Former President Bush Blames ‘Bloggers’ for ‘Ugly’ Political Climate

[kpete]

Former President Bush Blames ‘Bloggers’ for ‘Ugly’ Political Climate

Last night on Fox News, former President George H.W. Bush said the current political climate has “gotten so adversarial that it’s ugly.” Asked to offer an explanation for why there is this “incivility,” Bush pinned the blame on bloggers. “It’s probably a little worse now given electronic media and the bloggers and all these kinds of things,” he said.

VIDEO: http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/14/hwbloggers/

Also, Bush revealed that he enjoys using “the email” but lamented that his son, President George W. Bush, cannot for fear that the emails would get subpoenaed. Bush worried that presidents who used email would be forced to prove “that you were telling the truth and all this stuff.”

[AndyA]

1. I wonder which one of the Internets the elder Bush uses?

Does the email work better on a particular internet? :rofl:

[blm]

34. And what about the RW talkradio that ushered in Gingrich-era? No complaints

about that, eh, Poppy?

Fock off ASSHOLE - and take all your loved ones with you - and that includes any Democrat who kisses your FASCIST ass.

[malaise]

46. Fugg him

his son, Fox, Rush and all of the right wing media. Liberal bloggers merely exposed their hypocrisy so poppy is upset because the people were not fooled by RW media hacks.

[liberaldemocrat7]

152. George Herbert Hoover Bush left his fighter plane crew to die.

Instead of landing his plane in the water, George Herbert Hoover Bush ejected from his plane during World War II and left his crew to drown in the plane that got hit.

Experts say that if Bush had stayed in the plane and maneuvered it to hit the water on a more straight angle he would have saved himself and his crew. But no, not for the elite privileged Bush family.

John F. Kennedy proved a real hero during World War II. His Pt boat got destroyed but he helped his men get to safety.

Something about Republicans and their mean selfish actions that do not bode well for others.

[malaise]

159. No surprise n/t

[Ferret Annica]

192. In the Alex Jones Kennedy II video, he makes a good case

that GHW Bush helped assassinate Kennedy.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4315024059102108031

[Black Adder]

203. Agreed... Could GHWB be even dumber than is dumbass son?

Everytime I'm in the States during the past 15 years and turn to any AM station it seems like there's a right wing wack job (usually a ex-con or dope addict) spewing nothing but hate towards the "evil, traiterous" LIBERALS...
BTW - I don't think there were any "bloggers" in the early, mid or even late '90's..

[The Backlash Cometh]

73. Poppy just doesn't like it when the public gets a voice.

He's relied on abject obedience from the minions, and this "adversarial" process just is too unsettling for him. Someone should tell him that America has two faces.

[wordpix]

76. He also doesn't like his forbears' Nazi past coming to light--Prescott's fortune being tied

to Nazis doesn't look good for all the public to see.

[iamahaingttta]

140. You mean like this?

http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm#Table

Scary how easy it is these to share information, isn't it, Poppy?

[DaveJ]

91. More than two, actually, but unfortunately the others are silenced.

nt

[Skittles]

98. republicans rely on abject ignorance too

most people, if they knew how republicans really operate, would not only not vote for the bastards, they would want to see them IN JAIL

[The Backlash Cometh]

120. What scares me is that they DO know how they work.

The currents of cronyism run deep, and people who otherwise seem like good people, accept alot of crookedness because they think that someday they too will profit from their connections. I see it in my neighborhood everyday, but I'm willing to accept that my neighborhood is more crooked than most.

[Skittles]

133. I'm reminded of the so-called "fiscal conservatives"

to me they are just greedy bastards who want to pay less taxes but expect all cases of child abuse to be thoroughly investigated and expect the police to show up at their doorstep promptly at any hour of the day if called for help. The kind of people who balk at "welfare moms" but give a pass to 4 billion dollars a month for a useless war. YES. I think many conservatives are willing to overlook absolute corruption in the delusion of "more money in my pocket".

[2Design]

154. watching news and people in slums around the world reminds me

usa is spending money it does not have on bombing people who did nothing to us - we have wasted more money time and lives for this useless war while creating more enemies who have watched usa citizens torture, kill, and maim their love ones while putting on a kangaroo court trial for the man these conservatives funded and gave WMDs - I scream at the TV and throw my hands up over the damage they have done to the world - how anyone voted for a republican this election is beyond my comprehension - And yet this is suppose to be a christian nation - but they do not follow christ teachings in anything

[butterfly77]

217. Thank you ...

my thoughts exactly, I have always known that it was bad, but since the republicons and bushco have come into power the world the world really seems as though it is a different place. I can't understand why some in the other countries hate america. They don't really hate america though,they hate what a large amount of americans are now beginning to see these are the most hateful,lying,greedy,evil,meanest,selfish people I have ever seen. No matter how much they have and they want more and they don't want others to have any, I go to bed each night shaking my head and praying for their demise... These people are unbelievable and they think that everyone is beneath them...

[yurbud]

100. yeah, how many of us have said republicans should be shot or Tim McVeigh should have bombed

the NY Post?

And for the tards at the NSA reading this, I am not advocating that but simply modifying what Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly and the like have said.

[SharonAnn]

181. The Willie Horton negative ad guy? He's complaining?

[elehhhhna]

45. He uses the dump truck one. Might upgrade to the tubes soon, though.

[Sapphocrat]

66. The same one as Ted Stevens.

You know, the one that's a series of tubes.

[WinkyDink]

196. Only when you use The Google.

[CatWoman]

2. At first glance

I thought this headline read: Former President Bush Blames ‘Boogers’ for ‘Ugly’ Political Climate

It makes about the same sense.

[CrazyOrangeCat]

11. Perhaps he's seen the pix . . .

. . . of his dimwitted boy, picking his nose at a Rangers game.

THAT is some ugly politics . . .

:o

[Subdivisions]

36. So what he's really saying is that he doesn't like the idea of

John Q. Public (read: Kos, DU, el al.) being able to express his dissenting opinion in public. To them, it's dangerous for the populace to be allowed to express itself, especially if that expression is in opposition to their master plan.

[Lil Red]

223. Now, that's just plain funny...

I don't care who you are!
:rofl:

[DrDan]

3. heaven forbid that we would expect junior to tell the truth

[The Wielding Truth]

220. Yep. "Telling the truth and all this stuff" is so "old law". Not to us!

[rsmith6621]

4. Blame George Jr Daddy...

He runs the other nets called the internet...:)

[BurtWorm]

30. Blame Daddy.

Lee Atwater was his boy.

[fooj]

5. "ugly"...just as FR!

What a complete ass.

