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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 12:40 AM
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Strange things happening in space..
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 12:45 AM
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1. Interesting
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 12:46 AM
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2. Interesting. Thanks for the links. n/t
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Beacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 12:47 AM
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3. My God! It's Full of Stars!!
Sorry, couldn't resist
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 12:49 AM
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4. hmmm
Are you an astronomer? I never would have come across this. Unique info there.
I got to see Stephen Hawking speak and I read his book, but aside from the Asimov books I am lost in space.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 12:49 AM
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5. The Universe turning on its head
Dems defeat Repubs by running on a national defense strategy? Madness!
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dubeskin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 12:53 AM
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6. I know
It's as if *gasp* the Apocalypse is coming!!! Everyone run for your anti-nuke bunker!
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:02 AM
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8. My bunker's in the shop. Can I borrow yours?
I'll give it back as soon as I'm done using it...
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dubeskin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:05 AM
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10. Sure. You know, you ought to keep
Some extra ones around like I do. They ALWAYS come in handy.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:09 AM
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11. Ah, I rent, and don't have a lot of room
I've been eyeballing those stackable bunkers they have now, though. They nest inside of each other for easy storage. And they come in fun colors as well!
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dubeskin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:13 AM
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13. Sounds nice and roomy, but pretty expensive
I've never used mine yet, so I don't know how it is. But I know I got a wonderful deal on it because I got it at Walmart.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:27 AM
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20. You can buy them in singles at Target
Wal-Mart only has the 4-packs, and I don't have a truck, so the singles are easier for me.
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dubeskin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:28 AM
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21. I see
But as I said, 4 for a lower price than one, you really can't beat that. And why would you want to shop at such a liberal store as Target? Psshh...
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:45 AM
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30. I go upscale with a French accent... Tar-jay, don't you know...
Besides, a four-pack of stackable doomsday bunkers? That's just ridiculous!
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dubeskin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:51 AM
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33. I buy 4 so that in situations like this, I can give one to a friend
So apparently you don't want one. Your loss when God comes down and kills all the non-believers and people not protected!
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:55 AM
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34. Can't hold it in any longer.... ROTFLMAO! n/t
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dubeskin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:02 AM
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35. What are you laughing at?
Edited on Mon Nov-13-06 02:34 AM by dubeskin
Is the fact that I search for a good deal funny to you? At Costco you can get 8 for the price of one!!! But then again, those are one-person bunkers. At Walmart, you can get 4 for the price of 1, and they are family sized!!! So Walmart is the better deal, yet again. Also, Walmart comes with the cute little furnishings that the other stores don't have. That would be awful to get lonely in your one person bunker. That's why I hear that you can buy infaltable people :evilgrin:

:sarcasm::)
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:23 AM
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40. The Target ones come with the inflatable people
And an inflatable dog, as well. Even inflatable furniture. I thought the inflatable toilet was a bit much, though.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 12:57 AM
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7. I'm an old school astronomer
and we read many decades ago the moon was dead, dead, dead. Interesting, there might still be life in the old man of the moon, after all.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:15 AM
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15. Alot of things about astronomy taught years ago
are being disproven as technology improves.
Like comets are not"dirty snowballs".They are rocky things ..
http://www.holoscience.com/news/comet_borrelly.html
http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/p0000007.htm

And the sun is electrical..
http://www.electric-cosmos.org/sun.htm

To me these theories make more sense than the older widely held beliefs..do.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:26 AM
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19. What a bunch of crap.
Anyone who disputes that stars are powered by nuclear fusion is a nut.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:44 AM
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29. The moon landings were faked!
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:04 AM
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37. ROFLMAO! So THAT'S the source of the Fox special... n/t
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:31 AM
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44. No the moon ladings are real
My fathers balls are on the moon.
He made specific weight, perfectly round, wood balls of precise diameters, And they were tossed out of the moon capsule to determine the depth of the moon dust, because back in days of the first moon landing they had no idea what the gravity would be like or how deep the dust would be. They used the balls my father made to test it. So, my fathers balls were on the moon first..LOL.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:40 AM
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48. So you think he's a nut?
Edited on Mon Nov-13-06 02:42 AM by undergroundpanther
That a scientific assessment made without proof if I ever saw it.
Umm did you READ his idea or just skim it because your mind is already closed?
http://www.the-electric-universe.info/
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:38 AM
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25. Understood, yet the old astronomers still got it right
and they got it right without the modern gadgets to help them. Amazing what was going through Kepler's head hundreds of years ago - P squared equals R cubed!, or even Einstein's mind at the beginning of the last century when he predicted light bending from a star eclipse, proving light has mass (I may be sketchy on the Einstein example, but then again, I studies the subject decades ago ;)).
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:47 AM
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32. They are right on some things
But you cannot cling to their ideas as if they are going to be always eternal truths.
Because science requires one to look beyond the proven and expand it and in finding more things get updated..and sometimes cherished beliefs have to be seen as products of the best science of a past era. And until they are dis-proven, they stand and are expanded upon and new things added. Science cannot exist if minds are closed to new ideas and observations made by others.Sciences discovery process, innovative capacity and thinking process never ends ,until you stop seeking answers and shut off possibilities because they turn things you believe upside down.Galileo turned the assumed beliefs upside down too.It happens. and to me orthodoxy has one purpose in science to make people coming forth with new theories and observations sharper in how they think.Other than that orthodoxy is deadly to science if it gets too much control and falls in love with preferred yet old ideas too much.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:34 AM
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45. Just reported this post to the Science form.
Prepare to get 0wn3d. :evilgrin:
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 03:11 AM
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49. React much?
Edited on Mon Nov-13-06 03:12 AM by undergroundpanther
I never made claims about truth here I just that *I* thought they are onto something worth looking deeper into. I dunno if it explains everything but it is damn convincing to ME..And the stuff about the moon volcano that was in the news I thought it was interesting.. Ummm as for owned I don't think so, I think science has become"Owned"too much.Noaa isn't even permitted to let out weather reports until Bush-co says so, Nasa is tight lipped, why? Too many scientists are bound to grant money, Too scared to step out of self created cherished ways of looking at things to the point everything is mysterious if it does not fit in some compartment in some past hero's 'working model' of how shit's supposed to work. Um if dawkins says it .. Seems it is gospel truth to you, is he your messiah?.. Oh, my science!!(south park reference)
:sarcasm:
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:05 AM
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9. I just watched a DVD today of a Mr. Show sketch. The govt was
going to blow up the moon and everyone was excited about it.

