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Wed Nov-15-06 01:29 AM
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E-mail received from my boss - Do you think this is appropriate? |
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Air Traffic Control
Dallas ATC: "Saudi Air 911--You are cleared to land eastbound on runway 9."
Saudi Air: "Thank you Dallas ATC. Acknowledge cleared to land on infidel's runway 9 - Allah be Praised!!"
Dallas ATC "Iran Air 711--You are cleared to land westbound on runway 9"
Iran Air: "Thank you Dallas ATC. We are cleared to land on infidel's runway 9. - Allah is Great!!"
Pause: Static.............
Saudi Air: "DALLAS ATC! DALLAS ATC!!!"
Dallas ATC: "Go ahead Saudi Air 911?"
Saudi Air: "YOU HAVE CLEARED BOTH OUR AIRCRAFT FOR THE SAME RUNWAY!!! GOING IN OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS!!! WE ARE ON A COLLISION COURSE!!! INSTRUCTIONS PLEASE!!!
Pause: Static.............
Dallas ATC: "Well bless your hearts. Y'all be careful now and tell Allah 'hey' for us -- ya hear?.
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Wed Nov-15-06 01:33 AM
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1. Not only is it offensive for humanitarian reasons it's also...... |
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...offensive for comedic reasons! :)
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Wed Nov-15-06 01:34 AM
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2. sounds like your boss is fuck-wit war-mongering asshole |
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who thinks killing people is funny.
I hope the benifits are good. :(
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Wed Nov-15-06 01:35 AM
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3. No, that's certainly not 'appropriate'. |
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Unless you're working in the Main Office of the KKK or some such, that kind of crap has no place in the workplace.
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Wed Nov-15-06 01:36 AM
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Edited on Wed Nov-15-06 01:37 AM by blogslut
...is your boss? Are we talking supreme ruler boss or more like supervisor boss? Does your boss have a boss? Is there human resources department where you work?
Whatever you do, save that email.
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Wed Nov-15-06 01:55 AM
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She has a boss, that boss has a VP, then there's a senior VP etc. I responded simply. "In as much as you did it to the least of my bretheren, you've done it unto me."
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Wed Nov-15-06 02:17 AM
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I would do what was suggested downthread. Forward it to the HR department and/or her superiors. I wouldn't respond/reply to her at all.
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Wed Nov-15-06 05:25 AM
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...go over her head, as high as you can go. I did that once, and nearly got a VP fired the day before Xmas -- but I accepted his apology.
In retrospect, I should have let the bugger spend a cold, lonely Blue Christmas without a paycheck.
Sign me,
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Wed Nov-15-06 08:20 AM
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26. Never show mercy to a conservative. |
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They savaged the US's social safety net, and they deserve to experience the consequences firsthand. The OP should do his level best to get this supervisor fired.
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Wed Nov-15-06 08:33 AM
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28. Exactly. They are certain they can get away with this sort of shit. (NT) |
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Wed Nov-15-06 08:48 AM
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34. Best response you could have given. |
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Best response you could have given. Bravo! Good form!
To regards to your OP: No-- regardless of circumstance, your boss was out of line by denegrating a another faith.
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Wed Nov-15-06 01:37 AM
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What a horrid joke. How much company loyalty do you feel? How much do you like the boss? How big a company is this? If these are big-shots, you should take it to the media. It's bound to cost the boss his job, though. Probably don't want to ruin the misguided creature's life now, do you?
I don't know that I would have blown the whistle about this at most of the places I've worked, but if an old boss of mine would have hit me with something like that he would have been ripe for a practical joke, at the very least.
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Wed Nov-15-06 01:44 AM
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6. Forward it to HR if thats applicable where you work.... |
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I know at my job they take that kind of thing real serious...
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Wed Nov-15-06 08:37 AM
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29. "I received this mail from my supervisor..." |
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> Forward it to HR if thats applicable where you work....
"I received this mail from my supervisor and I think you should be aware of this incident. Surely, this sort of mail could cause hard feelings around the company, couldn't it? Especially when you consider, in compliance with the law, we employ people from many different ethnic groups including Khalid over in engineering -- think how he would be made to feel by this 'joke'. ..."
Etc., etc., customized as necessary.
Don't suggest any actions, just "raise concerns".
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Wed Nov-15-06 01:45 AM
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7. Something tells me that your boss will never fully appreciate... |
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...just how ignorant he or she is.
