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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:45 PM
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The country has beecome more conservative
don't you love the mantra? The latest talking point?

So I got into a "discusion" with a local disheartneed GOPer... and he said, but you see the country has become more conservative


Well, I could have gone... talking point (It is)

Insteand... I agreed with him.

He looked shocked... then I explained, "You are right, if conservative means balanced budgets, and spend as you go... absolutely the country has become more comservative... and that my friend is what the Dems ran on."

he stood there, flapping his jowls not quite knowing what to do or say next.

So here is how you spin the spin, and by the way... it's true, it's true, many, and I mean many of our progressive candidates ran on fiscal discipline... which USED to be a GOP mantra

Oh and one more thing, given how deep the blue tsunami went... we may be talking 1932 redux, so watch out... for it will take far less time for the GOP to come back to life
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ItNerd4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:55 PM
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1. I agree wholeheartedly
I hope the Democratic leadership hears that one resonating message. Fiscal Responsibility!
I know they'll hear the gay rights, out of Iraq, etc. mantra.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:56 PM
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2. Indeed

Why else would a leftist like George Allen have been defeated by a right-winger like Jim Webb in the Liberal state of Virginia.



/sarc
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SeattleRob Donating Member (893 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:59 PM
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3. i guess if they keep repeating it, maybe they will convince themselves!
I think it's very encouraging (and the election proves it) that the American Public is seeing through the
constant barrage of propaganda from the "conventional wisdom" folks.
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:04 PM
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4. The GOP will come back once their mess is cleaned up by Dems...
Edited on Mon Nov-13-06 02:04 PM by Crankie Avalon
...then it'll be back to caring about blowjobs from interns, flag burning, and blaming gay people for the impending fall of civilization.

The part of the Repuke "agenda" that the Repukes allow to be put forward to the public is fundamentally frivolous and only gets listened to when people have the luxury of having things going so well that they are bored enough with prosperity to again start caring about tabloid-style subjects.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:05 PM
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6. and so it goes. . . Republicans f--k it up, Dems clean it up, then
Republicans f--k it up again.
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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:05 PM
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5. Hi Nadine!
Good to see you back.

:hi:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:23 PM
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10. Hey there, so busy with edit for next release
that I have barely time for a drive by post

Bad me

to the corner
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:06 PM
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7. I Say LET THEM GO W/ This Frame!!!
If it makes the conservatives come over to the Dems, it can only help us! Dems are the TRUE conservatives!! Come on home!

This frame is doing some heavy lifting for the Dem party.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:07 PM
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8. doesn't this scare you just a little?
I mean, if the Dems start a bunch of crap about gay marriage and reproductive rights, I'm outta here.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:23 PM
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9. That is not a conservative agenda
but distraction.

the GOP has labeled the left as tax and spend liberals. The largest spender in the hisotory of the US, not the modern history, but since Washington took the oath of office, has been the GOP.

So when they say... conservative values won

Turn it around

You're right, if conservative means fiscally, you are damn right skippy... we 'are
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AJ9000 Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:26 PM
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11. The country has been pushed rightward by a mostly conservative media. nm
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:28 PM
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12. True, true, true
Edited on Mon Nov-13-06 02:28 PM by nadinbrzezinski
no denying that... the center is to the right of Hitler but still to the left of Atila the hun

that said... when your local GOPer uses the mantra, turn the knife a little... after all they would in a heartbeat

And you need to think on your feet and turn them talking point on their head
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:37 PM
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13. I ask them to explain Bernie Sanders. They ho-hum and go away. n/t
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Colonel Bat Guano Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 03:26 PM
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14. Florida version
Edited on Mon Nov-13-06 03:27 PM by Colonel Bat Guano
Already used this one once.

"Well, Dems won all over the country, but at least Crist won for Governor!"

(This obviously meant to make me squirm or scream. Instead I smile and say,)

"Yeah! Isn't it great?"

RWer: (puzzled look, the needle didn't jab)

Me: (straight faced) "I think it's really, really progressive that the state of Florida has elected its first gay governor."

Then heads start exploding. When they start going, "but -- but -- he isn't, that's a smear", you go, lightly, "listen, it's fine with me, and I think it's very open minded of Republicans to accept it. You're great to have done that. Good for you!"
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 12:19 AM
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15. Nice! n/t
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