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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:00 PM
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Does your generation have a romanticized view of that of your parents'?
Edited on Wed Nov-15-06 01:09 PM by GreenPartyVoter
I ask because I was born in '71 and my bro was born in '74. As kids we played our parents old vinyls and 8 tracks. Then as teens we got sucked into movies like Platoon, Full Metal Jacket, JFK, Apocalypse Now, footage of Woodstock and so forth. And we always had a feeling like "Dang, we missed it. We showed up a generation too late." (I don't feel quite like that now. We certainly have some 'interesting times' on our hands these days after all.)

Did other DUers also feel like their generation is 'meh' compared to previous ones too? Do you think your kids will wind up thinking they showed up too late for interesting times too?
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:04 PM
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1. I think I came more than a few generations too late
Just with the way my brain seems to work.

"Do you think your kids will wind up thinking they showed up too late for interesting times too?"

Absolutely not. There will be plenty for the kids in the 21st century. More than they will need, wish to handle, or want to care about.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:07 PM
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3. True. :^(
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:27 PM
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12. Don't be glum chum
They'll just be facing the same problems as everyone else('78 here by the way), just on a bigger scale. If we have the energy required to continue to grow that is. If not, then those would be problems of reduction and contraction, instead of endless growth and expansion. But, you know, 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:05 PM
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2. No, but I'm a baby boomer.
Edited on Wed Nov-15-06 01:08 PM by Gormy Cuss
We thought our generation rocked compared to theirs (with the exception of the Vietnam war and related events, that is.) We watched enormous social change happen right before our eyes in the civil rights movement. We saw men walk on the moon. Our parents came through the Great Depression and WWII.


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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:08 PM
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4. Hmm. Maybe it's only the boomer babies who feel this way then.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:09 PM
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5. I totally sympathize with this
Born in 70 myself and yeah, the Baby Boomers can't stop telling us how great they are, and they basically run everything. It's hard to imagine a generation more stuck on itself (sorry Baby Boomers).

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:16 PM
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8. I recently read a definiton of "baby busters" which is one way some describe
our generation. In many ways, we were lucky because following behind the Baby Boomers, we had excellent school facilities that were no where near overcrowded. We had teachers who were coming straight off of activist, progressive campuses and these ideas played out in their teaching methods.

I know I went to school up until 8th grade in a progressive school system in the mid-Atlantic region. I think what's sad for me is all the promise of that sort of education has just fallen by the wayside.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:20 PM
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10. Your time will come
I hope you are more prepared and have more integrity than the boomers. We sold out.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:14 PM
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6. I was a teenager in the '60s. I thought my parents' generation,
the "Great Generation", was good, but emotionally repressed, through no real fault of their own, but not to be emulated. We really were trying, somewhat imperfectly, to learn what "Free Love" means. Unconditional love was the model. We were against people using one another in marriage to get houses and cars and clothes and calling that "love".

My children have the whole middle-class materialistic dream behind them, they have gone much further than I have in learning how to live and love differently. I know they think that they face bigger challenges than my generation had, but they also think if they stay honest about what they really want/need, new things are happening. They only need time to grow.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:15 PM
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7. Nah
My boys, born in the 80's tease me unmercifully about being a hippie though. I always tell them they are jealous but whatever, I don't think they envy me being in the middle of all the crap but we did make some damned good music and progress was made for civil rights so it wasn't all bad.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:17 PM
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9. They haven't printed the money to persuade me to live during
my parents' era. I thought their generation was (and is) so screwed up as far as their collective middleclass values. I have anything but a romantic view of their l'air du temps (che sara, sara).
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:27 PM
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11. No, I think we romanticize the era in which we were young
Which is why the greatest generation is so easily sucked into "wartime." That was when they were young - "we are at war" I think may subconcsiously strike a positive chord to them and Chimpadministration takes full advantage of that.

To me the era of the late 60s and 70s seems the most romantic, but I think that could be because I was young then.

Though the rightward shift of the US is a mystery to me, because baby boomers are the largest segment of the population and now in their 40s and 50s, so why did so many of them fall for the use of 911 and terra to vote in rightwingers to a congressional majority, especially in 2004? When they were rebellious of authority in the late 60s and the 70s as young people? Does growing into middle age and having children really make you more conservative, scared and willing to submit to authority?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:34 PM
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13. You may be on to something there!
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:49 PM
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15. Well said
"Does growing into middle age and having children really make you more conservative, scared and willing to submit to authority?"

