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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 12:42 PM
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Time for some lemonaide, folks!
Hoyer won. I was for Murtha, but it didn't happen. Either way, WE won!!! The Democrats are in the Majority!

Now for the lemonaide: Hoyer's coordinated attack campaign demonstrates his ability to put up a hard fight. This is exactly what's needed against the RW, Bushetals, and Republican ideologues.

It's going to be a very tough, knock-down drag out over the next two years. So, congratulations, Steny! We're behind you, Nancy, Clyburn and all the rest of Democrats 100% in leading the fight!

Now, let's get to work!
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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 12:47 PM
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1. the thing is Hoyer will not be fighting Bushco, he will be selling out the Dems for $$$
..to the k-street lobbiests and anyone that has the money..

so, we all lost, all America, not just Murtha.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 12:48 PM
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3. DOOM!!! DOOM AND GLOOM!!! DIEBOLD STOLE IT!!! DLC!!!
WHY BOTHER VOTING!!!
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 12:52 PM
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6. Whatever, Chicken Little
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 12:57 PM
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8. Give Nancy some credit
I don't think she's going to stand for it. She's made public pledges and is fully aware of the HUGE responsibility of her position on so many levels.

Until I start to see some evidence of your charges, I'm getting behind Hoyer.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 12:47 PM
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2. Like you, I wish Murtha had gotten the position. But
it's time to move on now. The best to all our Dems. :toast:
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 12:58 PM
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9. Exactly! They're showing a lot of unity with this press conference!
:applause:

Hoyer's doing a great job!!!
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 12:51 PM
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4. I swear to god.. if they don't do something to stop the corruption
and reverse the damage that has been done to our civil liberties and the constitution of this country.. if they continue to play "let's go along to get along"... I'll personally work my hardest to elect the next Repuke president.. then I'll leave the country.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:00 PM
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11. I believe they'll be working on it
and all of us will be keeping their feet to the fire about it! It's going to be hard to hold on to patience...they have smorgasboard plate to take care of!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 12:51 PM
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5. Someone should tell this Rethug hag on MSNBC
since it appears her role is to promote Democratic disunity. What fugging sore losers. Get over it MSNBC. The Dems control the majority.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:00 PM
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12. Who is it?
I've had CSPAN on all morning. :shrug:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:04 PM
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14. Monica Crowley was on there, as was A.J. Stoddard from The Hill.
Both of them being ultra-negative.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:08 PM
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16. Ah. Thankful I missed it
Crowley is a Reagan-is-God staffer and AB Stoddard seems to have been schooled at the Conservative Journalism School in DC. UGH!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:06 PM
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15. Don't know
Some dumb blonde woman Rethug spokeswoman making sarcastic comments. She sure is a sore loser.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 12:56 PM
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7. His coordinate attack campaign against Murtha telles ME
the man has no honor. He'll do anything for power. Sound familiar? We've just lived 6 years of that....it should sound familiar.

Hoyer REFUSED to sign onto Murtha's Redeployment Resolution. What's that tell you?
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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 12:59 PM
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10. It tells me that there is no real difference between the Dems and Refucklicans.

its just a show.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:02 PM
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13. Well, considering Hoyer just called for redeployment
during the announcement of the leadership, that tells me he's for redeployment.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:14 PM
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17. We'll see.
He says that, but these people are so good at saying one thing and doing another. I'll wait and see what he does.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:17 PM
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18. That's not lemonade... that's koolaid you're drinking...
This was a major loss to the anti-war effort and to the Democratic party.

Oh well, all we can do now is watch and hope it changes.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:26 PM
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19. I guess you missed the point. n/t
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:47 PM
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21. Nope, I know that you were making lemonade out of lemons...

But maybe you missed mine. Hoyer isn't just a lemon, he has that refreshing koolaid flavor about him. So far as Iraq is concerned.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 02:02 PM
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22. It's wasn't a Hoyer is a lemon
It was the situation that there were two choices with public campaigning about it that was the lemon. Some wanted Hoyer, some Murtha, others wanted a third (un-named) candidate.

As far as the rest, I haven't drank any kookaide. Don't know if you saw the press conference, but what I saw demonstrated was unity.

A couple of things to note about Hoyer's comments:
1) He stepped up and took the microphone when reporters asked about running against Pelosi as Leader. (paraphrased) "I just want to say something about that. Nancy and I did not run against each other. She ran for Leader and I ran for Leader. Nancy prevailed."
2) He made a clear, concise call that "it is time to redeploy our troops out of Iraq."

So, yes. We'll have to watch what they do and hold their feet to the fire it's what they've said. But, dammit!!! We've worked too damned hard to get where we are! I'm getting behind them and plan to keep them to their word.

(Sorry, getting a little frustrated with all of the skepticism).
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 02:28 PM
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23. No matter who won, did you really expect a different press
conference? Nancy's smile looked forced, not her usual one. She just took a big hit. Hopefully, we all move on and she recovers from this misstep. Hopefully all Dems get united around a message of "out of Iraq - now". Hopefully.
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SouthernBelle82 Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 01:28 PM
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20. Perhaps
I'm willing to give him a chance even though I'm weary of him. Hopefully he'll be helping instead of not.
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