Missouri panel: Abortion partly to blame for illegal immigration

[wicket]

Mo. panel: Immigration, abortion linked

A Republican-led legislative panel claims in a new report on illegal immigration that abortion is partly to blame because it is causing a shortage of American workers.

The report from the state House Special Committee on Immigration Reform also claims "liberal social welfare policies" have discouraged Americans from working and encouraged immigrants to cross the border illegally. The statements about abortion, welfare policies and a recommendation to abolish income taxes in favor of sales taxes were inserted into the immigration report by the committee chairman, Rep. Ed Emery.

All six Democrats on the panel refused to sign the report. Some of them called the abortion assertion ridiculous and embarrassing. "There's a lot of editorial comment there that I couldn't really stomach," Rep. Trent Skaggs said Monday. "To be honest, I think it's a little delusional."

All 10 Republican committee members signed the report, though one of them, Rep. Billy Pat Wright, said Monday he didn't recall it connecting abortion and illegal immigration.

Emery, who equates abortion to murder, defended the assertions. "We hear a lot of arguments today that the reason that we can't get serious about our borders is that we are desperate for all these workers," Emery said. "You don't have to think too long. If you kill 44 million of your potential workers, it's not too surprising we would be desperate for workers."

You just can't make this stuff up folks :crazy:

[OwnedByFerrets]

1. That makes me SICK!! nt

[WindRavenX]

2. I'm high right now, so forgive me...

...but is he saying that because of abortion, we're having fewer white babies so that it was necessary for Mexicans to come over...? Is that what this is saying?

[spindrifter]

7. I think he means poor babies, not just white babies.

[ClassWarrior]

3. We're not desperate for workers. We're desperate for criminal companies...

...to pay a legal and fair wage.

NGU.

[muntrv]

4. Sounds like Eric Rudolph's motives for bombing abortion clinics.

[0rganism]

5. 10 to 6? What kind of batshit crazy "panel" is that?

Did MO legislature really swing that far to the rightwing?
Oh well, as long as they don't try to make the case that it's "bipartisan"...

[bobbolink]

6. well, that's a nice stretch...

:crazy:

[ck4829]

8. You are sadly mistaken, Mr. Emery

It's the Saucer People in conjunction with the Illuminati, they're the ones behind it. I have the proof in the same you have proof in your report.

[turbo_satan]

9. Missouri is the new Kansas.

[dalaigh lllama]

12. Let he who lives in a state without freepers

cast the first stone. ;-)

[RayOfHope]

17. Well, we did just elect Claire and pass the stem cell Amendment. It's not a total loss n/t

[MadHound]

23. Shows how much you know about Missouri

Yes, we currently have a Republican legislature and govenore. I expect that will be cleaned out in '08. Most of the people in this state are fed up with Blunt and the Republican bullying, and will clean house in the next election.

Also, being from Florida, you really don't have much room to talk.

[turbo_satan]

36. 'twas a facile joke...

No insult intended!

[Mythsaje]

10. "To be honest, I can't say what I really think

because you would never be able to print it." Replace "a little delusion" with "batshit crazy" and you'd be closer to the mark.

I'm pretty sure the whole philosophy behind this report is "we'll come up with some cockamamie thing that supports our ideology, whether it makes any sense or not."

Sure. We're running out of workers because we're killing them all?

If you average out the number of abortions since legalized with the number of people who died of disease and such BEFORE the onset of modern medicine, I'll bet it comes to a fairly even point.

No, the problem with illegal immigration is that Mexico pretty much sucks and we've always touted ourselves the land of opportuntity. Everyone wants a better life.

What a bunch of dimwits.

[Crandor]

11. "shortage of workers" = not enough poverty

The Right's hatred of abortion was never about "life", that's just what they tell the sheep. It's all about making sure there's a nice big underclass for them to hire from at low wages. Rich people aren't affected by an abortion ban since they can just take a "vacation" where it's legal.

[wicket]

13. Ain't that the truth

Rich people aren't affected by an abortion ban since they can just take a "vacation" where it's legal.

Sad but true - it's the same type of people who think the only moral abortion is THEIR abortion.

[Iris]

14. So a woman should be forced to carry a child to term so that it can be

exploited by US businesses? That's just disgusting. I'm surprised they left out the idea that it also gives Bushie and his ilk less cannon fodder to send overseas to fight their oil wars.

[wicket]

15. It's disgusting and infuriating

It's nice to know I'm only a baby incubator to them :grr:

[Iris]

25. yes and your child is only a cog in their machine.

[Goblinmonger]

16. Yeah, but abortion HAS lowered the crime rate.

And in case you are all satire impared :sarcasm:

[wicket]

19. off topic

I believe you have my stapler! :P

[Goblinmonger]

22. I was specifically told I could keep my stapler.

Love that movie. I actually own a red Swingline. It's right next to my computer right now. Little bit of Trivia, Swingline didn't make a red version of their stapler before the movie. They just painted one to distinguish it. After the movie ran, Swingline was flooded with requests for their red stapler that they decided to make a special edition. Specifically aimed at nerds like me.