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Wed Nov-15-06 01:47 AM
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8. Really bloody stupid. oy. |
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Wed Nov-15-06 01:49 AM
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9. So wrong in so many ways... |
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Since it's obviously supposed to be a joke, you can always fire back with logic!
There is no runway 9 westbound. It is an impossible number - Runway 9 is oriented to approximately 90 degrees, or east. The other end of it would be labeled as runway 27, or westbound, at 270 degrees.
Dallas/Fort Worth has seven runways, not including any combination with a Runway 9:
Runways are 17L/35R, 17C/35C, 17R/35L, 18L/36R, 18R/36L, 13L/31R, and 13R/31L.
Hope this helps!
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Wed Nov-15-06 01:52 AM
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11. This was sent to me some time go by a wing nut |
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I immediately deleted it!!!
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Wed Nov-15-06 01:56 AM
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14. I responded with a quote from her bible |
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"In as much as you did it to the least of my bretheren, you've done it unto me."
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Wed Nov-15-06 01:51 AM
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10. Your boss is a freeptard. eom |
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Wed Nov-15-06 01:55 AM
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13. If you dislike the idiot and have a personnel office with a decent structure |
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and he sent this stupid joke to everyone and their mother, I'd turn his ass in and make him go for "sensitivity training" or something along those lines.
It's just a lousy, unfunny, racist, stupid joke. He's probably a "God fearing Christian" who stupidly doesn't realize that "Allah" is the same God of Abraham/Ibrahim that Jesus and Moses were so excited about...
What a dick.
And the very WORST part is, he doesn't get the fucking difference between a nation with whom we have problematic relations since 1979 (Iran) and a staunch, long term ally dating back to FDR (the House of Saud).
Racist, religiously insulting and retarded, and unbearably stupid when it comes to US foreign policy and history...sounds like the Monkey--a real trifecta of dunce-ness.
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Wed Nov-15-06 02:01 AM
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15. I felt like revising it to this, see if she gets it. |
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Air Traffic Control
Dallas ATC: "US Air 911--You are cleared to land eastbound on runway 9."
Saudi Air: "Thank you Dallas ATC. Acknowledge cleared to land on infidel's runway 9 - Jehovah be Praised!!"
Dallas ATC "Israel Air 711--You are cleared to land westbound on runway 9"
Iran Air: "Thank you Dallas ATC. We are cleared to land on infidel's runway 9. - Jehovah is Great!!"
Pause: Static.............
Saudi Air: "DALLAS ATC! DALLAS ATC!!!"
Dallas ATC: "Go ahead US Air 911?"
Saudi Air: "YOU HAVE CLEARED BOTH OUR AIRCRAFT FOR THE SAME RUNWAY!!! GOING IN OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS!!! WE ARE ON A COLLISION COURSE!!! INSTRUCTIONS PLEASE!!!
Pause: Static.............
Dallas ATC: "Well bless your hearts. Y'all be careful now and tell Jehovah 'hey' for us -- ya hear?.
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Wed Nov-15-06 02:05 AM
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16. Or replace "Allah" with "Jesus" |
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That'll really fuck a freeptard's mind. :evilgrin:
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Wed Nov-15-06 02:16 AM
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17. It's a stupid joke - I'd say chill and find a good anti-Repuke |
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Edited on Wed Nov-15-06 02:19 AM by RamboLiberal
joke to send to him. See if he has a sense of humor. Or maybe he'll get the message.
I'm an IT manager so I see in checking our filters some of the email flying between co-workers and between our engineers and sales guys and it's amazing the crass RW crap that's flying around. Hell, they're still stuck on Clinton.
Or just tell him that you're a Dem and you don't appreciate this type of joke.
And we all know there's some insensitive stuff here on DU. For instance I cringe every time someone here gloats over Santorum bringing a dead "fetus home to his kids to play with". To me even if he's a Repuke that is repugnant, but I'm not running to the Mods or Skinner over it.
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Wed Nov-15-06 08:40 AM
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31. *DON'T DO THAT*. You will put yourself in the same legal jeopardy... |
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*DON'T DO THAT*. You will put yourself in the same legal jeopardy that your boss has placed himself in.
Don't respond at all (yes, I know, too late), just start the existing formal porcesses by contacting someone very high up in your HR department.
