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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 11:58 AM
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News Flash (Maybe) If You Haven't Heard Yet! Jennings District 13 Race!
Looks like THEY DID IT AGAIN! For anyone interested, please check out today's Sarasota Herald Tribune article about this race. Here's the link www.sarasotaheraldtribune.com

I am so MAD I could SPIT nails! Manual recount was supposed to start TODAY in Sarasota county, however has been put off until tomorrow, or so we're told! Too many games going on to date. At the meeting last night we were told by lawyers Coffey & Heckler that they are willing to go forward with the recount, but (and these are my words) they are being cagey about times & how the tapes from the machines will be viewed. They don't have a clue as to what the print outs will show from the ES&S machines, whether they will show race by race or simply a total count. They haven't been told what they will see. But that information WON'T be pursued until the manual recount of absentees is finished.

But it seems ONCE AGAIN... that the ballot DESIGN is at fault! Too bad voters, YOU ARE STUPID, once again!

I freely admit that I voted for Jan Schneider in the primaries, but got involved with this recount because I'm SICK & TIRED of this stuff happening. This IS NOT Democracy in action here!!!! Anyway, for anyone interested in this, it seems the suggestion is that Jennings should concede and wait for two years and run again.. that is if enough votes can't be found by absentees under votes!

WHY DO I PUT MYSELF THROUGH THIS???

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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:01 PM
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1. Thats' the paper's view...She should not stop fighting...Thanks for the update.
Do you have to go back tomorrow?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:01 PM
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2. I'm sorry
Florida is at the short end of the shit stick when it comes to elections...

There are LOTS of recorded problems down there:
http://www.votersunite.org/electionproblems.asp?sort=date&selectstate=FL&selectvendor=&selectproblemtype=ALL
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:06 PM
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5. most probs reported on ES&S machines, which Sarasota uses
(according to the link)
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:15 PM
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8. Well, I Wasn't Advocating Impeachment... But NOW I Think I Changed
my mind!! We need to rid ourselves of this CORRUPTION!!

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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:23 PM
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9. 11 of 16 reported problems on ES&S machines
assuming the last problem reported in Sarasota is also on ES&S. the graph doesn't specify.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:48 PM
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11. The Machines ARE ES&S... I No Longer Have ANY Doubt
whatsoever that we got SCREWED again!! I probably shouldn't be posting right now because I really am so completely UPSET and INFURIATED!

Just one silly comment here, I SERIOUSLY doubt I will EVER call a SHRUB a BUSH again! I absolutely can not STAND any reminder of these evil, corrupt power tyrants!

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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:50 PM
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12. try not to burn out -- let the anger cleanse ...then KICK SOME ASS
:evilgrin:
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:52 PM
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14. That's My Plan... For NOW! n/t
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:09 PM
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6. Yeah... And Guess Who The Governor Is???
I'm so overwhelmingly mad my stomach is in knots! Why do we keep getting this stuff shoved in our face?? And in the end, most likely it will be "Oh, well it's not OUR fault that people don't pay attention!"

Of course, I intend to keep fighting, but I voted absentee myself because of this stuff. They will say that ANYONE could have done that!

If I could get out of here "yesterday" I WOULD!! Unfortunately it will take some time for me to extricate myself from here, my husband is a native and we own several pieces of land. Not to mention his mother lives with us and has severe Alzheimer's and HER place can't be sold until she passes away. She is now 94 and other than complete inability to care for herself, she has no other medical problems. Just Alzheimer's!

Glad I don't like guns and don't own one!!

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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:05 PM
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3. hang in there! and THANK YOU for your work and frustration
you put yourself thru it because it MATTERS a whole hell of a lot.

maybe the DU activist corps could do a letter campaign to the Sarasota Herald Trib? it seems like if there's an inch to take, the Sarasota PsTB will take a mile. lets let them know that the world is watching.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:56 PM
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16. It Was Mentioned At Last Night's Meeting That THEY (Lawyers) Know
how many people all over are watching what is going on. We will keep the "fire" burning, that was the message from last night for sure!

There was even a Repulican on the local news who is extremely mad about what he actually called "election fraud" and how he was very upset that "his" party is part of this thing all over again!

Keeping my fingers crossed that more and more of the Repukes around here will actually see the light that this is ABOUT DEMOCRACY!

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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:06 PM
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4. If an election is not transparent and it is not auditable then it's not
a Democratic election. Period.

I hear your frustration and you are right to be so upset. FL has issues but they are not alone. Keep fighting down there and know that we are with you.

I was glad to hear that Jennings took action to, basically, sieze the machines and the data involved. I hope she will pursue the legal battle as far as need be.

I followed the polls and she was ahead for weeks; no way she lost.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:12 PM
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7. Well, Sarasota County Was HER County.... All Along... Everyone
here KNOWS that! So we KNOW why this was done.

We are going forward, but we shouldn't have to fight back like this. Maybe shining a light on this will REALLY show how very corrupt these people are, and that they will stop at NOTHING to win an election!

Repuke Morality??? Hey, it DOESN'T exist!!

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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:30 PM
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10. You are right that you shouldn't have to fight so hard for a basic
American principle (ie an election) but I am extremely grateful that you are fighting.

Something is wrong in NM too. The Madrid - Wilson race was one of the more likely targets for fraud. It's not been called yet.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:51 PM
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13. Well... I Suppose We Don't Have A Choice About What NEEDS To
happen. I fear I'll be on the National News if I don't settle down a bit.

I'm sure I will be able to deal with the recount effort without going off the deep end, but afterwards, I really think we need to get rid of these people!

Oh, let's Bring Democracy To Iraq... but fuggedaboudid HERE!
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:55 PM
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15. Good luck with the recount and good luck with the good fight, you
know, figuratively speaking :-)
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:56 PM
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17. Thanks Again... I'll Be Posting! n/t
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