[Iris]

28. what movie is that from?

[wicket]

29. Office Space

It's hilarious :rofl:

[fudge stripe cookays]

37. "I asked for a Mai Tai, and you brought me a Pina Colada....

and I said no salt...NO salt!"

:D

[wicket]

44. "Well, just a second there, professor....

...We, uh, we fixed the *glitch*. So he won't be receiving a paycheck anymore, so it'll just work itself out naturally."

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I'm going to have to watch this movie again this weekend, it's only been around for a few years but it's already such a classic! :D

[Tyrone Slothrop]

31. How is that sarcasm or satire?

The authors of Freakonomics seem pretty definitive on that point (that abortion has lowered the crime rate).

[Goblinmonger]

33. Post Hoc Fallacy

How do they explain themselves out of a million different spurious relationships?

You don't think that argument is just patently racist?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

38. That's all covered in the book

Have you read it?

How many PhD's do you have?

Just curious... I have a scientific background. Their methods seemed sound, and I try not to argue with numbers.

Numbers can't really be racist, anyway. Do you feel that stats showing that African Americans tend to make less money than whites are "racist"?

[Goblinmonger]

40. Is this some post-grad pissing contest?

"That's all covered in the book" seems like a pretty simplistic response to a complex problem. If it's in print, it can't be wrong?

Check out this site. Seems they played pretty fast and loose with their numbers.

http://www.isteve.com/abortion.htm

[raccoon]

18. What a crock. As Gloria Stivik once told Archie Bunker,

"That's convoluted logic."

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

20. 44 million missing blue-eyed, blonde, bed-pan emptiers!

Oh, the horror!

Every patriotic woman should start churning out ALL-AMERICAN (aka white) babies to pick lettuce, mow lawns, scrub floors, and all the other swell jobs that those evil brown people are doing.

[ProfessorGAC]

24. The Number Is A Lie, Too

There have not been 44 million elective abortions in the United States since Roe v. Wade. Per the CDC website, and the data in the Statistical Abstract of the United States, that number includes every single case of abortion, spontaneous, medical necessity, and elective. In other words, the lady who loses a fetus due to a car accident, counts in that number. The lady who must have an abortion because of internal bleeding due to a failing pregnancy, counts in that number. A lady who loses a baby due to some other medical procedure needed during a later point in the pregnancy is counte.

The 44 million is a made up number. In fact, when examining SAUS numbers from before Roe v. Wade, compared to those after, the actual number of medically safe, elective abortions is under 1/3rd of this value. So, apparently morality allows for lying if you think you have a higher purpose. Which makes these idiots guilty of moral relativism. But, of course, they HATE moral relativism.
The Professor

[gollygee]

21. WHAT?

OMG.

Beyond the ridiculous comparison, it sounds like he's lamenting the end of feudalism.

[donsu]

26. loony idea - what! they want forced pregnancies? that's what pro life is

pro life is forced pregnancies

hatred of women

[Norquist Nemesis]

27. ARGH!!!! No, it just couldn't POSSIBLY be the people that are

hiring them! That's just not possible!

Unbelievable! Glad to see that the Democrats refused to sign off on it.

:argh:

[depakid]

30. "To be honest, I think it's a little delusional...."

Do you think?

What the hell is wrong with people there?

Some kind of collective insanity. Things like this reinforce my decision to get my ass abroad next year.

[kitkat65]

32. Republicans: Saving the lives of the unborn cogs

That's all we are to these kind of people. Fuck them.

[KamaAina]

34. Wrong again, Kemo Sabe. As all good Kool-Aid-drinking righties should know,

the Clenis is entirely to blame for illegal immigration. And abortion, for that matter. :sarcasm:

[tigereye]

35. um, I think it might be the low pay

funny how that didn't enter their minds....


44 million? maybe 44 millon sperm.... ;)

[boolean]

39. LOL!!!!

Two issues morphed into one! :rofl:

[mondo joe]

41. "Oh my sweet unborn baby - someday you can pick lettuce for $2 an hour

instead of illegal immigrants."

[treestar]

42. They are probably too dumb to realize they as much as admitted that

the illegal alien labor is needed, then. In which case refusing to legalize them is in bad faith.

Yet those aborted people would presumably be doing the same jobs. No need to deport them. Or desire to. Because they presumably all would be white?

[Left Is Write]

43. I am utterly stunned.

I'm sure there is NO CONNECTION at all between poverty-level wages and any lack of available resources. :eyes:

Let's just take all those welfare recipients - most of whom are children - and send 'em to labor camps. Good grief.