freerepublic.com is a terrorist cell....make no mistake

[Gato Moteado]

hanging chad was merely the first (that we know of) freeper terrorist to make good on his threats. but, if something is not done soon by the FBI, you can bet that more of those terrorists will make themselves known by committing horrible acts. a while back i remember seeing a sig line of a freep-terrorist that suggested doing harm to hillary clinton before she gets a chance to run for president.

i sincerely hope, that with a more sane and law abiding congress, we can force the rightwing administration to stop the political attacks on peace activists and environmentalists and go after terrorists on our soil. the first thing on the to-do list should be to gut these hate groups, of which freerepublic is one of the most visible, and start incarcerating these terrorists.

freerepublic.com is the US version of al qaida

[onenote]

1. thanks, no thanks

Notwithstanding the over-the-top hyperbole, freeperland is not a "terrorist cell" and while I'll disagree with and oppose the positions advocated there, I'll be damned if I'd support or encourage the government to silence an Internet message site.

[Jed Dilligan]

3. Silence? That's the last thing a serious antiterrorism effort

wants from the terrorists. I think the OP is an argument that the Feds should be reading FR as closely as they read radical Islam sites.

[Gato Moteado]

11. bingo!

you got it.

my point is that if the FBI doesn't keep an eye on that rat infested hole, more chad castaganas will show themselves. his terrorist attack didn't prove to be fatal, but who's to say what their next attempt will be.

i have seen a lot of people in that shit-hole advocate violence against their political opposition. anyone who doesn't think that's a terrorist cell is nuts.

[Ian David]

37. Don't the Freepers say that if you have nothing to hide, it's okay for Bush to spy on you?

I'm sure Rimbjob did his patriotic duty and willingly handed-over every last byte of data to the feds, without even suggesting they get a subpoena or court order or show "probable cause."

In fact, I bet he didn't even ask for a receipt for any evidence he gave them.

"It's okay, Mister FBI-man. I don't need a receipt. I trust you."

In fact, I bet that as soon as Rimjob set-up Free Republic, from Day One, he gave someone at The FBI admin privileges to the system. Because that's what a True Patriot would do!

[The Backlash Cometh]

5. But I do so want to see them sweat as the FBI battles to get into

their membership list. The irony is, that they'll probably rely on some Liberal lawyer to protect them.

[zreosumgame]

35. hear, hear!

[meisje]

49. This is too outrageous even for DU - You've jumped the shark!!

[bryant69]

2. That might be gong a bit to far, but not by much

At any rate, when you demonize people the way the Free Republicans and their buddies in the Conservative Press have demonized the left in this country, you have to expect violence sooner or latter. Hell, if I believed we were all the things they say we are, I don't nkow that I'd commit violence, but it would certainly be in my mind.

Which indicates either they are a bunch of pansies, unwilling to act on the logic of their position, or they don't really believe the things they are saying.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[Guaranteed]

4. I'd call it only a slight overstatement. Seriously.

The mentality of the neo-cons is terrorist.

[txindy]

9. Right now they're saying that sending death threats and powder is only "teasing."

Not a crime. :wtf: They're defending a terrorist. :freak: They've completely jumped the shark. Heck, entire oceans of sharks.

[Gato Moteado]

21. exactly!

just like denny hastert coddled and gave refuge to the child molesters of his party in the congress, the freerepublic aids and abets terrorists and nazis like chad casagana.

[BOSSHOG]

12. One slight disagreement

Pansies are incredibly hardy plants capable of withstanding temperatures into the teens for long periods of time. They also provide beautiful color and pep up winter landscapes. They are definitely an asset to any plot of land. I know Pansies. Freepers are no pansies.

[Kali]

24. ...

:thumbsup: Just put some out by the front door. Looks like I will be covering the tomatoes and bringing my lime tree in tonight. Might be our first frost. :-(

[MamaBear]

39. LOL

I have to agree. Pansies are beautiful, textured, colorful and sturdy.

[salvorhardin]

6. You're being silly

You're talking about 1 deranged individual out of thousands. Sure, there's probably more deranged people there, but if you advocate shutting down an internet discussion site based on what people might be thinking of doing then your solution is no better than much of what is seen at freeperland.

[Guaranteed]

10. Their worldview is exactly the same as the Islamic extremists.

Loyalty over freedom. Death threats over civilized discourse. Religion over science. Etc.

[Kali]

27. Mirror people.

You can tell a lot about them by what they claim to be against - and if it is sexual at all, they are doing it in some kind of deviant, destructive way. Often with minors.

[Gato Moteado]

14. you don't have to shut it down....but you do have to investigate...

..each occurence of a freeptard condoning violence against their political opposition. and it's a frequent occurence there.

[Gato Moteado]

18. by the way.....the administration considers environmentalists and...