[texpatriot2004]

6. Yeah, him and Judith Miller. Makes me proud to be a blogger. nm

[napi21]

7. The political climate has been ugly long before blogs were around!

Sure, it's gotten worse, but that's not the bloggers fault, it's HIS SON'S FAULT! Shrub and his cohorts in crime!

[radfringe]

187. just shows how influencial the internet has become in politics

dirty or not. Blogs and the internet as a whole have become a new factor in politics.

Prior to the internet, the only "news" people were able to get was limited to newspapers (mostly local), TV or the radio. And most of these stories were not original reporting as they relied on other news outlets, basically regurgitating the same story.

With blogs or the internet in general - people are able to access and read articles from a "brazillion" different sources and follow up with discussions/commentary.

This increases interest and participation in the poltical arena by THE PEOPLE - in a democracy - this is good when people are informed and understand the issues.

[John Q. Citizen]

8. "Electronic media" Is that code for Faux News?

[texpatriot2004]

9. The * family never takes responsibility for anything nm

[niyad]

10. hey, george, if a person is actually TELLING the truth, then there shouldn't

be that much of a problem, now should there? on the other hand, I seriously doubt that anybody in your family, or indeed, anybody with an "r" after their names, KNOWS what truth is.

[tandot]

12. Bloggers? Is that Rove's new nickname? Whatever happened to turd-blossom?

[Matariki]

125. !!!!!

:rofl:

[BOSSHOG]

13. Of course no one in the current criminal administration is

responsibile for any of the incivility occuring in our country today. Okay I'll play the silly game. The republican party and radical christian clerics are the number one and number two reasons for any and all incivility in our country today.

And heaven fucking forbid that a president might be forced to prove he is/was telling the truth. bush isn't using email because he doesn't know how to. All he knows how to do is lie and get our kids killed. How's that for fucking civility daddy? You and your kind are what's fucking broke in the civility engine.

[InternalDialogue]

14. "Bloggers" = citizens

Those who hold secrets at the same time they hold public office fear nothing more than the citizens they serve demanding access to their own government.

It's not the bloggers responsible for the "ugly" climate, Mr. H. W. Bush. It's the lack of accountability that has activists riled up. As former head of the CIA, you know that. It's called blowback.

[nashville_brook]

59. word

[SoCalDem]

70. They "liked' the bloggers when their crew went after Rather

actually called them geniuses :)

It should surprise no one when the republican "flipflop"..

he who calls it..DID it :)

[wisteria]

15. No sir, you are wrong, it was your son and his turd blossom. n/t

[Gregorian]

16. Barbara made you say that! Didn't she!

She put you in her famous hammerlock. George, you get yourself on Fox right now! I won't have Junior subjected to this kind of behavior. He has a beautiful Bush mind. We can't have this.

[Kber]

17. Yeah - 'cause that Willie Horton ad was so fucking polite.

[stanwyck]

87. Ha!

And George, Sr. and George, Jr. always try to act so bemused and patrician about all the nastiness. Like they're above it all and have absolutely nothing to do with what some "rogue employees" carried away with their own exurberance might have done.
Then, the Bushies will solemnly swear to "get to the bottom" of the misdeed. Only they never do.

[formercia]

93. They wouldn't soil their hands with such truck

leave that to lowly tradesmen....

[Marnieworld]

104. It was practically pretty. eom

[madmusic]

18. Bullshit! Before there were blogs:

http://www.propagandacritic.com/articles/examples.newt.html">Propaganda Critic: Examples > How Newt Gingrich used these techniques

(Yes, I post this link at every opportunity. Down with Gingrich!)

[niyad]

19. george, your problem with bloggers is that they cannot be controlled,

and therefore, your lies and bs are spread far and wide. wahhhhhhhhhhh.
if all of you weren't so busy lying all the time, you wouldn't have to worry about citizen journalism.

[Mz Pip]

20. Is Rush a blogger????

or Ann Coulter? or Sean Hannity? Give me a friggin break. Nothing beat the vitriolic crap that comes out of their mouths.

Georgie must be really paranoid or else he is a chronic liar (these thing may not be mutually exclusive) if he's afraid to use email because he would be forced to tell the truth. Seems to me the leader of the free world should be telling the truth at all times. But maybe my standards are too high.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[Uncle Joe]

21. Bloggers = American People

and we are not loved by Bush the lesser.:cry:

[truedelphi]

101. You are so right! In the final analysis

If you be hating them internets, you be opposing democracy

[Lone_Star_Dem]

22. He's close to right

Bloggers and the internet make it very difficult for them to sneak things past "we the people" anymore. It also gives a media for spreading the sins of their past.

Nothing could be much worse for his family than an electorate educated with facts.

[jaysunb]

127. Thanks...

now I don't have to post this obvious truth !

[civildisoBDence]

23. Damn those Internets for letting the peasants have a voice!!!

The simple answer to GHW's assertion comes straight from two horses asses' mouths:

"Go fuck yourself," "major league asshole."

Newsprism

[ps1074]

24. Bloggers blame former president Bush's semen

for ugly political climate

[Arkansas Granny]

25. I'm not surprised that he would blame the bloggers. He couldn't

admit that jr. (despite his claim of being a uniter), Fox News and the RW talking heads are responsible for the biggest portion of the blame. All they have done for the past 6 years or longer is name-calling, ridicule and downright lies to instigate a hatred between the parties that has never been so deep.

[Norquist Nemesis]

26. Tomorrow he'll blame Al Gore for inventing the internets n/t

[gratuitous]

27. Oh golly, fight fair!

Don't you Democrats know that you're supposed to just take your daily beating from the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly? Sure, you're allowed to come out with a book describing their inaccuracies a couple of years after the fact, for all the good that that will do. But the daily instant analysis and talking points are the sole province of such guardians of civil discourse as Michelle Malkin, Anne Coulter and Pat Buchanan.

Boy, if there's one thing Republicans hate, it's anything like a level playing field.

And why would George H.W. think that his son's emails wouldn't be protected by claims of executive privilege or unreasonable search and seizure? Oh yeah, it's because for the last 15 years the little gremlins of his party have been busy snooping into every corner of Democrats' lives, and turnabout is most certainly not fair play as far as Bush Sr's overprivileged ass is concerned. He can and must know everything about your personal business, but his is decidedly off limits, and his son made sure of that with his first executive order.

[OzarkDem]

128. Poppy and the GOP can dish it out

but they scream like babies when the talking points are turned back on them.

:nopity:

[TahitiNut]

28. Poppy Bush always blames anyone who disagrees with him for 'division.'

This is what first struck me as his fundamental corruption - smearing the "nay-sayers" like Spiro Agnew did. Poppy repeatedly embraced his 'base' as the "real Americans" and smeared anyone who disagreed as trouble-makers.

