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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 09:15 PM
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I have serious doubts as to whether McCain could make it out of the primaries
in the same way I question if Clinton could.

It is my impression that most primary voters are in the base of either primary. The base of the Republican Party is more conservative, and ours is more liberal. The conservatives I know can't stand McCain. Hence I wonder if he could make it through the primaries.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 09:21 PM
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1. It all depends on how hard the media is on him
So far, they love him. A lovable maverick according to them. The media also considers him to be a moderate!!

I think the best argument to use against him is that he's too old (he'll be 72 in 08).
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 09:25 PM
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2. Now see, that's part of the problem
Ya don't wanna be a moderate until AFTER the primaries.

I wonder if the "Manchurian Candidate" crap would be wheeled out again. Or the "black baby" smear.

I suppose it would depend on if Rove is campaigning for someone on the Republican side.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 09:30 PM
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4. I heard that he got eaten alive by Timmy Russert on Sunday
and Timmy was trying to be nice to him. He's twisted himself up in so many knots trying to be everything to everyone that he won't even be able to survive friendly questioning, let alone the debates.

The Repukes won't go for him because he's weak, and they don't like weak.
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bluewithinblue Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 09:40 PM
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13. You're Exactly Right
The man can't answer a question without the data from the corresponding poll.



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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 10:17 AM
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20. Hi bluewithinblue!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 09:45 PM
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15. I enjoyed the one question I got to hear from Tim on Sunday
the one where he reminded McCain that he'd been Kerry's friend, and so how could he seriously believe that Kerry was trying to diss the troups. When I left for church, rolling my eyes, McCain was trying to explain that he'd read the statement very carefully and could find no joke about Bush in it anywhere. He was playing stupid for political reasons. That tells me all I needed to know. And climbing into Bush's pocket in 2004 will haunt him as well, I reckon.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:28 PM
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19. I agree with you
strongly about the age issue.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 09:27 PM
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3. I don't have any doubts.
Edited on Mon Nov-13-06 09:28 PM by Crunchy Frog
I think he will be mincemeat by the end of the primaries. I do NOT think that he will be the Repuke nominee. That's my prediction anyway. We'll see how it pans out.
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bushass Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 09:30 PM
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5. MCAIN?

WELL HELL YEA MCAIN COULD DEFINATELY MAKE IT!!!ALL HE HAS TO DO IS MAKE JOE LIEBARMAN HIS V,P!!!

"joey" will do anything for mcain!! {anything?}


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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 09:33 PM
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6. Should there be a sarcasm icon in there somewhere?
Hrm.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 09:33 PM
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7. Not my Party's problem.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 09:35 PM
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9. Oh, you think so, do you. Just wait til 2008. It'll be our problem alright
Just as who we run will be their problem.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 09:35 PM
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8. Depends on which McCain runs.
He's flip-flopped more than the pancake cook at IHOP.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 09:35 PM
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10. I am of the opinion
McCain has developing mental problems. He is also looking very old and tired. I do not believe he has a prayer in 2008.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 09:36 PM
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11. And if Bush remains unpopular, all the opposition will have to do is show
McCain being all kissyface with Junior, and that oughta do it.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 09:39 PM
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12. I have trouble imagining who their alternative would be at this point
I can't imagine that base Republican voters would actually choose Giuliani. Tancredo is too much of a nut even for the GOP. Huckabee maybe?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 09:43 PM
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14. I suppose Frist is dead politically. Allen too. The base would have liked them.
if not the general public. The hard right in the party liked Santorum as well. Thought he was the best guy in the Senate.

I'd prefer Chaffee or Hagel, but they're too moderate, and one of them didn't win re-election either. Seems to be a prerequisite.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:00 PM
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16. What about Mit Romney?
Edited on Mon Nov-13-06 10:01 PM by Crunchy Frog
Any idea what he's like? I don't know shit about him, but I've been seeing his name mentioned alot.

Giuliani will be toast too. Even the Hypocrisy party couldn't nominate a man who tried to move his mistress into the house he was still sharing with his wife and kids while he was mayor. Not after what they did to Clinton.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:10 PM
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17. McCain's too old and too wacky in general...as soon as the media tires of
the "Saint John, the fightin' maverick" meme he won't have much to fall back on.

-Giuliani is dead meat... can't win primaries in THIS GOP with a pro-life, pro-gay, gun control record along with his tabloid marital history. Gimme a break.

-Romney's a Mormon which would be kind of weird for the fundies to get behind...lots of deep religious animosity there going back more than 100 years.

Some GOP strategist today on Tweety seemed to be wistfully hoping for some unknown to "break out of the pack" ala Clinton in 1992.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 11:13 AM
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21. Evangelicals won't vote for a Mormon
He has the look, but being a Mormon makes him dead meat in the primaries.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:18 PM
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18. McCain is like Charlie Brown kicking the football ....
.... Bush holds it down for him to kick it, and rips it away at the last moment.

Then Bush tells McCain, you screwed up --you trusted me! LOL

I think it is possible that McCain is being played and Bush has no intention of naming him VP after 'Big Time' resigns because of health problems.

However, I do believe either McCain or Giuliani are the likely picks right now to take over as VP if Big Time resigns. But the cast of characters could change over time....
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 12:01 PM
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22. The Cheney Replacement for VP is the only reason McCain & Giuliani are
being touted all over by the Pundit Hacks. Neither of them will look good to voters in another year when the full mess Bush has forced the country into becomes apparent. We still have the "Bush Economy" waiting to implode plus other policy decisions he's made that will make '08 very different from what folks are thinking these days just off this election.

I can't imagine who could emerge for the Repugs since the taint of cronyism and crookery is so embedded in the whole group.
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