..peace activist groups to be organizations that should be monitored because of the threat of terrorism. can you believe that?

and you're telling me i that i'm silly for pointing out that the real terrorists are the douchebags that sit in their parents' basement or in their trailer park, fondling their handguns, masturbating to internet photos of ann coulter and dreaming of doing harm to people that don't share their ideology?

[Guaranteed]

25. I think that's a really good post, right there. nt

[Gato Moteado]

23. they're all deranged......

...have you ever read the garbage there?

[Ian David]

38. I wouldn't want Feeperland shut-down by heavy-handed government censors

Free speech is for everyone, including the brain-dead neo-nazi Republicker scum on Free Republic.

I hope that this experience teaches them someting: That even when you're innocent, privacy is valuable. That government-- even Republicker controlled government-- needs to be held accountable and forced to behave responsibly.

I hope their beloved Chimpenfuhrer and The FBI abuse the hell out of Free Republic and the Freepers, and show them exactly why we were right all along.

I hope that our federal government finds what they need and brings the guilty to justice.

But I also hope that the innocent (even among the Freepers) are spared any harm.

Like I said, I'll admit that I did a little happy dance.

But free speech is for everyone.

I say, let the Freepers fight to protect the very rights that they wanted to take away from us.

But let's also stand in solidarity with them-- because their rights are also OUR rights.

Let's pay lip service to their defense, speak loudly about their rights, and then do absolutely nothing substantial to come to their aid. Maybe write some emails saying we support them. Maybe pray for them. Maybe put a magnetic ribbon on our cars for them.

In other words, let's support Free Republic the same way they support our troops-- from the safety and comfort of our keyboards.

But at the very least, we can't be (openly) celebrating the fall of Free Republic-- not under these circumstances.

If they go broke, or if the ownership of the board is found guilty, then yeah, we should celebrate.

But we shouldn't be celebrating the quashing of an entire message board due to the investigation of one bad actor.

So, let's all agree that we "Support The Freepers" this one time.

They'd do it for us, right?

Right?

Well...

We're better than they are anyway.

Where do I buy me a damn ribbon for my car?


See:

I, for one, am not going to celebrate the fall of Free Republic
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2704988&mesg_id=2705228




Make your custom magnet at http://www.supportourribbons.com

[Gato Moteado]

40. i agree with you in regards to censorship, etc.....

...but that doesn't change the fact that freepers are terrorists. they are. that's really what my OP was about.

[Ian David]

41. Under Cheney's One Percent Doctrine, then yes, Free Republic is a terrorist cell

Who's Counting: Cheney's One Percent Doctrine
Vice President Said to Feel That If There's a 1 Percent Chance, Then Act

July 2, 2006 — Professor of mathematics at Temple University, John Allen Paulos is the author of best-selling books including "Innumeracy" and "A Mathematician Plays the Stock Market." His "Who's Counting?" column on ABCNews.com appears the first weekend of every month.

In his heralded new book, "The One Percent Doctrine," Ron Suskind writes that Vice President Dick Cheney forcefully stated that the war on terror empowered the Bush administration to act without the need for evidence or extensive analysis.

Suskind describes the Cheney doctrine as follows: "Even if there's just a 1 percent chance of the unimaginable coming due, act as if it is a certainty. It's not about 'our analysis,' as Cheney said. It's about 'our response.' … Justified or not, fact-based or not, 'our response' is what matters. As to 'evidence,' the bar was set so low that the word itself almost didn't apply."

There is a complex interplay between an act's possible consequences, evidence, and the probabilities involved. And sometimes, of course, the probability justifying action of some sort is even less than 1 percent. Vaccines are routinely given, for example, even for diseases whose risk of being contracted is much less than 1 percent.

That being granted, the simplistic doctrine of "if at least 1 percent, then act" is especially frightening in international conflicts, not least because the number of threats misconstrued (by someone or other) to meet the 1 percent threshold is huge and the consequences of military action are so terrible and irrevocable.

More:
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=2120605&page=1

[Gato Moteado]

42. wow! send rimjob to gitmo! cheney says so!

hanging chad and rimjob to gitmo!

[SoCalDem]

46. Run little freepers... run to the light

[Warpy]

7. It's more of an online lunatic asylum

whose members are grooving on self righteousness, megalomania, paranoia, and hate. Few of them will act out, though, so I think calling it a domestic Al Qaeda is overstating the case by quite a lot.

Chances are very good that the little ball of fury known as Constanza would have acted out anyway, sooner or later, blaming any premise he found. Some people are just plain unstable.

[Double T]

8. Freedom of speech and expression SHOULD NEVER be suppressed.......

regardless of the words or position. There will ALWAYS be propaganda, which is WHY 'WE' are HERE to counter IT.

[Guaranteed]

13. They can't be censored, but they sure as hell can be investigated.

I'm not totally clear on the law as to whether inciting violence is protected speech, but, whether it is or not, since they're actually engaging in it in at least one instance (and probably a whole lot more than that, to be honest), they ought to be investigated.

