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They really are ignorant and stupid, aren’t they? I’ve often read of exchanges here on DU about discussions with freepers and fundies, and was amazed at their cluelessness, but I never thought I’d be in such an exchange myself!
Just yesterday, a woman with whom I’ve worked for nine years started ragging on me from out of the blue about the election. “I suppose you’re happy!” came her taunting remark. Since I knew she was a rapid Repub, I’ve never engaged her in political discussion. But she through down the gauntlet so I obliged her!
Without going into details, here is the gist of the 20-minute “debate.”
She was happy to have Geo. W Bush as president—I told her that Bush lied us into war. 600,000 Iraqis and 3,000 Americans died for the control of oil…
She believes we need to stop terrorism in Iraq; I said there wasn’t terrorism in Iraq until we invaded…
She said Saddam had WMDs; I said he didn’t: we didn’t find any—she said he did but transported all the WMDs to Syria; I asked her why with billions of dollars in spy satellites we didn’t have photos of Saddam moving over a 1,000,000 pounds of chemicals?—she couldn’t answer me.
I said 15 of the 19 attackers on 9/11 held Saudi passports, so why didn’t we bomb Saudi Arabia into oblivion?—no answer. I said 2 more attackers held UAE passports and Bush wanted to turn over management of our ports to UAE corporation. I told her not a single attacker had an Iraq passport.—no answer.
She said Saddam gassed his own people; I said that’s true—he did it with chemical weapons and logistics supplied by US. I also told her that the incident reported by the corporate media took place in 1988—14 years before the US invasion of Iraq. So, why, I asked her, did the US wait 14 years to go after Saddam? I said Reagan/Bush and Bush/Quayle seemed comfortable with Saddam gassing his own people, why was it different with Bush/Cheney—no answer.
She tried to bring up the recent Murtha reports, citing a right-wing news site; I said I’d have to check on that particular news site to see if it was credible and told her that the Repubs are so upset at losing both the House and Senate, that reports like this will surface more regularly. I reminded her how fervently the Corporate Media went after John Kerry and his purple heart. How shameful it was of the Repubs to question Kerry’s military accomplishments while overlooking Bush the military deserter—no comment.
She began to sound like a parody of right-wing, neo-con fascist Repubs, like she was trying to sound that way for humor’s sake. But I knew better. I was angry at first, but then came to feel sorry for her…
I learned later she belittled a fellow co-worker about the stem-cell initiative passing in Missouri. This fellow suffered a stroke about 10-12 years ago and still walks with a noticeable limp. Apparently, according to two sources, their exchange went something like this:
HER: “I suppose you’re happy!”
HIM: “What do you mean?”
HER: “Well, the Democrats won yesterday!”
HIM: ?
HER: “You did vote for the Democrats, didn’t you?”
HIM: “I vote for the person I think will do the best job.”
HER: She then went on to compare stem-cell research to killing babies
HIM: ??
HER: “Well, you’ll be dead before they find a cure…!”
HIM: ???
I’ve heard that this fellow has stopped speaking to her. It's a good thing she didn't say these remarks to me. As a diabetic, I would have gone acrimoniously atomic.
But I still feel sorry for her…
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