Until his demon spawn, nobody was as divisive, mean-spirited, and ugly as Poppy since Joe McCarthy. Poppy and Babs are the least "civil" pair in the White House ever ... until Junior and Pickles.

[Hamlette]

29. OMG, he's even further out of it than he was in 1992

1. He says W can't use email because it would get subpoenaed. Hello? What, letters on paper can get subpoenaed too. What he really mean to say it is too difficult to SHRED emails when they get subpoenaed.

2. "the email"? (sorry, snarky but I couldn't resist.)

3. And what in the hell did he mean by "presidents who use email will be forced to prove 'that you were telling the truth and all this stuff.'"
Are we destined to be ruled by republicans who are suffering from Alzheimers? What on earth is he talking about? HE IS INSANE!

So anything he says about bloggers is clearly as delusional as the rest of it. Someone obviously told him "its the bloggers" fault and that makes sense to him.

What? Bloggers are not...people? With opinions? Who have the right to voice their opinions? If you can sort through what is on "the Internets" and figure out what to believe and what to discard, you might end up sending powder to Jon Stewart.

I thought before I saw this that Poppy was better than W but who knows?

[louis-t]

65. Breaking: Poppy Still Amazed at Checkout Scanner

And still making excuses for his idiot son.

[stanwyck]

114. I'd forgotten about the scanner

Grocery shopping, like so many things, is for the little people. Or your "help". Ole George was always at an "Army-Navy" game when any dirty deal was happening. Like Iran-Contra. Yep. At an Army-Navy game.

[Mabus]

121. That was my first thought

Here's a guy that didn't know you could scan groceries worried about "electronic media and the bloggers and all these kinds of things..." Is he lamenting that news is reported almost instaneously these days? Is he pissed that we know and can catalogue statements that politicans and other make (in applicable formats: video, audio and print) and pass this knowledge on through blogs and e-mails? LOL. He's probably still mad that many those Foley chats surfaced or maybe he's upset that those Foley-related denials by the GOP were all over the place or maybe he's still pissed that we've got Babs' comments about Katrina victims being better off all over the internets.

But hey, look at it from his perspective, he does have an idiot son that he has to make B&W statements to, so the dim son will be able to understand him. He knows he can't tell the kid, "Yeah, go ahead and sign up for Fox News alerts" because the kid, I mean the pResident, might start signing up for other things or he might start forwarding FNC alerts to Karl with notes like, "Hey Karl, you're right, the American public is buying this crap." Or worse, el pretzeldente might start sending IMs to Condi or JimmyJeff that are similiar to the ones that took Foley down.

[Bullshot]

148. And his VP Dan Quayle was equally amazed at how the store's doors open by themselves!

[louis-t]

206. Haaaa!

[smb]

162. Yep

What he really mean to say it is too difficult to SHRED emails when they get subpoenaed.

He remembers what happened to Ollie North when his "deleted" e-mail was recovered from backups.... :argh:

[Swede Atlanta]

31. WRONG

Right Wing Talk Radio and hate TV (e.g. O'Leilly, Tweety, etc.) poisoned the well, not the bloggers.

[Xenotime]

32. I don't remember asking his opinion. He had his 1 term now he needs to be quiet.

[JudyM]

41. But somehow it's his turn at bat again.

[jsamuel]

33. Coming from him, that's a compliment.

[slaveplanet]

35. 1000 points of light

Ain't it a beautiful thing, Poppy!


Inaugural Address of George Bush

FRIDAY, JANUARY 20, 1989

I have spoken of a thousand points of light, of all the community organizations that are spread like stars throughout the Nation, doing good. We will work hand in hand, encouraging, sometimes leading, sometimes being led, rewarding.
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Nuff respect to Al Gore for the internets

[BlueStater]

37. WHAT?!

It was Bush Sr. who essentially started the nasty tone in politics today with his sleazy attack ads on Michael Dukakis. There's no doubt it's gotten even worse since then, though.

[tk2kewl]

38. I thought it was Clintons fault.

:shrug:
Or maybe the NYT?

[Deep13]

39. proposed copycat thread:

Former vice president Gore blames "polluters" for "warming" global climate.

[Minnesota_Lib]

40. Presidents...would be forced to prove “that you were telling the truth and all this stuff.”

Yes, George 41, the truth and all that kind of silly stuff are bad things indeed...especially for your son. :thumbsdown:

[chaska]

42. Well you can't really blame him. The US is democratic republic, NOT a democracy...

It's only right that he should tell us to sit down and STFU.

...Fuck him.

This is America, you dinosaur. YOU sit down and STFU. We'll take it from here.

[shadowknows69]

43. Hey Poppy?

Bite us. Its your spawn that is responsible for the ugly political climate.

[ronnykmarshall]

44. Oh please.

This is from the man that hired Lee Atwater?

[Raster]

183. Snap!!! Many may have forgotten Atwater, but I never will!!

The undisputed KING of dirty tricks. kkkarl rove is just a child compared to Atwater.

[RagingInMiami]

47. He's absolutely right

People like Chad Castagana do nothing but fill the Internet with hate.

[elehhhhna]

48. This quote proves he's senile:

...Bush worried that presidents who used email would be forced to prove “that you were telling the truth and all this stuff.”


What an idiotic thing for an ex CIA, ex Prez, Dad-of-a-bitch to say!

He's gone gaga.

[WinkyDink]

197. Oh, Poppy is an SOB also, for damn sure.

[JacksonWest]

49. Bloggers must be code for "Endless war that serves no point".

In related news, Bush blamed his daughters drinking problems on the fact that coke and pepsi have such a long, bitter rivalry that they have pushed away many potential customers with their personal attacks and negative commercials.

[nashville_brook]

62. bravo! and welcome to DU!!

bwahahahaha!
:evilgrin:

[KansDem]

50. He made this accusation on FoxNews?

Enough said...

[wicket]

51. Oh give me a freakin' break!!!!

Does he remember the shit the American Prospect printed during the 1992 election?!?! He's just making shit up, but what else is new?

[truth2power]

52. Isn't this the guy

who didn't know what a supermarket scanner was? Sheesh!

Poppy doesn't live in the real world. Like he would know anything about bloggers.

Hey, Poppy...Go away! And take all your Iran Contra felons from your "study group" with you! :mad:

[mtnester]

53. I will fix that attitude right now.....FUCK OFF old man

back to yer alternative reality..shoo...take Babs, pretzel boy and the vote thief with you.

[DUBYASCREWEDUS]

54. Time to

go parachute jumping!