Think Kim is doing his atomic testing on old Luna?
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:09 AM
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12. Cool... we'd be a ringed planet!
Imagine the romance...
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:15 AM
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14. Ah, yes, earthrings. nt
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:18 AM
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16. Imagine the huge chunks of Moon that would rain down on us for millennia
Imagine the tidal waves
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:25 AM
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17. it would suck
If we had no moon our planet would die.
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn4786
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:41 AM
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28. I think they are just talking about the initial creation of single-celled creatures
We're pretty mature now, as a developed ecosystem, so'd we be okay.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:20 AM
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39. Well what would happen if the tides stopped...
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:27 AM
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43. Hmmmm....
Yes, that would dispupt things, wouldn't it?

Al Gore would have a fit!
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:34 AM
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46. Yeah
He would especially if the two year old we have as a president had a temper-tantrum and nuked the friggin moon.THAN, could we impeach that psychopathic shit? And amputate the right wing, and remove the shroud of secrecy off the pentagon? And get some OVERSIGHT on what these crazy assholes are doing with OUR tax money,pleeeze!
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:25 AM
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18. Foolish Democrat, we have the anti-ballistic-missile shield!
We are invicible!

God himself with catch the chunks of lunar rock himself!

On the serious side, I doubt anything of consequence would hit us. The big chunks would not have their orbital velocity changed enough to hit us, and the small stuff would burn up in the atmosphere. Remember, the Moon's velocity is always parallel to the Earth's surface, so most of it would just wind up in an elliptical orbit anyway.

At least, I think that's how it would work. Besides, the Moon's gravity may be enough to suck most of it back into a spherical shape.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:33 AM
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23. BWHAHAAA! Foolish HUMAN!!! Neither political parties nor a pantheon of gods
will save you from THEM!!!



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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:35 AM
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24. Depends...
we got cosmic dust, wind, electrical plasmas, explosions, implosions, all sorts and sizes of comets,meteors and other objects flinging from who knows where,and bowshocks..Space at least for life to be on Earth is a carefully balanced chaos.. Chaos that could tip not in our favor very easy.

http://www.discover.com/issues/sep-94/features/gravitysrim419/
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:31 AM
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22. And Fox would surely blame Bill Clinton for it.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:39 AM
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26. No,
Clinton's penis caused it. Along with Colbert's huge balls, the combined size and weight of these two objects was tilting us off axis which made our orbit spin out of control, because they are both live on the northern hemisphere and there are no huge body parts in other parts of the world to counterbalance them... LOL.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:46 AM
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31. Yeah, must be all that gravitas! LMAO n/t
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:37 AM
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47. Bwahahaha...
:spray:
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:41 AM
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27. Hi undergroundpanther!
Long time no see... where have you been? I always recognize you by Cat with beautiful butterfly wing. :hi: Weird stuff is going on at outer space for a while now and it's interesting that, NASA is heading down to south pole this month with huge infer-red telescope. They are looking for something that is heading straight for our solar system... This info is being kept very quite.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:14 AM
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38. Hi
And methinks it could be anything..A comet, a blast from the galactic core,problems with the sun, cosmic dust storms, or maybe the ozone hole gives slightly better veiwing for whatever they seek to see..maybe it's about microbes..
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mystery_monday_041122.html
or those glowing clouds?
http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/A/AIM.html

We as a planet rotate the sun, but remember our galaxy is spinning us around something else , and our galaxy is also moving through space,cirling in it's own movements and that rotates or moves as well and when we enter different parts of space the 'space weather' becomes different it seems and the solar system and galaxy reacts to it.. The fact all the planets are having anomolies,and there are objects that defy explanation,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/5367540.stm

kinda makes it an interesting time..
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mystery_monday_041122.html
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:04 AM
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36. Project A119 cover?
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:25 AM
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41. These warmongers
are psychopaths.. They are like hyper aggressive stupid self absorbed two year old bullies running around stabbing everything with knives ...except they are in adult bodies with too much money, too much power , too much secrecy,holding nukes. The military culture of destroy it if you cannot dominate it, that"MAD" game they play has GOT to stop and these "boys" need to grow up.And take their sick missiles and shove them up their warped ass.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:26 AM
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42. I feel better knowing that Kirk and Spock are out there
to protect us
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 09:05 AM
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