Yavin4
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Tue Nov-14-06 02:22 PM
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The Republican Nominee for President in 2008 Will Be: Jeb Bush |
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The Republican nominee has to appeal to the social conservatives and to the big moneyed interests, and before last Tuesday, that was George Allen, but he imploded. That leaves Gingrich, Frist, and Romney as the only candidates that can appeal to both, but none of them have much national appeal. As for Rice, McCain, Guiliani, and Pataki, none of them appeal to the social conservatives and the gun nuts.
So, when you sort it all out, the only Republican that can appeal to the base and appease the big money crowd is Jeb Bush. I cannot think of another Republican that can do this.
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Tue Nov-14-06 02:24 PM
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1. It will be Romney out of that crowd. |
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But, I am expecting that Hagel will step up at some point.
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Tue Nov-14-06 02:29 PM
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4. Duncan Hunter announced he'll be exploring it as well |
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Said this to his constituents right before the election.
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Tue Nov-14-06 02:24 PM
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2. I agree - but I think Romney's appeal could grow |
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Tue Nov-14-06 02:25 PM
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3. The Problem There Is Name Recognition |
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Not many people even know who he is.
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Tue Nov-14-06 02:31 PM
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5. Romney is a mormon. It won't EVER happen. Bush? I think we're done with THAT last name... |
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Edited on Tue Nov-14-06 02:31 PM by truebrit71
...in politics for a while..
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Tue Nov-14-06 02:32 PM
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6. Romney's Mormanism will cause real problems in the Bible Belt. |
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The Fundies have a big problem with Mormanism.
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Tue Nov-14-06 03:48 PM
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I think Romney will not overcome that obstacle. The fundamentalist religions dislike Mormons...greatly.
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Tue Nov-14-06 02:34 PM
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The country will never elect another BFEE member to any national office.
There are just not enough stupid Americans for that to happen.
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Tue Nov-14-06 02:40 PM
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8. I think A BUSH/ RICE ticket would be the best thing to happen. |
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Tue Nov-14-06 02:45 PM
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I've heard from a couple of different sources that Romney's chances among the theocratic conservatives are slim to none. Many Evangelicals and Southern Baptists regard the Church of Latter Day Saints as a cult or teachers of "false doctrine." The Southern Baptist has a portion of its website devoted to teaching its members about cults and sects. See here for more detail: http://www.sbc.net/redirect.asp?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Enamb%2Enet%2Fsite%2Fpp%2Easp%3Fc%3D9qKILUOzEpH%26b%3D238383&key=cult&title=Patterns+in+the+Cults+%2D+NAMB%2Enet&ndx=SBC%2C+IMB%2C+NAMB%2C+ANNUITY%2C+LIFEWAY%2C+WMU%2C+ERLC%2C+SEMINARIES The republicons are going to have a real problem uniting behind a single candidate. The candidates palatable to the fundie types are not going to get an automatic pass from the other electoral constituencies. Bush's "compassionate conservatism" BS was blown away in Katrina's winds. The non-values voters are going to want to see a track record of competent governing.
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Tue Nov-14-06 02:47 PM
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10. I think their nominee will be Sam Brownback |
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no real reason, just a hunch. (but then, I also thought that OUR nominee would be Mark Warner, and that didn't pan out)
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Tue Nov-14-06 02:49 PM
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is now the most toxic name in politics. No way is it Jeb in 2008. I think Guiliani has a very good chance if he doesn't get destroyed by personal stuff. And it isn't only fundies and big money that vote in repub primaries.
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Tue Nov-14-06 03:03 PM
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12. You Forget The Gun Nuts |
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They will work against Guiliani.
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Tue Nov-14-06 03:10 PM
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13. They've already promised it to McCain |
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Rudy's in there just for show.
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Tue Nov-14-06 03:13 PM
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14. Jeb would have to change his name. |
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Outside of the hardcore, W-could-eat-a-toddler-in-the-Rose-Garden-and-it-would-be-excusable fundie base, no one would support a Bush for Prez in '08.
On the other hand, in 2000 I said no AWOL frat boy business failure with a history of drug and alcohol abuse could ever become President either, so what do I know.
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Tue Nov-14-06 03:16 PM
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15. Until He Is Eliminated, Jeb IS the One to Beat |
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Eliminating him at the last minute would be the best way to bollix up the entire GOP.