[byronius]

55. 'Can't they just lay down and die? Why won't they die?'

Sounds like the Riddler.

[niallmac]

56. Participatory Democracy. A fascists nightmare.n/t

[indepat]

57. Well Bush I can take comfort that none of the making of the ugly political climate rests on the

shoulders of the uniter and decider who gave us massive budget deficits, a pre-emptive war, and a shredded Constitution. :eyes: :crazy:

[LeftishBrit]

58. I'm sure that autocratic rulers of the past felt just the same way about the invention of the

printing-press, and the spread of literacy.

[hfojvt]

60. admittedly both sides are kinda hate-mongers

Alot of GD is anti-Republican and Freeper-bashing instead of Pro-Democrat, and anything pro-Kerry or pro-Dean, gets alot of flaming arrows tossed at it, or gets ignored and unresponded to as we rush to toss another clever insult into the "Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot" thread of the day.

Then again, my LTTEs are usually the same way, more anti-Republican than pro-Democrat, because I may not know how to solve problems, but I do know that their 'plan' isn't going to do it, and in fact, is not even intended to do it, but is just meant to throw perks at their base.

It would be nice if we could have a top-ten list that praised Democrats and Democratic legislation.

[Generic Other]

61. So what's wrong with being expected to tell the truth?

"Bush worried that presidents who used email would be forced to prove 'that you were telling the truth and all this stuff.'"

Yes, avoid email. It makes lying so much easier! :eyes:

[Malidictus Maximus]

63. The elite

Just can't get with the program.

Ben Franklin said "Freedom of the press is limited to those who own one". Thank goodness now everyone owns the means to disseminate information worldwide.

[thereismore]

64. yer welcome, Mr. "president". nt

[connecticut yankee]

67. and of course

Karl Rove, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannitty and Lucianne.com had absolutely nothing at all to do with it.

[sui generis]

68. it couldn't be his Great Divider son by any chance?

the most partisan SOB president ever seated?

[Donnachaidh]

69. hey Poppy!

How many fingers am I holding up? :sarcasm:

[The Backlash Cometh]

71. Face it. The privileged class just don't like a leveled playing field.

They don't get rich unless they can screw people over easily, and get away with it.

What a whiny bunch, those Bushes are.

[arcane1]

72. arcane1 to Bush: Go fuck yourself

how's that for "ugly", asshole? :grr:

[Amonester]

74. poppy's just scared everything about the BFEE will become widely

known
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_oet&address=358x3087

And his idiotic (and criminal) son's approval of posting ultra-secret formulas about "how to make an atomic bomb" in Arabic (no less...) on the World Wide Web for months (only for "political gains" that ultimately helped in defeating his fellow repukes... ah-ah! What a "clever" move, indeed!!) :mad: sure must have benefited some of his own profiteering bidlesses, so in his beautiful (fascist) mind: nobody should ever "criticize" these "ugly" truths... :grr:

watta traitor :nuke:

[Time for change]

75. He would also say that

the American revolutionaries were responsible for the ugly political climate prior to our war for Independence.

And slaves and abolutionists were responsible for the ugly political climate prior to the Civil War.

Bloggers exercise their first amendment rights by using the Internet because they're pretty much shut out of being represented through our national corporate media (with a few notable exceptions, such as K.O.)

[blue sky at night]

77. cant anything be done.....

so we don't have to know the thoughts of America's Worst Family? (I am really getting tired of these folks) and why is it always, always, the messenger and not the message with them...do they ever learn??

[SoCalDem]

78. Why Bloggers? Why now?? Read this "Bail-out"..

Tuesday, February 22, 2005

Why Bloggers, why now...?

By SoCalDem


Hey Media....

You have fallen down on the job. You know it, and now you know that WE know you know it.

You flew too close to the sun, the wax melted, and ....there appears to be a parachute "malfunction"..Happy Landings, Icarus

........

For decades media had Carte Blanche to report on whatever they chose, and for the most part did it fairly well. I'm sure that when FDR was putting together the New Deal, there was a lot of media attention to the pros and cons of the programs he planned. I know that during the Kennedy/ Johnson/Nixon/Ford/ Carter/Reagan/Bush1/Clinton years, there was no shortage of critical press. They understood that it was their JOB to report on important legislation.

Presidents are not supposed to "like" the coverage they get. It is what it is. Administrations have always tried to divert attention from their failings and trumpet their successes, but it's the DUTY of the press to call equal attention to both.

The stakes are very high, and the public is starting to realize that this might be our "last stand" against a government run amok. Instead of having the press standing by as "the fly on the wall" recording what is happening, they have become little more than megaphones for the politik-speak coming from the White House.

The real irony here is that as things have gotten ever more serious, the press has turned tail and run the other direction. They insist on force feeding us celebrity drivel, as China "eats our lunch". We just have to study, in depth, the make up of the Jackson jury while jobs are leaking from our country like water through a sieve. Brad & Jen's break-up is "top of the hour news...every hour" while we rarely hear an up to date accounting of our war dead. Our lopsided practically militant legislature is dismantling our long held safety nets but we see smiling anchors bemused by the antics of water skiing squirrels, and skydiving Grandpas.

Instead of deliberate reporting and follow-up on important issues of our day, we are "treated" to pseudo-journo-spokes-folks who delight in telling us about THEIR lives and the books THEY have written. Whole "networks" are devoted to "news", and yet they seem to interview each other as often as they report the news.

That brings up a whole other point. Experts? Experts used to be just that. They did not serve up a political agenda with their science. The so-called experts who are foisted in our faces day in and out are little more than Think Tank Hacks who have sold out to the right wing machine. They are as believable as the tobacco executives who repeated one after another "I do not believe that nicotine is addictive". For a price, these experts will say whatever they are paid to say. We know it, and we are tired of the lack of diversity of thought.

Bloggers are just ordinary people who are tired of being lied to, and who are ashamed and embarrassed for our "media folks". For the most part, the on-air "talent" are people who had the advantage of a good education, are well paid, and should know better. It's like seeing the guy from school who got a PHD, working at Walmart.

We also "get it". We recognize the "code words" used in reporting the few news stories that get reported. We are ashamed of you because you are letting us down daily, hourly. You are our last hope for spreading truth and unvarnished facts, and yet you are usually first in line with lies, half truths and White House fax transcriptions.

Before you accuse the LEFT of being poor sports, I might remind you that "the left" controls NOTHING, and hasn't for a long time, so the "liberal bias" crap just does not pass the "smells like shit" test. Truth HAS no bias.

Our so-called media jumped on the war wagon with breathtaking gusto, never questioning the obviously bogus information, and yet had the guts to "be offended" when ordinary people started to take you all to task.

