowd on MTP: "and Baker is the deprogrammer."
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MR. RUSSERT: Maureen Dowd, here’s the cover of Newsweek magazine. “Father Knows Best.” With Bush 41, Bush 43, and it’s subtitled “With Congress Lost, Iraq in Chaos, Bush Calls In His Dad’s Team. Can James, James Baker and Company Save the Son’s Presidency?” Very similar to a column you wrote on Thursday. You think there’s truth to that?

MS. DOWD: Well, I think the best way for me to describe it is that, remember when parents would have their teenagers kidnapped by a Moony cult, and they would try and, and get him back, and deprogram him? That’s what’s—the, the 41 group is doing. They’re trying to get W back away from the cult of the neocons, as they see it, and reprogram him in the family tradition of internationalism, diplomacy, nuance. And Baker’s the deprogrammer.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15637887/page/5/

Hmmm, says alot about Smirky's fitness, doesn't it???

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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:16 PM
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1. I think Dowd hit the nail on the head
41 is trying to save 43 ass the only way he knows how.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:20 PM
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2. in saving 43's ass he saves 41's and that is where the true true is
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Johnyawl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:21 PM
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3. He also saves Jeb's chances for the Presidency

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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:24 PM
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5. How come the people analyzing potential GOP candidates... mention not a word about Jeb Bush?
Edited on Sun Nov-12-06 07:25 PM by Radio_Lady
It's John McCain, mostly -- but several others too.

Not Jeb!
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:28 PM
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8. Methinks the country is worn out on Bushies
Jeb would be toasted
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:38 PM
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13. This is by design...per order of the Bushies...
I'll never forget the Larry King Live interview with three generations of Bushies. The
interview took place during the 04 Republican National Convention. Larry asked the panel
about Jeb running for pResident, and he stopped himself and said, "Oh that's right. You
don't want people to accuse the Bushes of having a dynasty in America."

Larry King is a close, personal friend of the Bush family. He emceed Bush Sr's 80th
birthday bash in Texas. Larry gave away the entire reason that Jeb isn't touted.
The Bushes are waiting for the right moment to thrust Jeb on our nation. The time
wasn't right during 04, when people could have thought "dynasty" and the time reallllly
isn't right now, when the country has soured on Junior.

I believe that Jeb is their candidate for 08. They'll release the hounds when they
feel the time is right.
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Johnyawl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:49 PM
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14. I don't think it'll be '08


That's too dynastic. I think their plan has always assumed the Dems winning in '08, and then they'll run Jeb in '12 to "save America". That's why they need this mess straightened out, to salvage the 'Bush' trademark.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:24 PM
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4. ... and saves the Carlyle Group's ass ...
... that's what it all comes back down to ... protect the international business dealings, keep the back room power brokers pacified, and continue to collect the MOOLAH.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:27 PM
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6. The true agenda.
Absolutely nothing takes priority over profit.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:34 PM
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10. as the price of gas shows us
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:27 PM
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7. OMG
They actually said that on TV?

I'm lovin' it!!

:bounce:

Perfect description, btw
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:31 PM
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9. I agree with this
I think Baker even though I hate his partisan cheating ass, is needed for exactly this job, dubya won't listen to anyone else, we need some common sense injected into the chimps brain since we are stuck with him for 2 more years.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:35 PM
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11. Except they created the mess
In so many ways. It's difficult for me to see how they're going to get us out of it, except to have the Saudi's and UAE spread money all over Iraq.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:35 PM
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12. same coin, just different sides
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Chomp Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:57 PM
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15. Dowd's a smart cookie
and I think she's hit the nail on the head with this analysis.

I also happen to think that Chimpy is so broken that he is actually ready to be deprogrammed.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 08:00 PM
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16. Maureen Dowd with Tim Russert: Tell it, sister.




November 12, 2006


MR. RUSSERT: Maureen Dowd, here’s the cover of Newsweek magazine. “Father Knows Best.” With Bush 41, Bush 43, and it’s subtitled “With Congress Lost, Iraq in Chaos, Bush Calls In His Dad’s Team. Can James, James Baker and Company Save the Son’s Presidency?” Very similar to a column you wrote on Thursday. You think there’s truth to that?

MS. DOWD: Well, I think the best way for me to describe it is that, remember when parents would have their teenagers kidnapped by a Moony cult, and they would try and, and get him back, and deprogram him? That’s what’s—the, the 41 group is doing. They’re trying to get W back away from the cult of the neocons, as they see it, and reprogram him in the family tradition of internationalism, diplomacy, nuance. And Baker’s the deprogrammer.

MR. RUSSERT: You say this: James “‘Baker’s no fool,’ a Bush 41 official said. ‘He wasn’t going to go out there with a plan for Iraq and have Rummy shoot it down. He wanted a receptive audience. Everyone had to be on the same page before the plan is unveiled.’” That James Baker was involved in the dismissal of Donald Rumsfeld?

MS. DOWD: Well, I think—you know, I went to Texas A&M right after W’s presidency started, and the 41 group was already really worried about the belligerent attitude, the linear approach to foreign affairs. Black and white, having to inflate villains, and demote diplomacy. And, and they were worried about them blowing up the world, getting rid of international agreements, and that was before 9/11 and Iraq. So they have, you know, thought this team was on the wrong course, making things up as they go along, for a long time.

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MR. RUSSERT: Maureen Dowd, we’re hearing a lot about bipartisanship. The president saying, you know, he came to Washington, he was a uniter, not a divider. This has been a very polarizing administration, playing to the Republican base. Is the Bush White House capable of now pivoting and being truly bipartisan, working with the congressional leadership, and are the Democrats in a receptive mood? Or is it time for payback?

MS. DOWD: Well, I think that Bush is going to try to, at first, go back to his persona that he had in the Texas legislature of someone who could work with the other side. But I think it’s going to be very tough for him because he and Rummy and Cheney have basically had this “Who’s your daddy?” attitude to the world and the Congress, and they’re used to the executive branch getting more and more and more power. And now they have Nancy Pelosi saying to them, “Who’s your mommy?”

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15637887/
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 08:03 PM
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17. Bush the Frat Boy has no appreciation for nuance
Bush the Preppy and some of the neocons do. But Bush the Frat Boy thinks the world is a B-Western.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 08:06 PM
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18. I hope when I'm 60 and I've screwed up everything, my old man will bail me out too
I continue to be surprised that the Republican party could nominate such an empty suited knucklehead for president. I mean, I'm not gonna agree with most thing any Republican president does. But they're not a party of morons. Can anyone here imagine a Dick Lugar, a Pete Dominici, a whathisface Pataki would have fucked up the country on issue after issue after issue as badly as Junior has?

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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 08:21 PM
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19. they're playing Beethoven's Ninth, and forcing him to watch Fox News
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