[BushOut06]

15. What about making threats and inciting others to violence?

If we started sending suspicious packages to Congress, or began making physical threats against Bush and his cronies on a regular basis, the Feds would be all over us in a heartbeat.

The Feds already monitor well established hate groups like Aryan Nations and National Alliance. Free Republic should be included on that list.

[Gato Moteado]

16. we don't have to take away their freedom of speech....

...in order to investigate them and ensure we stop future terrorist attacks. who knows what some sick freeptard might be planning at this very moment.

[4morewars]

17. "gotta catapult the propaganda"

FR is not a real website, it is a repuke propaganda machine. I can't help but wonder who is bankrolling this.

It would be interesting to follow the money trail, probably leads right to karl rove's desk. It wouldn't surprise me if it was our tax dollars.

[Gato Moteado]

19. no doubt it's a propoganda machine....i agree.....

and there's a serious danger added in that the members are easily manipulated lemmings that are goaded into demonizing their political opponents and subtly encouraged to do them harm.

[4morewars]

29. Not always so subtle either.

How many times has that POS, ann coulter, come right out and say liberals should be killed.

That bitch even admitted sending a white powder letter to the NYT, and yet , no police action. Kinda makes one wonder. Not to mention the actual anthrax letters from five years ago, how's that investigation going, I wonder.

[Kali]

28. From the looks of it they aren't spending much.

Your tax dollars are being used pretty frugally, if they are going to that site!:rofl:

[Gato Moteado]

32. either that, or osama rimjob is skimming most of it off the top....

..and very little is trickling down to make the site usable or readable.

:rofl:

[4morewars]

33. LOL

Every cloud has a silver lining !

:hi:

[youthere]

20. Ridiculous. n/t

[praeclarus]

22. i'm quite sure...

... that real terrorist cells don't get on public
forums to discuss the plans. Closing that site is
not going to make anybody safer (talking about making
us safer brings me a gag refex by now, holy cow).

What you got there on FR is some extremist types,
at least as far as their rhetoric, who get in a circle
jerk and wind themselves up.

Most of it is talk but it's easy to imagine how
being in the midst of that may embolden a weak mind
just as it did for this sorry tweaker Chad.

I will always oppose censorship and that goes for
that site as well.

[Gato Moteado]

26. i didn't mean to imply censorship......

...what i did mean to suggest was a thorough investigation and monitoring of these people. after all, they would be the first to defend unwarranted wiretaps on your phone. yet you haven't sent anyone threatening letters with fake anthrax. you're not a nazi that threatens jon stewart by trying to imply that white supremecists will kill him like they killed a jewish radio personality in the 80s.

these are sick and dangerous people.

[Kali]

30. I would bet my bottom doallar they are monitored already.

[praeclarus]

31. i'll agree some of them are certainly sick and twisted...

... and appalling hyprocrites who out of one side
of their mouth suggest that with the Dems in power,
the terrorists will now storm the beaches while out
the other applaud such things as Chad has done and
discuss with glee a variety of other things which
if any foreigner were to do them would be called
"terrorism" by one and all.

I reckon that's a form of brainwashing.

The good news is that they make it easy to be
monitored eh? No need for draconian laws. Just
log in and take screen shots. ;)

[Gato Moteado]

34. i totally agree with you there....no need for draconian laws to identify...

...them.

i do, however, hope the patriot act would be used on these hate groups (i.e. warrantless wiretapping, secret detentions, etc) as opposed to peace activists and environmentalists.

[Ian David]

36. I hope The UnaFreeper gets what he deserves.

Fortunately for him, Bush says the U.S. doesn't torture.

He must be relieved.

[0rganism]

43. more like the GOP equivalent of a radical madras

I would hazard a guess that 95% of their membership is inactive other than the usual echo-chamber crap, and the underwhelming turnout for their rallies confirms this. Of the other 5%, 90% are mostly harmless and engage primarily in legal (if reprehensible) activism. The problem is, they just keep stirring the pot until one of their 0.5%-ers does something incredibly vicious and criminal. :shrug:

[StraightDope]

44. They're called capital letters...

And you produce them by holding the "Shift" key whist depressing your desired key. :eyes:

[Gato Moteado]

45. did you mean to use the word "whilst" instead of "whist"?

why would you use affected britishisms rather than using the word "while"?

as for my typing style, yes, i know the rules of grammar and punctuation. and, sometimes, like you, a typo occurs. but my use of lower case letters just happens to be my style. you're the first person who has ever commented on it in such a negative way.

[StraightDope]

47. Don't mind me, I'm a smart-ass...

And if you think that was bad, thank your lucky stars that I didn't catch you misusing a homophone!

:)

[Gato Moteado]

48. your to funny

it annoys me to, when people misuse homophones in there writing.

i try not too ever split my infinitives, to.

[StraightDope]

50. LOL...

:rofl: