WHY exactly did sr. give us jr. for a president?

[Philosoraptor]

This question has haunted me from the very first day I realized bush jr. was going to be our next president, why?

Is jr. our president simply because daddy wanted him to be, and daddy was owed a big favor by his buddies? Is it something as stupid as that? Why the stupid son? Why the least qualified man ever for the job? Why the son who was brain damaged from years of hedonism and coke and booze and failure? Why this jerk, of all people?

How the hell did this happen? Now look at the idiot having his ass pulled out of the fire by his ancient daddy the original bush fuck up. Can't America see these guys are inbred vampire royalty, these bush's?

I just don't understand the real reasoning behind the whole sordid, sinister story. So I drift into theory. I can't wait to see how history looks back on the prescott, g.h.w., and g.w. bush years, and their terrible, inhuman legacy.

I have my theories, because the truth about these monsters is very carefully hidden.

[ShortnFiery]

1. No it was KKKarl who gave us Junior.

There's no love lost between George H.W. Bush and KKKarl Rove.
They don't call him "Turd Blossom" for nothing. :(

Now Poppy and his boys are mopping up after Junior, once again, indiscriminately applied his reverse Midas Touch. :shrug:

[Hubert Flottz]

2. A Rusty Load!

He was drunk that night and his aim was off a little!

Edit...So the part with the dna thingys with the brain in it, went on the washcloth!

[Art_from_Ark]

3. One of the first things Jr. did in January 2001

was prevent the release of the Reagan papers, which would include papers from his father's time as Vice President, in defiance of the law mandating their release.

That should tell you something.

[Hubert Flottz]

4. "That should tell you something"

That right off the bat George Bush thought himself to be above the law. And the federal courts appeased an outlaw for a second time.

[Art_from_Ark]

13. And that was just after he had carted off his own governor's papers

to his father's library in the dead of night, taking advantage of a law that he himself had pressured the Texas legislature into passing in 1997.

http://foi.missouri.edu/bushinfopolicies/guberrecs.html

[Philosoraptor]

5. Oh yes, thanks for the reminder

jr. himself is way too stupid to have arranged that, but history will note it, and every other criminal act.

[SouthernBelle82]

16. And also don't forget

when John Roberts was nominated the democrats wanted to see some of those papers from his time as a lawyer for Reagan. I betcha some of those Poppy papers were there too and that is why they were so protective. Do you think the Democrats could get them now?

[sam sarrha]

6. it is all part of the Fascist New World Order 4th Reich plan for world domination

maybe the familly is still connected with ODESSA

[NOLADEM]

7. The Chimp's candidacy is a Rove inspired Bush JR rebellion

The Chimp always has been the black sheep...Neal and Jeb had the brains.

Rove saw in the Chimp an opportunity to get his way, so he began to cultivate Bush as a candidate, first as Governor of Texas. The reason it wasn't another of the Bush sons is easy. George Bush was the most electable at the time. Jeb had a daughter on the run from a Rehab center after multiple cocaine arrests and his wife was just arrested for failing to report purchases she made on an overseas trip. Neal likes Thai boys and girls apparently (as well as S&L's), so he is out.

The chimp was all who was left, and was perfect in a way. Intellectually incurious, so stupid it provided plausible deniability, likable to many, a sociopath, good name recognition, governor of a huge state, a warmonger, and someone who wanted to show up Daddy somehow - and the neo-cons behind him had just the way he could show Daddy he was a man.

Rove then acted in concert with Cheney and the Neo-Cons to get Bush JR elected. Bush Sr. was NOT happy about Cheney being veep. Remember Cheney was only in charge of finding the Veep, then selected himself.

Pappy is a Paleo-Con, and opposes Neo-cons in philosophy to the core. Paleo-cons view neo-cons(correctly) as stupid, naive, inexperienced Johnny-come-lately's.

JR went along with this because he wanted to show Daddy he was finally a man, and that he could go into Iraq and get Saddam even though his Daddy couldn't. The war was in part an attempt of a pathetic little boy to finally impress his father after years of searing disappointments. Sadly for ALL, he failed yet again, and Daddy is ONLY NOW coming to the rescue.

Daddy's foot in the door was the Baker Commish and Bolten becoming Chief of Staff. Before that, the Neo-Cons kept daddy out. The only person who could be considered an ally of Bush I, Colin Powell, was tossed overboard for being too reasonable and moderate for the crazies. Now Gates, Bolten and Baker are all aboard, and I predict another Paleo-Con to come @ the UN when Bolton is tossed over the side.