You are our "last man"..

We count on YOU to tell us what's going on. Sure, you all looked "cute" in your "war outfits", and it probably was great fun to race through the desert on tanks. You grabbed every lifeline the government tossed you as the reasons for war proved as solid as blobs of mercury. WE knew from Day One, minus 5 that the whole war was phony, and we are holding you responsible for a great part of the resulting carnage.

There was a window of opportunity when real reporting could have prevented the whole thing, and exposed the mess. We saw how you all enjoyed watching Colin Powell doing linguistic gymnastics at the UN, while the whole world laughed at us. Our media stuck their fingers in their ears and chanted la-la-la-la. You could not be bothered with mere facts.. The swooshy graphics were all ready.. the logos designed, and the measurements for your "war costumes" were already at the tailors.

and now we have arrived somehow, at Gannon/Guckert/Jeff/James/Cannon/Bulldog/BoyWonder.. whatever-the-hell he calls himself today. Get a grip people.. It's NOT about the sex (although he flaunted it).. It's about the LYING... (Now where have we heard that canard?) and it's about the LACK OF SECURITY at the White House, and the EASY ACCESS that a male prostitute could get, and yet legitimate news people have difficulty getting.

We are spending billions of dollars on Homeland Security, and yet our own White House seems relatively INSECURE.

The Blogosphere is being covered now, out of obvious desperation on your part, but you are covering it in your usual dimwitted way. Turn the microscope around. You should be focused on:

Why can ordinary citizens with a computer be able to dig up facts that are "unknown" to people with degrees in journalism?

Why is the general public MORE aware of the undercurrents of stories than the mainstream press?

Why are bloggers meticulously careful in the sourcing of their material, providing voluminous links, while "real journalists" are the ones "just making stuff up" and claiming "confidentiality" when they get caught?

What's it TO you if real people have opinions too? Are OUR opinions less valid because we are the consumers of news, instead of the ones asking the "non-questions".?

Why are the relatively FEW opportunities afforded journalists WASTED with inane "questions"? I don't care what he eats, how fast he bikes, how many armadillos he fed Barney, or any of the other crap you guys ask him.

In case you have not noticed, we have some serious issues , and they deserve your full attention. If you cannot do it, please find someone else to do your job.

We have "moved on"..

[Nikki Stone1]

81. Bloggers are part of the alternative media and send the truth out far and wide

Hence the fear

[Raster]

79. So old man bush* starts the spin to disassociate bush* and buchCo* from

the current abysmal state of affairs that is COMPLETELY OF THEIR MAKING. Nice try, Poppy. You weren't bitching about the negativity when it was helping your over-age, juvenile delinquent illegally seize and maintain power, now were you? Of course not. It's all fun and games until a bush* has to accept responsibility. And accept responsibility you must, you tired old fascist fossil. If not for your interference, Albert Gore, the lawfully elected President of the United States would probably still be in the White House. Instead of the visionary man of the people we lawfully elected, we were saddled with your first-born failure. I for one am sick and tired of the boil on the public butt called bush*. If it isn't one of your spawn stealing money from the public in one scheme or another, than it's another stealing votes. Simply put, the family bush* are parasites. Whether laundering blood money for the nazis or painting a pretty face on Saudi terrorism, you've existed for years by selling your souls to the highest bidders.
:kick:ELEVEN!

[Beacho]

80. By "Ugly" he means

The he and the rest of the patrician class are losing control and can't hide behind corporate media,a s in the past.

If I were in the BFEE I'd be hatin' on the internets and bloggers too.

[treestar]

86. You are right. They have been used to shaping public opinion

to their liking via the mainstream media. Now that everyone has direct access and we can talk to each other and point out the inconsistencies, they don't have the kind of control over public opinion that they used to. And they haven't gotten that yet, so we see the spectacle of how they try to control the masses and their frustration that they no longer can.

[Rosemary2205]

122. Absolutively!!!!

They are so desperate to do away with net neutrality and get corporate control of the net they can't hardly stand it.

[nealmhughes]

82. Rather reminiscent of the "outrage" of the Tories at Paine and other

writers of pamphlets...and those pesky round-robin letters and those doubly-dangerous "letters of correspondence" that got published by the colonial press by authors with noms de plume such as "Publius" and "A Citizen Farmer from New York."

[drone]

83. more blame somebody else game

Looks like more of the blame somebody else for the individuals failures. Even if they are invisible or in someones imagination.

[Richard D]

84. Wingnut definition of "ugly" . . .

. . . "those damn bastards are telling the truth."

[BootinUp]

85. Ugly campaign tactics are a Bush specialty, you ain't foolin anyone Poppy!

n/t

[drone]

218. I remember

I remember the Horton and Dukakis dirty tricks repukes used. And don't forget the dirty tricks against Muskie by Colson. My question is how can any one trust a repuke after their track record? They will pat anybody on the back with a dagger in their filthy hands.

[Marnieworld]

88. Silly me

I thought it was the secret spying of American Citizens that created the ugly climate.

I thought it was the revealed torture of prisoners by US citizens with the approval of leadership.

I thought it was the secret prisons and other outsourcing of torture.

I thought it was losing a whole American city and disregarding citizens dying from thirst and hunger while waiting for help to arrive which too often arrived too late.

I thought it was pretty ugly when the President was eating cake and fiddling a guitar while these citizens were drowning in their homes.

I thought waging a war of choice for reasons that turned out to be false and killing hundreds of thousands of people was pretty ugly.

I thought the political climate couldn't get uglier than when the president made jokes about the false reasons and laughed at the consqeuences.

I thought saying that Democrats were rooting for the terrorists was pretty ugly.

I thought calling the Geneva Conventions "quaint" was very unattractive.

I thought record Oil profits gauging consumers without controls or explanations super duper ugly.

I thought detaining people without due process is just plain old ugly.

I guess I was wrong. I guess it's only ugly to point these things out. I guess I'm just very unattractive.

[slestak]

89. Fuck that guy

and his Willie Horton ads. Dumbfounded by a supermarket scanner, and anyone is supposed to pay attention to anything he says about technology?

Fuck him.

[Politicub]

90. He needs to look in the mirror

or turn on hateful right wing talk radio. What as asswipe!

[redqueen]

92. That disingenuous motherf&#er!

He knows good and damn well who started this $#&*!

[wake.up.america]

118. What set me off more than anything was the attack on Clinton by the minions...

of Bush Jr. That really made me angry. A guy who had the love and respect of millions across the globe only to be replaced by a sub-moron after continuous unsubstantiated attacks on real estate dealings and then the Lewinsky affair, which was nobody's business except Bill, Hillary and Monica. They stated started the food fight.

