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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:06 PM
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Plame Attorney to Use Paula Jones Precedent to Force Cheney to Testify
In 1997, the U.S. Supreme Court said in a unanimous ruling that neither Clinton “or any other official has an immunity that extends beyond the scope of any action taken in an official capacity.”

Plame Attorney to Use Paula Jones Precedent to Force Cheney to Testify
Posted by Jon Ponder | Aug. 16, 2006, 11:12 am

The biggest travesty wrought by the Supreme Court in the 1990s was its unanimous decision that Paula Jones could sue Pres. Clinton while he was in office. (This was followed by their biggest travesty perhaps ever but certainly of the millenial decade, in December 2000, when they voted along party lines to give George W. Bush the presidency over Al Gore.)

But here is how the worm might turn:

In 1997, the U.S. Supreme Court said in a unanimous ruling that neither Clinton “or any other official has an immunity that extends beyond the scope of any action taken in an official capacity.”A lawyer plans to use a legal precedent that allowed President Bill Clinton to be sued while in office to force Vice President Dick Cheney and presidential adviser Karl Rove to testify in a lawsuit brought by former CIA operative Valerie Plame and her husband.

California attorney Joseph Cotchett said he will ask a federal court to order Cheney, his ex-chief of staff Lewis “Scooter” Libby and Rove to testify in depositions about their role in disclosing her classified status.

The civil lawsuit accuses them and others of conspiring to publicly identify Plame as a CIA agent to punish her husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, for writing in an op-ed piece that the Bush administration twisted intelligence about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction in the run-up to the Iraq war.

Cotchett, who took over as trial counsel in Plame’s case on Tuesday, said legal precedent for whether Cheney and the others could claim legal immunity in the case comes, in part, from Paula Jones’ sexual harassment case against Clinton.


more at:
http://www.pensitoreview.com/2006/08/16/plame-attorney-to-use-paula-jones-precedent-to-force-cheney-to-testify/
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:08 PM
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1. What a fantastic thing! How absolutely beautiful. Thanks Kpete
for this excellent news.

Karma, karma, karma.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:08 PM
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2. Karma is a beautiful thing.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 03:56 PM
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36. It is karma.
How wonderful.
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Kber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 04:52 PM
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37. It's Plame
'cause Karma doesn't have fists

(From "My name is Earl".)
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:08 PM
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3. Karma in action
When it comes back your way, it usually knocks you on your ass.
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 03:36 PM
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33. Like my granddad used to say....
"If you're going to piss in the well, don't complain when it's your turn to drink."
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:08 PM
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4. ROFL! Sweet irony strikes again!
Deal with it Darth! :rofl:
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:08 PM
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5. sweet irony....
:rofl:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:10 PM
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6. This has the most awe-inspiring beauty.
Have I mentioned before how short-sighted the Republicans are? Why, yes, I have.
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:11 PM
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7. Isn't this sweet! I'm not sure my nervous system knows how to handle
all of this good news.:evilgrin:
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:13 PM
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8. My greatest fear is that I will bust a gut laughing with such joy and hilarity
at it all. Here I go again...:rofl:
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:13 PM
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9. as well they should use it
Paybacks a bitch huh? It's sooooo still in our memories that I am amazed that they are actually trying this. Are they expecting to get the same justices to contradict themselves? What am I thinking? Scalia and Thomas would. They don't let making sense stop them.
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:15 PM
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10. First the Military Commissions Act.....
opens these war criminals to legal prosecution worldwide. :woohoo:

And now this!!

:rofl: <---Bill Clinton

It seems like the repugs can't grasp the concept of the "law of unintended consequences."
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:16 PM
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11. ahhhhh payback..isn`t it sweet?
i`d say so....
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AdvancedProgress Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:18 PM
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12. How awesome is this...
It's the best news I've heard all day!

:thumbsup:
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:18 PM
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13. Sweeeeeet baybay!
Wonder how he's liking THAT!!!!

