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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 05:44 PM
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We've got to get the hell out of Iraq.
Period.

We've got to consolidate all of the dems behind rapid withdrawal. If we spend time debating about how we need more troops, and all this other shit that's being testified about today, it's just going to end up getting more troops killed, and then Iraq will be the Dems fault.

Agree or disagree?
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 05:47 PM
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1. agree 100 percent-- GET OUT NOW...
...with all dispatch. No "timetables," no "benchmarks." There is nothing to be gained by staying a single extra day. Get out of Iraq immediately and unconditionally.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 05:48 PM
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2. Immediately, without endless complications while more die
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 05:50 PM
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3. They will blame us no matter what happens. All the more reason to end the carnage asap
Let them say whatever the hell they want. There are lives in the balance. We just had our election and now we've got political 'capital.' Hell, let's spend it to save lives and limbs.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 05:51 PM
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5. The difference is...
if we don't get the hell out of Iraq, they'll be right.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 05:57 PM
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6. Agreed. We have to do it. The Repugs NEVER will. Not one more life wasted, please!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 05:50 PM
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4. Agree totally. We need to get out ASAP; that's why I think we also
need Murtha. He's fearless and will fight towards that end.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 06:00 PM
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8. I agree.
100%
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 07:53 PM
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26. Tell the kids to pack their bags
and SHIP THEM HOME NOW. Let the *mercenaries pick up the slack while the regular troops evacuate, then ORDER THEIR SLIMY PROFITEERING ASSES OUT OF THERE ALONG WITH THE CORPORATE CANNIBAL T-REX THEY RODE IN ON!!!

Seems simple enough to me...
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 06:00 PM
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7. Totally agree. If for no other reason than to focus on Bin Laden.
I don't mind when we attack our real enemies. It's these bullshit wars for corporations that must end.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 06:02 PM
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9. But they say it will decend into chaos...

HELLO?!?! WHAT THE HELL IS IT NOW?!??!

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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 06:02 PM
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10. Withdraw NOW! The life you save may be someone you know or love.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 06:03 PM
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11. why this doesn't have 100 recs, I do not know.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 06:06 PM
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12. I'm hoping because it's obvious.
But I'm worried that come January congress isn't going to be listening.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 06:29 PM
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13. I say - get the troops out NOW, and let the Halliburton/KBR workers "keep the peace"
Edited on Wed Nov-15-06 06:30 PM by file83
their damned selves. Make the Halliburton CEO and executives be the last out of the country, picking up the trash, and sweeping the grounds.

See how they like being on the front lines of their profits.
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 06:36 PM
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14. Agreed.
If the Bushies and their enablers in Congress want to rah-rah-rah some more over this war, let them suit up and get the hell over to Iraq. Let them get deployed for the fourth or fifth time. I`m so sick of all this namby-pamby crap. Stand up on the House or Senate floor and speak the truth. We can not win militarily in Iraq. Can not.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 06:40 PM
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15. It's the right thing to do.
NT!

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 06:41 PM
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16. No matter when we leave this will be the Dems fault
Everything is the Dems fault. That is how the media will portray it anyway. We should know that by now if nothing else.

Don
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 06:42 PM
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17. Like I said above...
if we don't leave, the media will be right.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 07:33 PM
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25. Only if we let it..
We didn't start the fire, but the REPUBLICANS who created the quagmire are incompetent so we have to put it out.

We are only here to mop up.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 06:53 PM
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18. But we have to try and do it without creating a Killing Fields.
3 million were killed when Vietnam ended. I'll never forget those poor people trying to grab ahold of our copters as they left the embassy.

If we cause or even aid in another massive slaughter like that, I don't care whose fault it is.

We need to put an end to the violence there asap. Everyone agrees with that. And I don't know diddly squat about the situation in Iraq. That's for pros the likes of Joe Wilson.

I don't want to see us create another Pol Pot situation. It may not be possible to leave and not have violence now. It may be that we must have a presence. I doubt it. I don't know. I'm just hypothesizing.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 07:10 PM
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19. we have ALREADY done that....
It's done. We have destroyed Iraq. What will happen will happen-- the consequences will follow the cause, no matter what we do. Personally I don't think it will be as bad as Vietnam, but every day we stay increases the likelihood of a worse outcome.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 07:30 PM
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24. Ahh, Pol Pot.
Pol Pot existed because we wouldn't get out of Vietnam.

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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 10:17 PM
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29. I know. I know.
It's not like we created Pol Pot. And it's not like we have a duty to save the world from dictators.

I think we could have helped out in Vietnam rather than just letting them go through the hell they went through.

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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 07:10 PM
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20. Agree
I will allow for some time to discuss the best way to get out as fast as we can but absolutely the key is to get out that debate should be over.

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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 07:24 PM
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21. Agree 100% Get Out NOW
Not another of our military dies needlessly.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 07:26 PM
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22. My nephew is heading over to Baghdad pretty soon
It would sure be nice if he didn't have to go. We're scared shitless here.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 07:29 PM
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23. Begin withdrawal NOW. Get our people out, then worry about fixing it
And never ever let anyone forget the REPUBLICANS created this quagmire and then they needed DEMOCRATS to come up with a plan for them.

Again, McFly is going to do Biff's homework.
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 07:56 PM
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27. I agree, and so does my Iraq War Vet husband
We have to get a plan in place ASAP!

:hi:
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 08:06 PM
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28. We need to do what is in the best interests of regional stability.
Edited on Wed Nov-15-06 08:22 PM by Clarkie1
We need to have a planned withdrawl (I don't know what you mean by "rapid"), but the problem really isn't what we do militarily...it's what we do politically with Iraq, Iran, and Syria.
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