It's just easier. Not very respectable (IMO), but easier. It's hard not to fall prey to the siren song of convenience.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:49 PM
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14. I felt the same way about the WW II era.
Born in '41.
I liked (still do) my parents' music.
Big bands, Sinatra, etc.
Wanted to fly a P-51 and be a real fighter pilot.

My 'kid' is now 35, and while she'll freely tell you she had a very happy childhood, I don't think she's particularly nostalgic for my generation's life and times.
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 02:09 PM
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16. I'm A Baby Boomer
Born 1953. I've noticed this phenomenon. Ten years ago or so I noticed a lot of enthusiasm for the Beatles among nieces & nephews & the kids of friends my age. Beatles were a wonderful group of musicians, of course, but it struck me as odd that people their age would like them that much, or in the way they liked them. I subtracted the number of years between the Beatles Era & these younger peoples' times from, say, 1970 — when I was just about to graduate high school — & wound up in the Swing Era. Now, I like Swing well enough, but then, I like all kinds of music, & the thing is, when I was seventeen, I wouldn't have liked it, not the way these kids liked the Beatles. It would have been old folks' music, very uncool.

So why is this? Boomers no doubt grew up in interesting times, but all times are interesting, really. I don't think my generation was particularly special. For every charismatic angel-headed hipster in tie-dye & bells there were several crew-cut jerks waiting to beat him up, not to mention a whole crew of dozing neuters. Probably similar demographics will be found in all generations.

It seems to me that the difference which makes the difference lies with the media. The 1950s through the 1960s was when technology finally achieved wide enough spread & coverage that people could talk about a global village, all linked together by the media. But this media, largely, was sponsored by commercial interests. Commercial interests have their own agenda, which can be summarized as, first, run down the individual & destroy his or her self-confidence, followed by presenting the now-tenderized individual with a commercially-available alternative that "everybody else" likes, uses, thinks is cool. This moves the products off the shelves. The problem is, the commercial interests have very little genuine imagination. So they keep presenting variations on the "he's a rebel," "sensitive, misunderstood, alienated youth," "wacky but cool beatnik" stuff that was current when their first big media boom happened. Worked fine then, why change it?

Or it may be simply that those approaches do work really well. When I was a kid & bellbottom pants were in (for everyone, not just females as it seems to be today) we would get our mothers to split the seams of regular pants & sew in a wedge, making them flare. Home-made bells. Then manufactured bellbottoms began to be available, & soon, you couldn't sell anything but. What the commercial interests ended up with was several million individuals all expressing their individuality in exactly the same way. Sure made manufacturing simpler & increased profits. So they keep selling individuality by the container load, & keep using the alienated rebel meme that worked so well in the past, & which now seems to be permanently symbolized by, y'know, all those '60s images — protest marches, painted faces, dope smoking. Paisley.

Or — here's a little paranoia (another hallmark of the '60s) — maybe there's a concerted effort by the Powers That Be to strongly associate individuality, questioning authority, the unspeakable visions of the individual, with the '60s & the '60s only. That is, "Rebellion was fun in high school, citizens, but that was then. This is now. Get to work." And the phenomenon we're discussing here is an unintended side effect.

Or maybe today's romanticization of the '60s is due to the fact that there is one hell of a lot of unfinished business left over from then.

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 08:13 PM
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17. Yes, I gues sthere is some unfinished business. I guess what I most
envy about my parents' generation is what my mother often lamented the loss of: innocence. Now the drugs are harder, the sex is deadlier, the planet is falling apart. :(
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 08:14 PM
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18. I missed the Great Depression, World War II, Korean War...
Edited on Wed Nov-15-06 08:15 PM by slackmaster
And I don't mind having missed those.

What I do feel I missed is having a lot fewer people around, and unspoiled open space here in Southern California.\

Born in 1958, BTW.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 11:21 PM
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19. kick for the evening crowd
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 12:28 AM
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20. in reflection, born in 61, teenager thru out 70's in calif, i think we had it
best.... in freedom and least risk. i think we had the kick ass time. kid in 60's teenager in 70's, single adult in 80's. my kids really rmanticize my time. love our music.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:18 AM
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21. My parents came of age during the 70's stagflation, so HELL NO!
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