:rofl:
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:18 PM
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14. Irony is a beautiful thing sometimes
har de har har
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:19 PM
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15. They've just got to have a way to squirm out of this
I just can't believe they are going to actually go testify. I will believe it when I see it but Cheney is just too slippery and evil, and absolutely determined to destroy anyone who gets in his way, how the hell is he going to avoid court?

:scared:

I'm actually afraid for the Wilsons. I really am. I believe they are one of the biggest potential bludgeons against this Admin which means they are really in a lot of jeopardy.

Stay off small planes Val and Joe! (and keep your beautiful children close).
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:20 PM
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16. Fascism eats everyone.
Even its own.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:24 PM
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17. Cheers for the worm and KARMA!!! Wooooohoooooo! What a great cause too!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:26 PM
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18. ... bu-bu-but..THIS is a time of wa-a-a-ar!
. . . there must be some signing statement somewhere covering this. . . (shuffle, shuffle)
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:36 PM
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19. Ouch.....ass-bite.....nt
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:38 PM
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20. Burn!
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:52 PM
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21. This put a big smile on my face. nt
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 01:56 PM
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22. Oh, Snap!
Gotta love it when Karma comes armed with a petard.
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 02:07 PM
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23. Karma Police...
...arrest this man...
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 02:18 PM
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24. B-b-b-but that was about the Clenis!!!!1111!!!
You can't do that! It's cheating!!!
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 02:20 PM
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25. Bu bu but 9/11 changed everything
:popcorn:
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 02:32 PM
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26. karma. karma. karma.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 02:44 PM
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27. Cheney can always argue that committing treason is an official function
of his job, which would therefore grant him immunity. In fact, he probably sees the outing of a CIA Agent as an appropriate activity within the sphere of his official capacity. Hopefully, the court won't see it that way.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 03:07 PM
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28. Idiot Republicans! All these pathetic distortions and subornings of
Justice to condemn an innocent man... and they've come back to bite them in the bum. One after another.

But sweet poetic justice: now their evil selves are being brought to book on their own "gallows". The party of Haman. It seems Monsieur Allen is not one of a kind at all.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 03:09 PM
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29. A new equitable maxim for law students to learn:
Karma Will Bite You In The Ass.
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 03:14 PM
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30. Blam!
Sweet irony.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 03:17 PM
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31. This is too sweet for words.
Edited on Wed Nov-15-06 03:24 PM by GliderGuider
Between this and the way the MCA opened the door for German charges against Rummy, they're getting quite the lesson in blowback, aren't they?
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Red Right and BLUE Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 03:21 PM
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32. Ah, sweet sweet nectar.
Truthy.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 03:37 PM
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34. Not so fast. Cheney will, of course, claim that discussing Plame
fell under "his official capacity" and so he has immunity.

I think he might have already claimed this, IIRC.
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 03:44 PM
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35. YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!
:applause:
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 05:05 PM
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38. so, this is from august. what's up with this now? anyone know? n/t
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 05:33 PM
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39. Read the fine print on the Paula Jones decision folks. It says it only applies when...
the president is a Democrat. Or maybe that's reading between the lines, but the principle still holds.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 05:35 PM
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40. Nice to see what comes around goes around.....
They are now getting what they gave..
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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 05:40 PM
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41. Every Day and In Every Way
things just keep getting better and better!!

Way to host them on their own petard!



:headbang: :woohoo: :rofl:
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 09:37 PM
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42. Ha Ha
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 03:53 AM
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43. Old news (16 aug), but welcome anyway. 40th R
Edited on Thu Nov-16-06 03:53 AM by BelgianMadCow
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 07:12 AM
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44. Hell yeah- the right thing to do- say it loud and clear! n/t
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 11:26 AM
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45. Live by the sewer, die by the sewer. Or something like that.
I have to agree with the SC decision to let the Jones lawsuit go forward...but it THAT suit had merit, how can ANYONE deny that Dick and DUHbya should suffer the same consequences for deceiving us into an unjust, unnecessary, unwinnable war????

Newsprism
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