If they want to get serious and start talking sense, I am all for it. But it seems the only way to get their attention is wallow in the mud with them. Bush and his gang of idiots should understand we are no longer putting up with their crap.

[19jet54]

94. Kill the messenger...

... yea, that freedom of speech & freedom of the press really screws up sneaky liars' plans; and keep voters in the dark too! (friggin democracy) :sarcasm: Karl Rove is innocent? :rofl:

[Skittles]

95. not as easy now for repukes to hide their bullshit

whiny assholes

[aggiesal]

96. Everything appeared to be working without a problem when we had the fairness doctrine...

But then Pres. Ronnie decided to give a gift to the GOP and oblished the fairness doctrine, as one of his last acts as president.
The GOP dominates the radio media for the next 15 years, with the likes of Lumbutt, Hatenity, and O'lielly. Then upstart Fox shows up and RW TV is born. Everything was RIGHT in the world. All the hate they had against LIBERALS and such.

Then we start to fight back. We start using the internet as our means of communicating, raise money for Dean and everyone starts to take notice. Air America hits the airwaves and the truth to power gets broadcasted.

Bill, Rush, & Sean have no answer, and their ratings start to fall.

'06 elections come around, and the GOP gets smoked. Suddenly it's our fault?
Rush admits he's lying "I won't carry the water for them anymore..."
And it's the blogger's fault?

Bush 1 needs to stop smoking what Jr. is using.

[ArbustoBuster]

97. Former President Bush Blames ‘First Amendment’ for ‘Ugly’ Political Climate

I'm sure Bush-41 would prefer if we all shut up and let him and his cronies run roughshod over our country. But that's not going to happen. People are out there finding and publishing the failures and felonies of the Republicans in general and the Bush Administration in specific, and the Internet is the medium for their message if the media won't cover it.

[brainshrub]

99. Woo Hoo!

I love the attention!

Thanks Bush!

[TommyO]

102. How dare people actually post their views! nt

[happydreams]

103. Come on Poppy keep running your senile mouth. I hope you

blurt out the truth about all the people you have killed over the years who tried to get the truth out about you and your fascist power lust. I'm hoping for a "Macbeth" type incident trying to wash the foul bloodspot out.

For starters tell us about the eight WWII era fascists you had to fire from your election campaign in 1988.

How you systematically went about murdering those who knew too much about the October Surprise (1980).

"Out, Out foul spot!"

[Epiphany4z]

105. ya ya

its the blogs not Rush, Courtler, and there type.....its not the fact that I have heard Rush say liberals should be obliterated and Ann say worse...naaa that wouldn't be it.

[dpbrown]

106. Setting up the atmosphere to label them "terrorists"

Fucking bastards.

[burythehatchet]

107. Willie Horton

[ashling]

108. Does his old man use the Google too?

Of course he would be at a disadvantage if he had to "proove he was telling the truth and stuff" -

That would be prooving a negative LOL

[Joanne98]

109. Oh yeah! Rush, Shaun and the haters on the radio had nothing...

to do with it. God bless the internet for making it possible for us to DEFEND ourselves. They haven't learned one single thing from this election. Bushco has been getting away with murder so long they think it's a God given right. I say don't even give them a chance to breathe. Pound them into the ground until they never get back up. Evil bastards!

[Imalittleteapot]

110. Old man looking for excuses.

Politics has always been nasty.

I hold the Bush's - both of them - responsible for the below the belt demonizing of the opposition and the civil war going on in the Congress and this country.
The Bush's are not uniters.

If anything, bloggers bring sanity to arena...allowing the exchange of ideas, a search for the truth, and forums to vent frustration that would otherwise be taken out on husbands, wives, children and pets.

Does Poppy consider Lee Atwater and Karl Rove to be bloggers? If so, then his statement could be true.

[personman]

111. How dare the people get a voice! n/t

[ooglymoogly]

112. translation...without the internets no one would have

ever discovered what an ignorant crook my son is or what crooks my family are.

[librechik]

113. The messenger is ugly, not us. Kill the messenger!

go back to the 20th century wherre you didn't belong, Daddy-O

[RoccoR5955]

115. And I thought...

It was all Clinton's fault!

[GeorgeGist]

116. The Bushies are great at passing the buck...

but Poppy and Babs, with a little help from family and friends, created the Worst President Ever.

[Starlight]

117. Damn those informed people with opinions.

[Beetwasher]

119. I BLAME POPPY BUSH FOR NOT PULLING OUT

N/T

[happydreams]

145. One look at momma Babs and he "shrunk" from the task.

[UrbScotty]

123. His son would blame Clinton (nt)

[David Zephyr]

124. Duh! What about what I call the Devil and His Blue Dress? Matt Drudge.

Talk about ugly.

[AntiFascist]

126. and getting uglier wrt Baker, eh Poppy? n/t

[TomClash]

129. Maybe it IS the Bloggers!

Nah, it's the BFEE.

[cabral]

130. These Hypocrites GOP Hates the Truth!

Don't hate man, all your lies are on the Open... bunch of fuckin hypocrites

[Infinite Hope]

131. Out of context...

he said that worsened the climate. In other words, it catalyzed it. It doesn't mean he's blaming bloggers for the climate itself. Let's focus back on real issues.

[WinkyDink]

198. I think we get what Poppy means well enough. He wants us to SHUT UP.

And BE shut up, in Gitmo.
Don't kid yourself.

[knowledgeispwr]

200. Yes, but

Yes, but he's saying that the climate, as it is now, is due to the bloggers, not that they created it out of nothing. In some ways, the climate has always been there, so he is blaming the bloggers. But in any case, this is General Discussion, the forum for things like this, the pressing and the not so pressing.

[Bake]

132. Blame Raygun. End of the Fairness Doctrine.

That gave rise to Hate Radio and the one person, Limpballs, who is responsible for the breakdown in civility in US politics. All the rest of the RW haters took their cue from Limpballs, who took his cue from Raygun.

Bake

[NEDem]

134. Of course it couldn't be AM radio.

Nah, spewing hate for everything that isn't white and christian 24/7 couldn't possibly be the problem. Amazing how they ignore the obvious.

[tavalon]

135. Wow, we have arrived!

Yeah, it's bullshit but what the heck. We might as well take the honor. We are now strong enough to actually influence public opinion.

[HappyWeasel]

136. Well, its in!!!

The right, all the way up to the president fears the liberal blogging movement.

