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dapper Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 10:21 AM
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Du This Poll - Investigation of Don Rumsfield.
http://www.southbendtribune.com

Do you believe the investigation into outgoing Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's role in abuse at Abu Grahib and Guantanamo Bay is justified?

Dapper
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 10:25 AM
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1. done -- but we still need more!
at 45% yes

54% no
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 10:25 AM
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2. it's been freeped nm
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 10:26 AM
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3. done. The majority think he should NOT be investigated.
Hard to believe.
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JoMama49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 10:28 AM
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5. Done, but the "no's" still have it n/t
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 10:27 AM
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4. yes 46.3 out of 676 votes
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 10:30 AM
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6. done and RECOMMENDED - needs help
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Lowell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 10:47 AM
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7. Done & Kick!
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negativenihil Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 10:49 AM
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8. done! n/t
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 10:52 AM
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9. done Yes - 54.7%
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 10:52 AM
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10. Done! 55.2% "Yes" with 831 votes.
Do you believe the investigation into outgoing Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's role in abuse at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay is justified?


Number of votes cast: 831
http://www.southbendtribune.com/
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 10:52 AM
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11. Done, still needs help.
Edited on Thu Nov-16-06 10:54 AM by Window
Do you believe the investigation into outgoing Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's role in abuse at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay is justified?


Yes 54.5%

No 45.5%

Number of votes cast: 817
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dapper Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 11:24 AM
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12. Wow!
and one more K&R and we are on the Favorites list.

350 votes since I posted this!

61.1 Yes and 38.9 No

I'm not even going to get into the Opinion piece from Monday, I already sent a LTE- I'm sure it will not be published.

Dapeper
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LilyLibber Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:41 PM
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13. DUne!
Yes - 61.8 :hi:
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FraDon Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 02:01 PM
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14. 61.9%
of 1131 votes.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 02:04 PM
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15. Absolutely
Furthermore, if the facts warrant (and I believe that is the case), then if the US is not willing or able to prosecute the American Torquemadas than a an international tribunal should be established for that purpose.
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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 02:12 PM
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16. done
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LonelyLRLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 02:25 PM
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17. Yes - 62.3%


1152 votes cast

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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 02:57 PM
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18. Done. We fill the bucket even if drop by drop.
:thumbsup: :donut: :donut:
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 03:15 PM
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19. Done. 62.7% 1198 votes. Keep it up!
:kick:

:dem:
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 03:21 PM
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20. Done: 62.9% 'Yes' 1206 votes.
:kick: & R
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 03:40 PM
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21. done n/t
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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:48 PM
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22. Done...
K & R...

:kick:
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Terri S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 06:04 PM
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23. Done
Yes 62.9% 1303 votes
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 06:29 PM
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24. He Should be Indicted
Rumsfeld Shouldn't be Fired, He Should be Indicted
by Matthew Rothschild

“Secretary Rumsfeld has publicly admitted that . . . he ordered an Iraqi national held in Camp Cropper, a high security detention center in Iraq, to be kept off the prison’s rolls and not presented to the International Committee of the Red Cross,” the report noted. The Geneva Conventions require countries to grant the Red Cross access to all detainees. “

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0418-24.htm

Further Evidence Rumsfeld Implicated in War Crimes
Please read this important post by Marty Lederman, Army Confirms: Rumsfeld Authorized Criminal Conduct.

Here's a key section, but there's more:
The Army's charges against Jordan reflect the view, undoubtedly correct, that the use of forced nudity or intimidation with dogs against detainees subject to military control constitutes cruelty and maltreatment that Article 93 makes criminal. It doesn't matter whether they are or are not "torture," as such; nor does it matter whether the armed forces should be permitted to use such interrogation techniques: As things currently stand, they are unlawful, as even the Army now acknowledges.

But then how can we account for the actions of the Secretary of Defense and his close aides?

On November 27, 2002, Pentagon General Counsel William Haynes, following discussions with Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz, General Myers, and Doug Feith, informed the Secretary of Defense that forced nudity and the use of the fear of dogs to induce stress were lawful techniques, and he recommended that they be approved for use at Guantanamo.
(The lists of techniques to which Haynes was referring can be found in this memorandum.) On December 2, 2002, Secretary Rumsfeld approved those techniques for use at Guantanamo -- and subsequently those techniques were used on detainee Mohammed al-Qahtani.

In other words, the Secretary of Defense authorized criminal conduct.

...

Today's Army charge under UCMJ Article 93 against Lt. Col. Jordan -- for conduct that the SecDef actually authorized as to some detainees -- demonstrates that Rumsfeld approved of, and encouraged, violations of the criminal law.

http://www.discourse.net/archives/2006/04/further_evidence_rumsfeld_implicated_in_war_crimes.html
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 06:57 PM
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25. Done and keep voting.
Democracy in action once again!
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Califooyah Operative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 02:54 AM
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26. done. nt
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 02:57 AM
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27. Done! Done! DONE!!! - YES - 62.9% of 1410 votes.

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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 07:11 AM
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28. done
:bounce:
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Alapop Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 07:15 AM
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29. Done.
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