Jack Murtha Has The Votes (MY DD)

[kpete]

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Jack Murtha has the votes
by Jerome Armstrong, Tue Nov 14, 2006 at 04:14:51 PM EST

I've heard from a couple of different Hill sources that Murtha is ahead; that newly elected Democrats favor Hoyer by a 2:1 margin, but that Murtha is ahead by about 25 votes overall, which has come about from the standing members after Nancy Pelosi's letter. The vote is Thursday. Let's hope that sticks and Murtha becomes the Majority Leader

http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/11/14/161451/68

[Freddie Stubbs]

1. I'm skeptical of anonymous sources with vote counts

Does anyone remember how everyone got all hyped up about blocking Alito's nomination. There were numerous blogs claiming that there were enough votes for a filibuster.

[rinsd]

6. I thnk Bowers is using a little gamemanship here

[Freddie Stubbs]

10. Gamesmanship = Lying?

:shrug:

[rinsd]

13. Lying is a bit harsh.

Let's say he is stating reality as he sees it where a nudge could put his guy over the top.

[Freddie Stubbs]

14. If he is saying some untrue which he knows to be untrue

it is a lie.

[rinsd]

15. I think you have to invioke the Costanza rule

"A lie is not a lie if you believe it"

[Freddie Stubbs]

19. I wonder why he would actually have believed this

Hoyer had a large number of Congressmen publicly supporting him.

[Freddie Stubbs]

18. He claimed that Murtha had a 2-1 advantage

That's one big nudge.

[Freddie Stubbs]

16. Apparently my skepticism was well founded

[WatchWhatISay]

2. When will all of this be settled

Media really wants us to get in a big fight about it

[John Q. Citizen]

3. It normal house politics. No big deal. n/t

[Pirate Smile]

4. The vote is Thursday.

[in_cog_ni_to]

5. Interesting. I heard yesterday that Steny Hoyer had enough votes to win.

I guess we'll find out Thursday, eh?

[EvangelOphileBlican]

7. I want to learn more about the speculation of Murtha's ethics before

I'm on board.

[chill_wind]

8. Here's a thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2612689&mesg_id=2614785

[MzNov]

9. YAY. Go Murtha! Pelosi-Murtha unstoppable team!!

:bounce:

:woohoo:

[Freddie Stubbs]

21. Hoyer and Pelosi will be the unstoppable team

[SouthernBelle82]

11. He'll be leader

He'll be leader. Especially since he has the votes. I have not really heard anything else from Hoyer on the issue so him being quiet perhaps that means he doesn't have the votes. At least that is how I'm taking it.

[KharmaTrain]

12. Another 24 Hour News Cycle Story...

Leadership battles always seem to play out in the media more than in the cloakroom. Hoyer needed to get out first to generate some buzz to see if he had any real support and to force Pelosi's hand. This "test of leadership" really wasn't as it was well known Pelosi wanted Murtha and as the head of the House Democrats, her recommendation carries a lot of weight.

Next week this story will fade as other "battles" will come up. The chairmanship and committee seating wheeling and dealing have just begun and those will be other news stories that really aren't, but sure make for good chatter. Good chance Hoyer will get a nice Chairmanship and this battle will be long forgotten by January.

Pelosi knows she needs a strong leadership team to fight both the Repugnicans and special interests in her own party to get anything accomplished next year. She also knows to help the party in '08, the Democrats have to show leadership and responsibility in running the House...and to do this she must show accomplishments and ones that can be taken on the campaign trail in purple and red areas in '08.

[Mass]

17. Apparently, Jerome was wrong...

[bigtree]

20. no!!

not mydd!!

[onenote]

22. Jerome better get some new sources