[warrens]

137. I'd say the Nazis who represent the Repukes started things

Pigboy, Hannity, Coulter, Barbara Olson the Unlamented, Vickie Toesing, O'Reilly, et al far precede the bloggers. You wanna see uncivility, old man, just keep supporting nazis like your punk kid.

[baby_mouse]

138. Hideous creature.

His renewed presence is Unwelcome.

[Kindigger]

139. Just stopping by to add my 2 cents

FU OLD MAN. Go home and take your worthless son with you.

[iamahaingttta]

141. The man who owes his political career...

...to James Baker and Lee Fucking Atwater is lamenting the "ugliness" of today's political climate?
Poppy, you and your boys INVENTED the ugliness of today's political climate!!

(I like the comment above that just read "Willie Horton.")

“It’s probably a little worse now given electronic media and the bloggers and all these kinds of things,” he said.

This is Poppy's 21st century Grocery Store Scanner moment...

[codjh9]

142. As 'ugly' as all of the evil, lying, misleading, wrong, BULLSHIT they do?!?!?!

[demdiva]

143. Like it has NOTHING to do with his son's best political friend Karl Rove

puh.....llllease

[Supersedeas]

144. Forced to tell the truth.....ewwww....scary for the lil' Chimp

[sakabatou]

146. Oh sure... blame the bloggers

Your son never had any part in this...

[Arugula Latte]

147. Good thing Rush, Hannity, Coulter, Savage, O'Reilly et. al. didn't contribute to it, eh?

Hypocrite, thy name is Republican.

[Morgana LaFey]

149. Well, you know, it is bloggers' fault in a way

there they are, willing and able to not just TELL the truth (and provide some darn fine analysis), but get it out to the millions poste haste. Ne'erdowells can't hide their bad deeds behind a stenographic or somnambulant press any more. We have thoroughly democratized "the press" and made it ours (or rather built one to supplant the one that wasn't working any more) -- only the MSM press doesn't quite realize it or that their fate goes the way of the dinasaur.

Yep, I think it's the bloggers' fault too.

LONG LIVE THE BLOGOSPHERE!!!! :party:

[krkaufman]

150. Clueless or deceitful. Neither is an admirable quality, HW. n/t

[StrictlyRockers]

151. WAH, WAH, WAH! Have a wah-burger and some french cries, George.

Wah, wah, wah...the bloggers are spoiling all our fun! Wah, wah, wah...

They are so fugged. We have the power. Everything is going to be alright.

SR

[B Calm]

153. I blame cheap labor conservatives!!

[dflprincess]

155. If you don't have anything to hide why would you worry about

your emails being subpoenaed?

[Imagevision]

156. junior really needs to be impeached!! - so dad could get to see the final outcome while he can...

[LittleClarkie]

157. This coming from a man who doesn't know how much a gallon of milk costs

Like he's even SEEN a blog.

[Thirtieschild]

158. And this from the man who gave us Willie Horton

[YellingTuna]

160. Typical

Typical of the GOP, go against freedom of speach.

[Downtown Hound]

161. Actually, I'm blaming that Nazi spawn you call a son

for the current political climate, you ass hole piece of shit.

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

163. Deny, distort, distract

These scummy RW bastards have been hate mongering since before I was born.

Then they say it's somebody else's fault.

The current climate is mostly because of TruthlessLeader and the toxic waste dump that is hate radio and cable "news".

[Neshanic]

164. What would he know from the internets? He had no clue what a store scanner was.

Remember that, Poppy the shopper stunned that supermarkets had scanners. You can't get more out of touch than that. It's now a family tradition it seems.

[Divine Discontent]

172. I'm shocked

that W knows what an iPod is... thanks to his daughters I'm sure. Could you imagine Shrubya trying to work a new cell phone or install a computer program??? lol



www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <<-- antibush prodem stickers/shirts

[Casablanca]

165. "Hypocrisy, thy name is Bush." - Lee Atwater's ghost. nt

[Anakin Skywalker]

166. Why Our Beloved Leader Fear Them INTERNETS? Why You Hate America, Leader?

[Beelzebud]

167. Do these fuckers even remember what they did in the 90's?

[scarface2004]

168. hey ghwb.....suck my cock!!

ugly? what s ugly?

[YDogg]

169. It's the rove, stupid.

[roguevalley]

170. the first time he hit someone besides his wife, he was uncivil. he's

so utterly riddled with disease and dementia, I would be afraid to stand next to him.

[Divine Discontent]

171. SCREW THE BUSH!

he hates it showed all the republican SHIT they've been doing, and captured video mistakes, that all could see countless times before the election.

let em try and shut down the net... talk about CHAOS!

Civility my butt! H.W. was nothing but hateful about Al Gore in 92 calling him "moon man" and insulting his concern for the environment and mocking him in redneck areas as being a crazy liberal kook, he has no right to claim incivility on the part of bloggers.



www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <<-- antibush prodem stickers/shirts

[Czolgosz]

173. Father of man who owns slaughterhouse blames "bloggers" for superfluity of flies

[earth mom]

174. Net Neutrality ya'll!

Instead of placing the REAL blame on the corporate media whores like Faux or lying bastards like Rush Limbaugh or Bill O'Lielly or fundie nutjobs like Pat Robertson for the all ugliness where it squarely belongs, they place the blame on people on the internet speaking the truth! :grr:

That's why Net Neutrality must be a priority!

[liberal N proud]

175. New math: FOX + Bu$h = bullshit

It doesn't matter whichever bu$h is speaking then you throw FOX in the equation.

Besides, does anyone here think bu$h sr. knows what a Blog actually is?

[mark wayne]

176. Bloggers my ass! Karl Rove.

That son-of-a-bitch and his puppet master are an embarrassment to the great state of Texas.

[thickerstrings]

177. Not all that surprising

As if more proof were needed that Bush is a fucking clueless moron.

[zulchzulu]

178. Those damn people expressing themselves is the problem!

Blaming the bloggers for Chimpy's problems is like blaming the oven for the lousy meal.

[livingonearth]

182. Or to put it another way:

blaming the patrons for the chef's mistakes.

[neuvocat]

179. If he were serious about that...

then perhaps he would have put a stop to the comic book attacking Mike Dukakis during the 88 Republican Convention:

http://www.subgenius.com/subg-digest/ancient/0316.html

[Imagevision]

180. Ole man Bush knows he can squeeze another 2 years from golden boy

so he's stepping back into the light of things... this isn't too fucking obvious!

[JAbuchan08]

184. In other words the diffusion of media has made it more difficult

for them to spin the media.

[emdee]

185. Especially the right-wing bloggers who send out white powder!! nt

nt

[nolabels]

186. Gee, maybe should also accept giving up our civil liberites.............

because who really needs them anyway?

