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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:47 AM
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marc costanzo's profile
I am a lifelong Conservative Republican .


I have an Associates Degree in the Science of Electronics .

Ann Coulter is a Goddess and I worship Laura Ingraham and Michele Malkin .

English is the langauge of the United States of America- - our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution are written in the langauge that expresses our civilized freedoms .

Spanish is the language of Banana Republics, beyond that it belongs in a European country .

http://www.freerepublic.com/~marccostanzo/


:rofl:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:48 AM
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1. plus, he likes perfect teets
:)
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:48 AM
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2. Why are all the nuts sc i-fi fans?
Does it have something to do with opting out of reality?
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:52 AM
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4. Sounds like a generalization to me. Millions of nuts out there are not Sci Fi fans, millions of
Sci Fi fans are not nuts.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:53 AM
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8. Uh Oh.
You're a scifi fan, right?
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:55 AM
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12. What does it matter? A generalization is a generalization. n/t
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:56 AM
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14. lets not go have a flamewar over that
This is supposed to be fun poking at freepers.
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:58 AM
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18. Fine by me, I don't get involved in flamewars. n/t
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:37 PM
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34. And let us not forget that in its inception, SF was urban, intellectual,
Jewish, Democratic and liberal.

Referring, of course, to the Golden Age of NY pulp SF in the 30s.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 08:38 PM
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56. thanks ncevilduer
how soon they forget the likes of isaac asimov, a great heart, a great humanist
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:53 AM
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7. Not all nuts are sci-fi fans
Not all sci-fi fans are nuts.

And I'd hardly call this guy a sci-fi fan anyway -- he thinks Roddenberry's focus on mankind was cynical and fatalistic.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:54 AM
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9. Where are you getting that he was a sci-fi fan?
Didn't see that.
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:54 AM
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10. WTF
Why not throw out another all or none statement.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 12:00 PM
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20. OK
I happen to think all repuglicons have small "packages"

Hows that for an all or none statement?
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:38 PM
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33. correct
in that it is an all or none statement, but like the first absolute comment it is also incorrect.

Why brand a whole genre of literature because you don't get it?
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 05:36 PM
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48. Freud
Edited on Mon Nov-13-06 05:36 PM by jasonc
may agree with me. There is certainly something behind their obsession with controlling sex.
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:37 PM
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58. What the fuck are you talking about
how did we go from sci fi to controlling sex...lol.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 08:46 AM
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69. Okay. Note to self; Do not irritate sci-fi fans.
Seriously, I had no idea that sentiment would run so high on this. It may not be my favorite genre, but OK; I give in. Don't hit me.
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 11:38 PM
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75. Thanks for the false understanding
Don't be foolish and make sweeping generalizations about anything. That is a good start. the man did a serious crime, to lay that accountability at the feet of science fiction is as lame and as bad as blaming it on Black Sabbath. Sometimes people on the left sound like those on the right.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:56 AM
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13. I'm a Sci-Fi and Fantasy fan.
Edited on Mon Nov-13-06 11:59 AM by Cleita
I don't think I'm nuts, well not in a bad way. You can tell stories in those genres that resonate that you can't in others. I think with guys like that freeper it's that they like the high tech violence, like ray guns and stuff like that. Also, since the genre is very much about good vs. evil it appeals to their black and white mentalities.

This is why the new Battlestar Gallactica is such a good series because the good guys and the bad guys are suddenly nuanced and are both bad and good, like in real life. I don't think your average freeper cares for Battlestar Gallactica even if they understand it.
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 12:07 PM
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23. Hey now!
From what little I've seen, I would call this nut absolutely not a sci-fi fan, if he's criticizing the Star Trek universe which promotes a (gods forbid) progressive future. If anything, the true nuts don't have the imagination, the vision, the ideals, to be sci-fi fans. All they know is their own little narrow worlds, their daily plodding version of reality. I certainly would never accept him as "one of my own."
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 12:47 PM
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28. "opting out of reality?" ?
It is because of sci-fi (R.Hienlien in particular) that I am aware of the illusions created by politicians,goverment employees,and MSM to cover-up and/or enable their true reasons for what they do.
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 12:47 PM
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29. all sci-fi fans are not nuts. n/t
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 12:50 PM
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30. I'm a long-time sci-fi and fantasy fan too. I'm a gamer too.
I'm also a liberal Democrat in a red (now purple) state. Guess what, I'm multidimensional too. I read political books, environmental books and do legal research. I've been a delegate to the DNC and I work very hard on grassroot issues.

No opting out of reality for me. Rather, reading and gaming help relax and expand my mind so I can think outside of the box.

On the other hand, I do not live with my mom. I moved out of my parent's house when I was 18 and have been self-supporting since then. I have lived in a basement but never at a relative's house. Rather, the basement apartments I've lived in were what I could afford at the time. The rent was cheaper which made it possible for me to put myself (a boyfriend and three of my brothers) through college. I spent half my time in law school in what would be considered a basement apartment.



