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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 05:28 AM
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daddybush isn't just now stepping in to help w, he's ALWAYS been there
In my opinion anyway, daddybush and his pals have been fully in charge of jr's tenure from day one, I've never bought the notion that w is actually the president and actually running the show, he's too stupid, the adult monsters are really in charge, and always have been going back to 1980.

Pretty embarrassing spectacle anyway, a 60 year old president of the U.S. having to have his daddy the former president step in to fix the damage jr. wrought.

But I've always felt it was a cheap hoax, jr. has really never had any real power or authority above daddy and his monster cabinet. It's the same old vampires, the bush crime family, same old bush foreign policy and same old nazi overtones.

jr. is now exposed as the useless figurehead he's always been.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 05:36 AM
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1. I think you are half right
I think for the most part Daddy friends were running thing BEHIND the idiot's back. Only now is the idiot bring them forward as the New face of 43 admin.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 05:39 AM
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2. Back to Nixon
Nixon was a protege of Preston Bush, he ran Nixon's campaign in 1960. Rummy and Cheney were in Ford's administration. They've run a big chunk of Republican politics for a long time. Perhaps Rummy & Cheney got sucked away by the neocons, I don't know for sure. But there's no doubt Poppy's approach to foreign policy is destructive, just not as destructive as Jr's.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 05:42 AM
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3. Poor Bush, never could get anything right...always fuckin it up...no matter whot
He has become an International Joke...from the Antartic to the highest mountain...peeeps are laughing their asses off while they recall his boo boo's
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 06:25 AM
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7. the dumb ass is spring loaded in the Fuck-Up position...
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Sad4world Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 05:46 AM
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4. Herbert Walker
has been the front man for the New World Order(Federal Reserve, Bildeburg,Trilateral et al) since the 60's.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 06:31 AM
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8. What is the new world order?
Seriously, I have no idea what people mean when they refer to a new world order.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 06:57 AM
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12. New World Order.
Edited on Mon Nov-13-06 07:25 AM by malaise
The radical right wing political economics of the 1980s, characterized by Reaganomics and Thatcherism, in combination with the collapse of Stalinist regimes in Eastern Europe, and the ineffectiveness of the U.N., have virtually ushered in a new world order.
Under this 'new world order', neo-liberalism and globalization became the dominant paradigm. The political thinking of the New Right represents the rationale for the rejection of state-led provision and the dominance of transnational corporations.


The idea was to force governments to 'structurally adjust' by devaluing currencies, divesting state owned enterprises and deregulating their economies. The Group of seven used the IMF and World Bank to force their wishes on the rest of the planet. Political democracy and trade union rights became less important than the rights of corporations.

Thatcher et al believed in the economics of Hayek and Friedman and rejected Keynsian ideas re the role of the state.

Within 20 years, the gaps between rich and poor have led the likes of Jeffrey Sachs (once a neo-liberal guru) to abandon this bankrupt theory and describe Hayek's 'Road to Serfdom' as rubbish. NOLA's destruction, the destruction of native industries in developing countries as well as the mass migration of people from the South to the North are all the evidence you need to throw this theory into the bathtub with Grover Norquist et al.

Of course the neo-cons loved this and people like Wolfowitz have taken over the world banks to scout for profitable state owned enterprises like oil, water, electricity, etc.

Castro was unto them early and Latin American governments, led by Argentina and then Chavez have rejected this crap for some time. Others are catching on.

Sp.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 06:59 AM
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13. Thanks for taking
the time to provide such a comprehensive answer.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 07:24 AM
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15. No problem n/t
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Sad4world Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:46 PM
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22. Thanks and well put
There is a lot to it but in a short synopsis your reply is well done.
I was unable to reply until now.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:50 PM
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23. It's Neo-Liberal "End of History" and "End of Ideology" BS.
Inspired by Francis Fukuyama's book The End of History and the Last Man{/i].
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Sad4world Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:56 PM
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24. Education is a good thing
All of this is hard to believe but it has been happening for a long time.

There is a shadow world government. I first became aware of this in a book by Taylor Caldwell called "The Captains and the Kings" in the early 70's.

Do a google search for the New World Order and you will be amazed.

It's all about money and control. A sad commentary on mankind.

Sorry about the delayed response.

malaise did a nice brief job in my absence.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 05:47 AM
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5. understandable why he much prefers the company of Bill Clinton
Clinton is the son Bush Sr never had
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 06:25 AM
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6. it is so messed up that it will take jeb years to fix it up to be able to invade Iran
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 06:40 AM
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9. Bingo n/t
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 06:47 AM
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10. Iraq is just another drunk driving ticket for Mad Junior!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:15 AM
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16. Jr is living in a fog, a stupor, a semi coma, a blur.....The Iraqi war is
reduced to a ticket?? Well, almost....Bush thinks all can be spun, fixed, rehashed, reversed.....to his liking...

The Dems thinks otherwise BUT guess who got the HOUSE and a new Broom?
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:23 AM
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18. Let the asskicking begin!
Edited on Mon Nov-13-06 11:25 AM by Hubert Flottz
Nobody has ever made bush mind his manners in his life...but I think Nancy will!

Edit...I hope she wears a number 15 boot when dhe does it!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:35 AM
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21. I hope she can remove her foot once the boot has been IMPLANTED in his ASS
Nose Picking in Public is NOT ALLOWED
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 06:56 AM
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11. I think you're half-wrong...
Poppy and Babs have always encouraged George prove that he's a worthless idiot; so Poppy can prove to Babs that he's the idiot to save him.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 07:03 AM
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14. And considering the son he has to step in for....
it's steady work.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:16 AM
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17. Poppy has always been in the Middle of every evil
deed and his father before him.
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:25 AM
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19. Exactly
Poppy has been doing everything for Junior, cleaning up all of his messes his entire life. It has never been any different. Poppy really is a 3 term president that got around the pesky constitutional requirements.
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Squeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:33 AM
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20. Dunno
but I don't think so. I think Cheney has called most of the shots in Junior's crappy administration, and what's going on now is Poppy seizing the reins.

Remember all that guff about how Dumbya listens to a higher father? That wasn't just dog whistle rhetoric for the fundies, that was also his assumption of independence from the soi-disant grownups who were supposed to keep him from going off the rails.
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