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Tue Nov-14-06 03:35 PM
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18. Do you live Florida by any chance? |
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If so perhaps you're suffering from some weird variant of Stockholm Disorder.
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Tue Nov-14-06 03:38 PM
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19. NO! Wouldn't Be Caught Dead In Florida |
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but GOP politicians and voters are creatures of habit. Their inertia, or lethargy, or lack of intellectual curiosity, call it what you may, is predictable.
That's why all the talk about Condi makes me laugh to tears. Only as a puppet for some cabal would she even stand a chance, and then only if she'd actually accomplished something this time around.
Well, the cabal is busy going further underground, Condi hasn't done squat, and the rest are either under investigation, or under indictment. It's a good day to be a Democrat!
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Tue Nov-14-06 03:18 PM
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16. Do you want to send the world into PERMANENT SHOCK? |
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Please don't inflict another Bush on us! I don't think we could survive another one! :scared:
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Tue Nov-14-06 03:19 PM
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17. That's just fine with ME! HE'LL LOSE! |
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I actually think Jeb realizes just how much the Americna people are fed up with his brother, and the Bush name in general. I don't think he'd even consider running!
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Tue Nov-14-06 03:43 PM
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20. all politics aside Jeb is a much better speaker than his brother |
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Forget politics for a second. Let's just compare the ability of Pres. Bush 43 to his brother Jeb Bush. Jeb is hands down a much better speaker. I don't agree some of the things he is saying, but he has a lot more charisma and he is better as far as how he looks on camera.
I think he will be smart and wait until 2012. McCain will probably win the nomination just like Bob Dole did. He kept trying and finally they said okay. I don't think McCain can beat Gore, Obama, Edwards, or Clark. John McCain is not a good speaker. This is a great time to get the White House back. Just understand that Jeb is probably waiting in the wings.
James jpwhite@okstatealumni.org
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Tue Nov-14-06 03:53 PM
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I agree, he has to have a 30 point IQ advantage on his brother ... I also agree that he won't be electable as the first name a ticket this next go around ...
HOWEVER, I CAN see the powers to be making him the mandatory VP for whoever commits to it, for the presidential nominee ... Seeing as he is floping around like a pathetic tramp in a bar with everyone he knows he needs to appeal to get elected at this point, I see McCain agreeing to have Jeb as his VP to get the nod ...
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Tue Nov-14-06 03:50 PM
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22. I think voters are tired of guys named "Bush" |
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In every election from 1976-2004, there has been a Bush or a Dole.
I think the Bush fatigue will extend to his little brother - which is probably why Poppy is running Junior's administration now, in a last-ditch effort to save the family name and create a dynasty.
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Tue Nov-14-06 03:52 PM
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23. If they picked Jeb Bush, that would be too easy for us. |
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I think the public is getting really tired of having a Bush in the White House. Having Jeb as the Republican nominee would be easier for us than running unopposed.
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Tue Nov-14-06 03:53 PM
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Jeb would be an excellent candidate for them. He comes across as a rational moderate, yet he's a rabid rightie. I think of all the right-wing candidates, I'd worry most about him. He would tap into a powerful fundraising organization, has really smart contacts, and has been a pretty successful governor by objective measures. The biggest problem for him is that people will be so sick of his brother, they might not be ready to stomach another Bush.
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Tue Nov-14-06 03:53 PM
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26. He hates Washington and has said repeatedly that he would not run |
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though his dad wants him too. I think the intent was for Jeb to run before Dubya did, but Jeb ain't cooperating.
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Tue Nov-14-06 04:27 PM
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27. bush dynasty and King Bush and his princes |
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My friend was 6 months surveyed on the phone in Missouri and aske would she vote for Jeb
So they are working on it
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Tue Nov-14-06 04:30 PM
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28. The only way they can pull that one off is with HUGH Diebold help |
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:rofl:
Even the dumbest Repubs won't go for that one! LOL
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Tue Nov-14-06 04:31 PM
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29. Not a chance on the party turning to another Bush this soon |
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not in this political climate and the GOP is smart enough to know it.
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Tue Nov-14-06 04:32 PM
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30. I think that the GOP wants to win more than anything now |
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and that it will be McCain and we will have to counter with somebody who can also attract independents.
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