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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 03:29 PM
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37. Wow.
You guys are even touchier than the gun nuts.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 03:35 PM
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39. I think they are just trying to broaden
your view of sci fans, #30 didn't come off "touchy" the way I read it.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 04:47 PM
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42. I guess that wasn't as funny as I thought it would be.
Sorry to be snarky. I've actually tried to like sci-fi. Like my attempts to try to like football, country western music and the WWF, no dice. (Every once in awhile, I try to understand what my husband sees in that stuff).
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 05:12 PM
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45. Have you tried
reading one the older sci fi classics? My favorites are the Asimov Robot novels. The movies Bicentennial man (with Robin Williams) and I Robot (with Will Smith) are both based on Asimovs work. The books are better of course.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 08:37 AM
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66. Does the Twilight Zone count?
I really liked that show.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 04:29 PM
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41. I don't think so
I just don't think someone is "nut" if they have a hobby that encourages creative thought. I don't think being a sci-fi fan means I have a greater propensity for conducting terroristic acts, living in a relative's basement or being an all-around Republican loser.

Besides, I just like sci-fi & fantasy books (yes, books over movies) and I like gaming. I'm also a middle-aged woman who is very happily married. I'm also an ex-HS cheerleader of mixed race (American Indian, Black, English, German, French, Danish and Welsh) who loves sports (college basketball, sumo wrestling and boxing), owns guns, loves dogs (have three rescues), volunteers for local afterschool programs and at one of the local homeless shelters, and a die-hard grassroots Democrat. I eat organic food but not as much as I eat meat. I can fix cars and do things around the house like fix the plumbing, frame a door and make a great dinner.

I learned to read because of comic books. My mom would buy them for my older brothers but they had to read them aloud to us younger kids. It was my first step toward a life long interest in sci-fi and fantasy. I've been involved with politics since I was about 8 and began canvassing with my precinct committee parents. I got interested in politics because of "The Twilight Zone" episodes. My mom and dad talked about the political undertones of the episodes during commercials. I thought that it was pretty cool that you could use entertainment (books, movies, literature, etc.) as a metaphor for something else. I found a lot of that in sci-fi and fantasy. I find it these days in some of the games I play.

So, anyway, I didn't mean to come off as touchy. It's a big world. I just don't think it's fair to use broad-brushes to paint people with especially when it is done derogatorily.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 05:00 PM
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43. Is there a Cthulhu avatar at FR?
I think there are more of us here than there.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 05:44 PM
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49. I had a dog named Cthulhu
Her pups were named Augie, Shub and Yogi for August Derleth, Shub-Niggurath and Yog-Sothoth. What can I say? I loved Lovecraft.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 05:56 PM
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52. I had a Cthulhu fish on my car for years
bought it from Chaosium at a book fair. What kind of doggies?
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 08:02 PM
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53. Cthulhu was a mutt
rescued from a dumpster in the hospital parking lot in Hutchinson, Kansas. She had a brother with her but he didn't survive. Both the dogs had been poisoned and tossed. The mom of a friend of mine found her and I got her through the night and then to a vet the next day. I had her for almost nine years. Some vets told me she was mostly terrier, some said shih tzu and a few said poodle. She was just a little black hairy dog that was one of the smartest dogs I ever had. Two of her pups were sired by a black lab and the other by a doberman. The pups were all adopted out and Cthulhu passed away in 1988.

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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:06 PM
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62. Remember the Cthulhu bumpersticker?
Cthulhu Saves!
(in case he gets hungry later)
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 05:12 PM
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46. That's a bullshit generalization--and I despise science fiction, btw. nt
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 05:48 PM
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51. Their "opting out of reality" doesn't always lean to SF.
A lot of them go for westerns, or Vigilante-Pulp...

Do I even need to mention the "Left Behind" series?
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 08:43 AM
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68. They think Bush is a cowboy.
They have no grasp of reality.

They probably think sci-fi is the news.
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hsher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:02 PM
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60. Not all sci-fi fans are nuts, but...
It does seem all nuts are sci-fi fans. At least the ones I've run into. But then, I was a sci-fi enjoyer who got stalked, harassed and terrified out my wits by a sci-fi FAN. Maybe we need to differentiate between science-fiction enjoyers, who know the stuff on screen and in the books and games is entertainment and not real, and science-fiction FANS, who generally demonstrate slight trouble with that concept.

I avoid sci-fi now. I used to like Dr. Who, but so did the stalker. After my encounter with her, I haven't read a Who N/A novelization since, watched so much as a single episode, and if I see the word TARDIS on a site, I click away from it. She's ruined it for me.

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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 12:13 AM
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65. Wow, that sucks
But please bear in mind, fandom of anything or anyone in general has a propensity for attracting scary nutcases. The word 'fan' does come from 'fanatic', after all. Eschewing 'fan' for another word doesn't change the tendency for some to go overboard.

Fans of religion -- usually referred to as 'the faithful' but there's no crucial difference -- regularly engage in violence. And celebrities of all stripes are stalked and threatened by fans.

