Moderate Dems Being Shoved Aside

[Laura PourMeADrink]

Flipped onto Faux News and this was the screen banner.

Bet they sat around a table for hours thinking, ok, we lost, how can we now stir up some shit.

[bigtree]

1. it goes with the opposite meme that progressives are being shoved aside

can they both be true?

[Fridays Child]

2. Yes. Foxworld™.

[yurbud]

one is wishful thinking by the GOP, the other by the DLC

[bigtree]

6. foolish reasoning

EVERYONE has an agenda. ALL will be challenged to reach out to others for support. NO ONE GROUP can accomplish ANYTHING on their own. These pols know this. The columnists and others egging them on know this.

Funny that these experienced 'pundits' who are bandying this feud about, like it will lead to something meaningful, don't explain to their audience that the legislature is an institution of compromise. If it's not, it has to be about persuasion if anything is to be accomplished. These legislators bring their individual points of view to the table and are challenged to garner support. They won't accomplish this by lining up on opposite sides of the room. This attempt by some to divide the party, from any quarter, should not get anyone's support. These folks have to come together, and fast, to rescue our democracy and bring our troops home. The dividers are doing all of us a disservice by attempting to set the rest of us against each other. United we stand . . .

[yurbud]

12. difficulty with compromise--one and a half parties have pulled far, far right

and compromise won't bring troops home because GOP will try to hold onto oil concessions for big oil.

We can be polite about it, but have to draw some lines in the sand or we will get rolled again.

[bigtree]

14. again, NOTHING can be accomplished by sitting on their hands on Iraq

they will have to fashion some compromise between the immediate withdrawal folks and the phased-deployment ones. There is no working majority of congresscritters favoring immediate withdrawal, just as there isn't any significant quorum for an indefinite stay. They HAVE to work together to fufill their promises. Obstinance won't bring the troops home. It won't work. These folks have to engage each other and work these issues and concerns out among themselves against the backdrop of the election results and the prospect of the politicization of events surrounding the upcoming presidential race.

[yurbud]

18. someone will have to acknowledge oil concession issue or GOP intransigence

won't be surmountable.

They went in there to steal. They want to know how much of what they stole they can keep. Ultimately, that is all they care about.

If the Democrats said that out loud, they would have public support to go further faster.

[zbdent]

15. I thought it was because all the Dems elected

were conservatives :silly:

You know, like Sherrod Brown ...

[Donald Ian Rankin]

21. Both are most certainly true.

There are a hell of a lot of Democrats in a hell of a lot of places. That means that if you look for examples of either moderates or progressives being shoved aside, you can find plenty; provided you don't look at the big picture either case is easy to make.

[MannyGoldstein]

3. It Might Be True

The DLC (the Other Republican Party) seems to have the long knives out for moderates like Dean.

[wyldwolf]

4. really? I haven't seen any examples of that

[MannyGoldstein]

5. Good one!

:rofl:

(You had me there for a minute!)

[wyldwolf]

7. no seriously. Is there an example of that?

[DemBones DemBones]

10. Yes. nt

[wyldwolf]

11. what? nt

[bigtree]

8. Yet we didn't elect ANY of these interest groups.

Best to keep our focus on what our representatives in Congress actually do. Every move forward will involve compromise. It's a diverse membership representing a diverse nation. They are challenged to work together to fufill the promises they made. They won't accomplish that by dividing into ideological groups.

[Ravenseye]

9. Of coures they're saying that

Best way for them to invalidate the democratic party. No matter what they do, say it comes from the far left liberal socialist nutso wing, even if it's a moderate stance, to get people to reactionarily hate the idea.

[KharmaTrain]

13. Look At The Sniping Going On Here...

Any post about the DLC is sure to draw as much, if not more, venom than the Repugnicans. There are many claiming victories and trying to diss the others...or blaming their losses on Emanuel or Schummer as if they really wanted to throw millions at candidates and then see them fail. :crazy:

Last week, I saw the Democratic Party reclaim the political "middle"...and if Moderates were being "shoved" aside, it was because our ranks have swelled with Independents and moderate Repugnicans as well.

The GOOP denial game continues...and is fueled by all the Democratic sniping that I'm glad was mostly contained until after the election, but is creating divisions within the Democratic party that could snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Faux has developed this cartoon image of Democrats as being wild-eyed godless hippies and when millions of people came out, many the suburban friends and neighbors who they thought were one of them, and now are trying to explain away this loss without taking a good hard look at themselves...and hopefully they won't and will remain disconnected with the majority of the American electorate in '08.

My concern is that, while the country has thoroughly repudiated the right wing agenda, it's not ready for a Progressive one. First, we must build trust and loyalty among our new allies and consolidate last week's gains. Also, unlike the Repugnican party that is monolithic, Democrats are a very diversified group and this is viewed by the right wing as a weakness...but we know its our strength. Damned thing is the powers that be know its our strength, too and will do all they can to tear it down or face an even more humiliating defeat.

[warrens]

16. Yeah, like Murtha

I could never stomach Faux, but I have been watching a bit lately. They're pretty disheartened, and all they seem able to do is call Pelosi names and claim the Dems are at each other's throats.

[NightOwwl]

17. I flipped it on for a second...

and I immediately heard the broadcaster refer to us as the "Democrat Party."

Buh bye Faux News.

[bryant69]

19. This is a common argument on the right

Saw two or three references to it over at Townhall this morning. I suppose they are hoping to build up Democratic Moderates, particularly the new guys, so that they can weaken the power of the mroe liberal members of the new class.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[sweetheart]

20. They're scared of the populism

The new dems have a hint of populist demands from government, something
the aristocratic 2 party DC in crowd rejects in every media outlet loudly!

Popular demands of the mob will leave the entire republican party hanging
on nooses if they're not careful. The mandate is very serious, and
war crimes are very serious. The anger that has built up over
the repression from these corporatist wealth concentrating feudalists
will not be forgiven, and they realize that their flexi-labour utopia is
1 legislation session away from living wages and universal medical with
all drugs legal.