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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:04 AM
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How come Democrats don't make a HUGE issue out of John McCain's "Keating Five" involvement?
Edited on Mon Nov-13-06 10:05 AM by in_cog_ni_to
http://www.azcentral.com/specials/special39/articles/1003mccainbook5.html

Please read this chapter of the Thrifts scandal. McCain was up to his neck in that. WHY don't Democrats use that against him in his campaigns? Is it because the other 4 involved were Democrats? Mr. McCain wasted no time in pointing that out...at the end of this piece. See bottom snip...

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But McCain made a critical error.

In spinning his side of the Keating story, McCain adopted the blanket defense that Keating was a constituent and that he had every right to ask his senators for help. In attending the meetings, McCain said, he simply wanted to make sure that Keating was treated like any other constituent.

Keating was far more than a constituent to McCain, however.

On Oct. 8, 1989, The Republic revealed that McCain's wife and her father had invested $359,100 in a Keating shopping center in April 1986, a year before McCain met with the regulators.

The paper also reported that the McCains, sometimes accompanied by their daughter and baby-sitter, had made at least nine trips at Keating's expense, sometimes aboard the American Continental jet. Three of trips were made during vacations to Keating's opulent Bahamas retreat at Cat Cay.

McCain also did not pay Keating for the trips until years after they were taken, when he learned that Keating was in trouble over Lincoln. Total cost: $13,433.

When the story broke, McCain did nothing to help himself. When reporters first called him, he was furious. Caught out in the open, the former fighter pilot let go with a barrage of cover fire. Sen. Hothead came out in all his glory.

''You're a liar,''' McCain snapped Sept. 29 when a Republic reporter asked him about business ties between his wife and Keating.

''That's the spouse's involvement, you idiot,'' McCain said later in the same conversation. ''You do understand English, don't you?''

He also belittled the reporters when they asked about his wife's ties to Keating.

''It's up to you to find that out, kids.''

And then he played the POW card.

''Even the Vietnamese didn't question my ethics,'' McCain said.<snip>


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''For the first time in history, the Ethics Committee overruled the recommendation of the independent counsel,'' McCain said. ''I'm sure it had nothing to do with the fact that I was the only Republican of the five and the Democrats were in the majority (in the Senate).''<snip>
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:05 AM
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1. Too long ago
The American people have a short memory. This is ancient history for most of them.
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9119495 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:08 AM
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3. But so was Vietnam...and I knew this guy that threw his
medals over a fence and apparently didn't do a good job in the war. Politics change all the time and after '04 everything is fair game...no sin is excused anymore (perhaps this is a bad thing).
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:10 AM
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4. Good point. The Keating Five also netted a Combined..$1.3 MILLION in campaign contributions.
Smells like Abramoff to me.
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9119495 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:06 AM
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2. We will. Let's let him get somewhere first.
I think this is part of the file they are building on McCain. Two years ago many would have thought him to be unbeatable. Now, I think he would be a weak nominee.

Also, I think he'd have to give up his senate seat to run (unless he is up in 2010) which might be a Dem pick up.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:13 AM
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5. We should blow him out of the water when he's steaming in to port
right in front of the whole world, rather than when he's far out to sea. If you take him out too early, it gives the Puggies a chance to focus more effort on building up someone else. I'd love to see one after another Puggy candidate, starting with McCain, go down in the flames of old scandals, but not until 2008, when people are watching. I want them to end up with maybe Harriet Miers as the only potential candidate still standing.
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9119495 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:16 AM
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6. Agreed. I don't want anything to "run its course" before the
primary season even starts.

If the anti-corruption mood is still strong, McCain's Keating involvement should be a big story.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:19 AM
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7. October 31, 2008 would be a good day to blow him out of the water.
Surely there's more garbage on the guy that's more recent too....he is awfully close to the psycho-in-chief. He can't be completely clean.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:33 AM
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10. That is the correct answer. n/t
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:29 AM
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8. many posts on that went ignored when McCain was popular on DU
At least that part's over
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:32 AM
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9. I'm STILL LAUGHING MY ASS OFF over the DUers who wanted McCain
to be Kerry's VP!:rofl: What were they thinking???!!! He's a corrupt crook just like the rest of his party!
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Marlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 12:54 PM
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11. I think
Edited on Mon Nov-13-06 12:56 PM by Marlie
The Democrats may have learned their lessons. If McCain is the candidate of choice
I'm sure they will dig up everything on McCain, if they don't, the bloggers will.
The word will be out. He's a loser and I agree, I hope he is the Republican
candidate. He has too much baggage to win. He'll also be seventy-four years old
in 2008. He's an old has been.
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