There are widespread rumors and stories about Bush Sr. and his cabal being royally pissed off at the current state of affairs. They are likely true in my opinion.

Say what you will about Sr, but he is a smart realist, agree or disagree with his goals. Yes, he is a corporate whore, a criminal, a mobster, but he is also a pragmatist and a successful person, neither of which can be said about the Chimp.

In short, no, Bush Sr. has not been in charge all along. His fingerprints simply aren't there. Now they are, with Gates and Baker.

[Philosoraptor]

10. good points

this helps me sort it all out in my overloaded bush fatigued head.

[Freedom_from_Chains]

11. I think your analysis is dead on

Dad rejected the neo-cons and paid for it with the election.

"The war was in part an attempt of a pathetic little boy to finally impress his father after years of searing disappointments"

Actually I think is was more to impress mommy and humiliate daddy in front of her.

[SouthernBelle82]

17. Wow you haven't been paying attention have you?

Ask yourself this question: why is it that every member of Bush's cabinet has some sort of tie to Senior? Is it because they like Bush? Hell no. Junior is nothing more than a frat boy former cheerleader who was also a part of the Carlyle Group, another connection to Poppy. Poppy's finger prints are all over the place. Notice on the Supreme Court all of Poppy's friends helped Junior. You really should read "The House of Bush, the House of Saud" and Greg Palast's book "Armed MadHouse."

[SouthernBelle82]

18. Something else to take notice of

that I just remembered from Michael Moore's film is that Poppy is the only president a live today who takes advantage of the CIA briefings. Why? Why does he need them? Who does Poppy's intrest's share with? The Saudi's. So the Saudi's control Poppy who controls Junior. Why else is all of his people around Junior? To make sure Junior doesn't fuck things up and they get things done. Why else was it Cheney hiding in the presidential bunker and not Junior on 9/11?

[VeggieTart]

20. There's another son, Marvin, who's very shadowy

Who knows about him. And they certainly would never run the surviving daughter, Doro, even assuming she wanted to get into politics.

I hope Hillary doesn't run in '08. We desperately need fresh blood in the White House in 2008.

[formercia]

21. Doro is married to a Koch

as in CNP Koch.Good money connection, she's golden...

[GeorgeGist]

8. The idiot doesn't...

fall far from the trees that created him.

[dbt]

9. Junior is Poppy's Revenge.

Poppy and Bar could not abide the thought of being turned out of "their" White House by "those people." Poppy had a Hitler Bunker moment in the final days of the '92 campaign when it became apparent that he was going down the old porcelain convenience. It was then that he vowed Scorched Earth against the Fatherland, um, I mean the USA (yeah, that's it, the USA). Since he was being denied his second term--the one in which he planned to loot the Treasury and get as much wealth as possible into as few hands as possible--he decided to steal himself a second term.

Junior was chosen because he's too lazy to think for himself. Obviously, he can easily be manipulated (mind control? drugs?) into doing whatever his handlers want, but he does have this annoying little tendency to fuck up everything he gets his hands on.

So Poppy waited until the last possible minute, until his cronies had sucked up every last dollar they could get their tentacles on, to yank Junior's chain. He was counting on two more years, but the Creature jumped its traces and the villagers were at the gates with torches and pitchforks.

But it's all good for the BFEE. They've got a hundred thousand acres in Paraguay.

:freak:
dbt
Remember New Orleans

[LynneSin]

12. Junior never wanted to be president

Seriously!

He and Jeb got drafted into running for governors in hopes that it would be Jeb to run in 2000 and get the 'Reagan-Bush Regime' back in office (there weren't an Reagan kids that could run).

I don't think he ever wanted president

[Philosoraptor]

14. He didn't look to happy to be pres.last Wednesday

I get the same impression, that he took it on reluctantly and now wishes he'd never been born a bush.

[SouthernBelle82]

15. It is a good question to ask

I think it's so Poppy can continue what he didn't get finished through junior. Why else is everyone in junior's cabinet from Bush1? It's the only thing I can think of.

[The Truffle]

19. Here's how Poppy could fix the damage

He and his family could get the hell out of politics and stay out.