Sci-fi's very broad fan base makes it more likely that this kind of situation will arise, particularly if you're involved in sci-fi yourself. But that doesn't make every sci-fi fan a nut.

I'm sorry this person did this to you and that you let them ruin your interest in Dr. Who.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:09 PM
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63. Why do all the nuts use the internet? Maybe they lack face to face communication skills to
Come on, you know that's bullshit.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:12 PM
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64. So is every reader of fiction "opting out of reality?"
Or just sci-fi readers?

I'm asking, out of curiosity, because Jane Austen took a lot of shit when she invented the popular novel for inspiring people to "opt out of reality." Now, to be fair, Pride and Prejudice makes me want to opt out of CONSCIOUSNESS, but the point, I hope, is clear.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:50 AM
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3. He reminds me of diarrhea.
His mouth runs a lot, but there's no substance. :yoiks:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:53 AM
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5. Is it official that this guy is a freeper?
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:55 AM
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11. Depends upon your interpretation of 'official' - all the details would seem to prove it,
but there has been no announcement of it.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 12:40 PM
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27. He posts on freerepublic
and supports RW idiots. I think that I officially makes him a freeper.
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:53 AM
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6. hmmm misspelling language twice in the same line while espousing English n/t
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:59 AM
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19. What I thought was funny...
is that he thinks English is superior to Spanish because Spanish comes from Europe.

:rofl:
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 12:04 PM
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22. heheheh n/t
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 05:15 PM
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47. Oh, that's rich!
:rofl:
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 03:15 PM
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36. I caught that too
You can't write this shit. They never disappoint.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:57 AM
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15. and i live at home with MOMMY. and no JOB. forgot those in bio n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:57 AM
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16. Well,


:shrug:
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 12:03 PM
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21. Didn't Some Of The Founding Fathers Want Another Language Than English?
As a part of their hate of all things British, IRC, it was Benjamin Franklin who suggested the new nation adopt Hebrew as its national language.

Imagine freeper heads exploding having to learn to read and write that language.

:rofl:

Great catch!
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 12:09 PM
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25. I think German was in the running for a while, too. n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:14 PM
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32. Don't hurt them.
:evilgrin:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:58 AM
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17. Hmm, marc sounds like a Lou Dobbs fan n/t
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 12:09 PM
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24. marc costanzo - that sounds kinda, I dunno, foreign
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 12:14 PM
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26. Sounds like this guy needs a girlfriend (the kind that doesn't have a staple in her belly)...
..."Ann Coulter is a Goddess and I worship Laura Ingraham and Michele Malkin."

The term "hard-up" comes to mind. :eyes:

BTW, if he "worships" the other two, shouldn't that mean they're "goddesses" also? Or is Ann Coulter the only "Goddess" he doesn't worship?
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:11 PM
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31. Or an inflation tube nt
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:42 PM
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35. Ann Coulter is the Supreme Goddess, and he is not worthy --
so he worships the lesser goddesses in hopes they will intervene for him.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:49 PM
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59. He lives with his parents and he's
in his 30's. 'nuff said!
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 03:30 PM
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38. "langauge"
Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

:eyes:
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 08:50 AM
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70. Not once, but TWICE in the same sentence praising the English language!
:dunce:

mikey_the_rat
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 03:50 PM
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40. He's unemployed
I wonder if he has healthcare. Well, it doesn't matter, since he'll be officially on the dole at Leavenworth.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 05:05 PM
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44. Jefferson Drafted In Welsh and English
Our founding documents spent some time in an unpronounciable form! Jefferson's family was Welsh, and he was very comfortable with that language, as well as English.
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Rockstone Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 05:45 PM
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50. Isn't this the guy from Seinfeld??!?!
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 08:15 PM
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54. All over the internet today, now nothing on the news tonight
about this...can't find anything on cable. Little help here?
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 08:37 PM
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55. what? how is that a profile?
what drugs is this dude on?
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 08:43 PM
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57. "This account has been banned or is suspended."
I guess I've come a little late to the party, again. I don't care whether or not the guy is a SF fan, but I was interested in whatever else he had to say. Oh well. :shrug:
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:03 PM
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61. I just noticed that too
:popcorn:
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 08:41 AM
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67. It Was There Last Night...
I tried to search the message boards there to see if that Screen Name has posted, and came up with nothing...but that doesn't mean his screeds aren't there. Some of the most rabid right wing hives hang out there and he could easily have posted under another name.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 08:53 AM
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71. Here's a cache of his posts:
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 09:07 AM
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72. That's Freeperland, I'm Referring To AOL
They have political message boards there where some of the most rabid hate was spewed. Someone posted his Freeper stuff yesterday and stuff from other sites...I was curious if he was a hive dweller on the AOL message boards...or might be worth a scan of Yahoo as well.

This person sure is one sick puppy and makes me wonder how many others are like him out there.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 09:19 AM
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73. Oops, sorry!
:hi:
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 08:38 PM
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74. kick
Edited on Tue Nov-14-06 08:39 PM by LSK
Hi Keith O!!!

:hi:
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