Who will get picked today: Hoyer or Murtha?

[npincus]

Who do you believe will be selected for House Majority Leader?

[wisteria]

1. Well, if it is Hoyer, than the DLC has won along with the media and

the Republicans, all whom have been smearing Murtha and assisting Hoyer. You can forget about anything "real" happening with Iraq too.

[dogman]

7. Murtha smeared himself.

The video evidence is before the world to see. Corruption is one of the prime reasons cited by exit polling for the Democratic wins.

[wisteria]

12. The tapes are from 26 years ago. He was never convicted of anything

or even brought up on charges. Could it possibly be that people get smart and change. I don't like the corruption either, but Hoyer is no saint. And it could be argued that Murtha has cleaned up his act.
Don't you find it a little odd, that the Republicans are all over this pushing for Hoyer?
For me this is about Iraq. The ethics can be worked out later.
You have anything recent on Murtha? Nope, I thought not.

[dogman]

22. It's not my place to have "anything".

There is an honest question about lobbying run through his brother. The "ethics later" argument seems much like the "ends justifies the means" argument the Rethugs have been using. The taint of corruption devalues our side, just as it has theirs. It becomes a distraction and deflects the issue. Personally, my choice would be neither. The lack of conviction argument is also used by the thugs, but that is often determined more by who controls the investigation rather than facts or guilt or innocence.

[sallyseven]

13. Did you see the video? How can you say that.?

[dogman]

23. Yes I saw it.

"I'm not interested at this time." How could he say that? I'm not finding guilt, I'm writing of perception.

[txindy]

15. Any 'evidence' within the lifetimes of ALL the voters?

No.

[dogman]

24. ?

[txindy]

30. Sorry, rephrasing: Any evidence less than 18 years old?

If the 'evidence' (from 26-27 years ago) is older than millions of voters, I don't know that it's all that relevant.

[DemBones DemBones]

17. Too true. nt

[WinstonSmith4740]

2. I sure hope it's Murtha

Otherwise it'll be real obvious that the dems learned NOTHING last Tuesday. Or for that matter, at all.

[baldguy]

3. It doesn't matter.

They're both light-years ahead of the last couple of Senate majority leaders. The Republicans have been wallowing in shit & mud & waste for the last 12 years, and the GOP media is appalled b/c one of our leaders might have a small spot on his tie (but they're not sure).

[IndyOp]

4. I think Nancy is going to lean on members HARD...

Steel hand inside a velvet glove...

C'mon Nancy...

:kick:

[Norquist Nemesis]

5. I voted for Murtha. Either way, the Dems will move forward

but it's probably a safe bet that within 10 seconds, DUs going to divide into two camps and start firing. LOL!

[StrictlyRockers]

6. She is a savvy inside player. She knows how to twist arms.

And she has bucks, clout, gravitas, moxie and the weight of social change behind her. My money is on Pelosi and Murtha in this fight.

When will we know the results of the House vote?

[IndyOp]

27. We should know within a couple of hours... (n/t)

:hi:

[asjr]

8. They will work it out among themselves if the

Media would just shut up. I hate that headline "Democrats divided."

[goodhue]

9. Senate?! You mean House

eom

[npincus]

10. right-o.

thanks- my mis-type!

[Beacho]

11. I hope and do think it will be Murtha

Teach these DLC pricks a lesson

[KittyWampus]

25. DLCDLCDLCDLCDLC. If DU'ers only realised how silly that sounds.

Really, why not just say poopieheads? It'd have the same relevance.

[Sammy Pepys]

14. Steny Hoyer takes it....n/t

...

[DemBones DemBones]

16. Sez you. I say Murtha. nt

[Sammy Pepys]

18. A wager is in order.....

One gold sovereign!

[elehhhhna]

21. WHERE ARE Y'ALL Watching this?

[Sammy Pepys]

28. I've got pretty good seats....

;)

[kerry-is-my-prez]

19. Those new members are biting us in the ass. They're going for Hoyer.

a lot of them anyways.

[Lurking Dem]

20. Yeah

let's go with the homophobic, antichoice guy instead!

[wuushew]

26. Do you see any anti-choice or "pro"marriage crap coming out of this Congress?

It would appear the priorities of this Democratically lead Congress will be investigating the Executive Branch, raising the minimum wage and getting the fuck out Iraqinam. There will be no opportunity for such conflicts of interest as you describe.

Congressional leadership can always be changed following the 2008 election.

[goodhue]

29. The vote was 149 to 86

Vote of new members had no effect on outcome