[Frustratedlady]

22. I remember the conversations that were rampant the day GW announced

he was running for the first term. Everyone was so shocked at the huge war chest he opened with. Speculation was flying on the where/why/who the heck he was and who thought he was worth more than a passing glance. The general consensus, those first few days, was that he was a tool for poppa and his friends to get back in control. I've always thought their plan kind of backfired on them when GW got a taste of power and shut them out. All they could do was sit back and watch to see if he could handle the job. Obviously, he couldn't...so, they are back in the picture.

[iamahaingttta]

23. It's all so much worse than most people know...

You've probably already seen this.
For those who haven't:

http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm#Table

George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography

[LiberalEsto]

24. To punish us for not giving him a second term

It's all starting to make sense now, in a warped kind of way

[roguenkatz]

27. Whoop - dare id diz

“Sarah if the people ever find out what we have done to them, they will chase us down the streets and lynch us”.
George H. W. Bush to the late Sarah McClendon (the Grand Dam of the Washington Press Corp), June 1992.

[Imperialism Inc.]

25. Hasn't Bush done many of the things that Sr was critized for not doing.

He went to Baghdad. Refused to raise taxes regardless of debt.

Maybe he was just a big FU from Sr to the American people. Gave 'em what they wanted despite the fact that it was a disaster.

[leesa]

26. Seems rather cruel of Sr. He knows Jr couldn't handle it and would probably

end up in some sort of trouble...jailed, assassinated, certainly reviled.

[earth mom]

28. Jr. is the perfect snake oil salesman:

Charming when he wanted and needed to be; someone people wanted to have a beer with.

Able to morph into the role of fundie christian to get the votes necessary to be elected.

Sociopathic enough to implement an illegal war & fascist policies with utter disregard to what it did to innocent people or the Constitution of the United States.

[elehhhhna]

29. Answer: B/c someone had to bumble around and distract us while Carlyle

bought up the rest of our infrastructure and Gov't outsourcing contracts.

They OWN us now.

[ArmchairMeme]

32. ditto

[elehhhhna]

33. go here for more if you haven't seen it already;

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2694674

[Arkansas Granny]

30. My opinion is that the neocons wanted him because of his name

recognition and the fact that he would follow their agenda if elected. They appealed to his ego and gave him an opportunity to show "Poppy" that "W" could do something that "Poppy" hadn't done, nmaely, remove Saddam from power. If you look at Bush's policies and actions, and compare them with the policy statements, articles and letters regarding the ME on the PNAC website, you will find where "W" came up with is policy.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

If you read the letter to Bill Clinton dated 1/26/1998, you will find Bush'w Iraq policy in a nutshell. This letter was signed by Armitage, Bolton, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Perle, to name a few.

[Jawja]

31. Because Jeb was the Governor

of Florida and * was the Govenor of Texas. As far as votes were concerned, Texas was in the bag. Florida would have to be stolen.

Jeb had to be in place to steal Florida. This is why I believe that the Bush Criminal Cabal ran with the idiot in Texas and not the smarter one in Florida.

That's my humble opinion, of course.

[Canuckistanian]

34. I think they did it to prove a point

That conservatism transcends personalities. Also, it showed that they treat their leaders not as true leaders, but rather, conduits of raw conservative ideology.

They did the same with Reagan. Ronnie was no great thinker (or ideologue either), just a "symbol" that was held up as the the "ideal" of nobility, credibility and shucks, just plain folks like you and me.
Of course, no one paid attention to the fact that Reagan had not really accomplished much outside of Hollywood other than being a popular after-dinner speaker.

With Shrub, it was an all-out effort. Take a little-regarded figure who's renowned for nothing other than his last name and build him up to be the second coming of Saint Ronnie himself.

Of course, there was some "cleaning up" to do, erasing those little embarrassing DUI/drug records, playing up his "military career" (snort!) and lionizing his business acumen (huh?). Of course, the right people had to be paid off along the way and any trace of skeptic had to be eliminated. And they were, with a vengeance.

Now, Lord Bunnypants is considered an embarrassment to "true" conservatives. Funny how two short years ago, he was the embodiment of triumphant conservatism's popularism.

Read Glenn Greenwald's excellent piece on this point:
http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/11/george-bush-and-gop-house-leaders.html

His legacy? It depends on your POV, I guess. Serious historians have already made their opinions known that he is, in fact one of the worst there ever was. And in real-time, while it's unfolding. That's pretty bad. Donnie Fowler of HuffPo explains here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/donnie-fowler/historians-bush-the-wors_b_11685.html

I'm as astounded as you are. But not completely surprised.

[Philosoraptor]

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