Lets just give that three big cheers to LEGALIZING torture and declare it to be the new fangled way x(

[deacon]

188. 0/~ Meet the old boss, same as the new boss.......

[William769]

189. And Faux news had nothing to do with it?

:eyes:

[aquart]

190. Now can we stop pretending that the elder is a step up in class?

George didn't learn to be a selfish, worthless POS just at Mommy's knee.

[symbolman]

191. And that has nothing to do with a certain

FREEPER who just got popped for TERRORIZING about Five hight profile Liberals -- he'll probably get the congressional Medal of Honor for that...

[curiousdemo]

193. Say Daddy Bush....

Who in HELL is responsible for this incivility....That Uniter not a Divider SOB or Your's!! This shit piss me off...It always someone else fault. Stop covering for this evil son of yours and have him except responsibility, in which he have never done in his life. You and George Washington err...excuse me...Mrs. Bush need to get a life!!!


:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

I feel better now...

[valerief]

194. Oh, sure, and his SON had NOTHING to do with. nt

[WinkyDink]

195. He can just STHU. Where, pray, was Poppy when HIS WIFE called

Geraldine Ferrarro a "rhymes with 'rich'"?
When HE called Clinton/Gore "Bozos"?
When HIS SON slimed McCain? Not to mention Democrats ("terrorists win")?

Don't get me started. Poppy's about as "civil" as a pig's arse.

[Historic NY]

199. I don't quite think he understands just what a blogger is....

or the concept. I also found it amusing that he said he uses e-mail more these days. Most older "senior" letter writers will continue to use that medium, rather than clicking way on a keyboard. I say this because letter writing has a more personal touch that they usually want to convey. E-mails are not usually letters in their minds. This has been my experience with mentors or older colleagues in their 80's - 90's.

[eppur_se_muova]

201. Sad to see him turning on Jimmy-Jeff like that. Breakups can be so ugly. nt

[sinkingfeeling]

202. I guess Jr. calling 70% of Americans 'unpatriotic', 'terrorist enablers', and

'traitors' didn't contribute a thing.

[Canuckistanian]

204. Bloggers tell the truth and he thinks it's ugly

To paraphrase Truman.

[cyclezealot]

205. Newt Gingrich and the rigid right is when the uglyiness started.

Robert Michel and Tom Foley got along reasonably well. I think it has to do with the rigid rights agenda to destroy workers rights, and return America to the days of inequality before Civil Rights, worker protection, environmental regulation, rights to organize, and even the income tax. As some say, Repugs would like to return America to the days of William McKinley, when big business ran rough shot and everyone had to find for themselves. And everyone was broke but those who lived in the gilded cage.
And don't think it's just progressives vs regressives. Find an enemy of Grover Norquist's money machine and see how Repugs treat themselves when the attack a RHINO. ( Republican in Name Only)IT's vicious. They'd take us back to the days before Griswold vs COnnecticut. Better buy up those excess condoms before the religious right takes over.

[autorank]

207. Mission accomplished!

Good that means he thinks we have power and he's trying to preempt it.

The political environment is ugly because through a free internet people can get the truth
out about the very ugly world the greed and amorality have created.

What isn't ugly about world that is choking itself on its own refuse and creating scenarios where
climate change may end even our ability to survive as a species?

What isn't ugly about a world where we can 't even hold elections in this country without the fear
that they'll be stolen or, at the least, that in any given district, thousands of votes will be tossed
or shredded or simply "disappeared" in to the worst software coded in this country?

What isn't ugly about a world where the world's greatest nation is taken to war based on lies that
are universally known by lawmakers; lies which are ignored as those very same lawmakers vote for the
enabling of war because their political careers would be compromised to not do so?

What isn't ugly about a world where Gulf War I veterans have to fight like crazy to get their obvious
disabilities recognized by a government that sent them to that war?

Yes, Mr. * I, it's an ugly environment and you helped create it.

I'm glad to know that the truth is getting out.

[Mrspeeker]

208. LOL X-head of CIA

Blamming bloggers for the political climate.

[Raster]

210. The ULTIMATE irony: The "owner" and patron of kkkarl rove blaming

ANYONE ELSE for the ugly political climate. George H.W. Bush* is the original employer and patron saint of the rethuglican dirty tricks gang, going back to Lee Atwater. When Bush* the older bemoans the lack of civility and the ugliness what he really means is that he's pissed someone else is either using his tactics or found some one way around them. He's the man that hired rove as his son's political babysitter.

[Jon8503]

209. Bloggers are not responsible for the hate in incivility in politics.

The blame appears to be people like Limbaugh & Hannity who spouts hate all day long. Look at ann coulter (doesn't deserve capitalization of her name) who said the 9/11 widows were enjoying their husband's deaths. Sure there may be some bloggers who are guilty of crossing the line along with some of us. However, what I can remember and trying to be unbiased it comes from the right wing and the religious nuts. I too would like to see the hate politics go away but blaming bloggers is heading off in the wrong direction. Everyone needs to look in the mirror first before they start placing blame on someone for something.

[butterfly77]

219. Don't forget that long headed witch....

Laura whatever her name is that is one evil bitch, she tried to block dems from voting on election day.

[bobbie]

211. Ah, here come the attacks on the internet

Right on schedule

[Puglover]

212. Actually no Poppy.

The ugly political climate can be directly traced to that piece of excrement that your hag of a wife hatched 60 years ago and his thuggish criminal cabal of pals.

What utter bullshit. God I hate this fucking family! :mad:

[stepnw1f]

213. Coming from a Self-Appointed Fascist Dictator

I find his bitching rather ironic.

[progressoid]

214. Oh Sweet Jesus, I need to shower after that load of shit.

[antonialee839]

215. Poppy whines about incivility while on Fox News?

How rich is that? :rofl:

[butterfly77]

216. He hates that they can't hide their lies...

because we are everywhere and can spread the news fast. We are only telling the truth about his son:
HE IS ONE STUPID,ARROGANT MOTHERFUCKER!

[gaja]

221. I think they are upset that the propaganda isn't working anymore

exposing lies is easy even with the short term memory of an average citizen.

And all this information about Iran-Contra, Drugs, Prescott Bush, Skull & Bones etc

Or a nice Washington Times? It was easy to buy all newspapers in Washington from the streets by secret service agents but with bloggs?

www.bartcop.com/ wtpage1.gif

[aaronbees]

222. Well, that's called a participatory democracy, King George I

I mean really, how dare those people respond to the propaganda machine! :sarcasm: :nopity:

[deacon]

224. Like son like father? like father like son? blame blame blame

and blame. Everything new is old again.