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Wed Nov-15-06 03:09 AM
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19. Emails of this type are VERBOTEN ..... |
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And have been for more than a decade in my line of work ....
My boss wouldnt be sending this trash; she would be investigating it ....
I send NO 'jokes' at work .... I dont ever even visit DU ...
Who the fuck has time for this shit anyways ? ... a BOSS ? ....
WTF ? .... WHO the hell is minding the store ? ....
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Wed Nov-15-06 04:30 AM
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And any "boss" who is sending that to employees should be reported.
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Wed Nov-15-06 05:01 AM
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If the real terrorists had planes, it would be funny. Maybe that's what he was thinking.
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Wed Nov-15-06 05:21 AM
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22. Is this a Southern thing? |
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Doesn't "bless your heart" really mean "fuck you"?
Seriously: Appropriate, no, not in a work environment. Anti-Muslim, for starters. But since s/he owns the bloody email server, you're screwn.
Any chance of working for someone who's not a right-wing shithead?
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Wed Nov-15-06 07:11 AM
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25. No, she doesn't own the server. |
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This is a fortune 500 company. They own the server.
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Wed Nov-15-06 06:08 AM
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24. turn that ''joke'' and your boss in. |
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it's beyond inappropriate.
there's no treating a little item like that gem lightly.
and it needs to be dealt with.
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Wed Nov-15-06 08:32 AM
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27. Clearly inappropriate! Big company? Like your boss much? |
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This E-mail is clearly inappropriate and would be actionable if you wish.
How do you feel about your boss otherwise? (That is, do you want to keep working for them?)
If you're in a big company (so it's okay if you don't want to keep working for this particular boss), take action. Big companies have HR divisions that know how to handle this sort of thing. But "start high", like with the VP of human resources. Don't start with the peons who are paid to deflect worker complaints).
If you're in a small company (and your boss is, for example, "the" boss), and you don't want to keep working at your current company, contact your local state labor department; your bosses actions create a "hostile work environment" and are likely illegal under the various equal employment oppor- tunity laws as well.
If it's a small company and you need the job, you're screwed. Welcome to Rethuglican America.
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Wed Nov-15-06 08:38 AM
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Totally inappropriate!!!! :grr:
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Wed Nov-15-06 08:42 AM
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32. My response when I got it a few days ago: |
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Edited on Wed Nov-15-06 08:52 AM by MindPilot
"LOL!! Those people in the south are really stupid; they don't even know how runways are designated!!" (The version I received was "Atlanta ATC" and "runway 9R".)
Then a little note condescendingly explaining that the opposite of 9R would be 27L.
On edit: The really offensive thing about this one is the idea that any controller anywhere would deliberately put two aircraft on a collision course.
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Wed Nov-15-06 08:45 AM
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33. Completely inappropriate |
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Even people who would know to never make a joke about African Americans feel free to make Muslim-bashing and gay-bashing jokes.
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Wed Nov-15-06 08:56 AM
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Yes it does seem to be anti-Muslim and therefore offensive - not only to Muslim co-workers, but to anyone who believes in human dignity.
But let's not forget - John Kerry thinks it's OK to tell jokes (or rather - try to tell them) about the Iraq War (while he is at work), and make fun of people who don't "make an effort to be smart".
If there is a regular pattern of hate-filled mails, then definitely raise concerns with your HR dept.
But if you make a big deal out of this one joke - you are risking some negative consequences for yourself. People saying you're a "politically correct a$$-wipe" and "not a team player" (a label that's not easy to shake-off).
I actually think it's OK to make clear to the person who sent it - that you don't find it funny, and help them to understand why it's not funny.
Don't forget - WE are the majority, THEY are the minority. We need to help the right-wingers adjust to their new status after November 7th ...
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Wed Nov-15-06 08:57 AM
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esp. for the work place and by a higher-ranking individual. You'd think that a boss would know better. :eyes:
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Wed Nov-15-06 09:00 AM
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37. not funny- either send back some not funny coultergiest or limblob thing |
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Just tell the boss that you don't care for the racist crap or take it further if you wish.
The repukes don't think. A good friend of mine sent one about being a white man with a gun and Christian and then went into tree hugger crap and saying the spotted owl tasted like Chicken. I could easily have let it go as a stupid joke, but the overall right wing crap was too heavy- too many talking points. I turned it all around and asked him why he would send me this crap. :silly:
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