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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:07 PM
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Isn't what Beck asked of Keith Ellison the same thing that many on DU

asked of Dubai Ports World?
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:09 PM
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1. I didn't know that the Dubai Ports World was an American citizen...
and an elected American congressman.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:10 PM
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2. Next time Dubai Ports World gets duly elected to an office, let me know. NT
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:10 PM
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3. Hoo boy.
Personally, I was pretty ambivalent about that Dubai Ports thing. But rather than re-hashing that, let me simply point out the obvious difference:

Keith Ellison is an American citizen (and a member of Congress).
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:10 PM
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4. I don't ever remember Osama hanging out at Ellison' s place
Dubai on the other hand....
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:10 PM
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5. Beck must enjoy being so unfettered by cognitive processes. nt
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:11 PM
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6. Dubai Ports Deal didn't get the vetting or the votes that Ellison went through and won.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:12 PM
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7. Simple answers to simple questions:
No.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:15 PM
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8. Hell no, the King and Princes of Dubai were never elected
to a US federal office. They were never elected to anything, except by the bushes.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:20 PM
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9. Most important, they aren't US citizens.
The comparison is just so silly.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:23 PM
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10. Please Please Please Tell Me There's A Sarcasm Emoticon Missing In This Post.
Please tell me one will be edited in within the next 40 minutes.

This couldn't possibly have been meant as a serious declaration right? Please tell me it wasn't.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:24 PM
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11. racism and stereotyping are the same regardless of citizenship
Edited on Thu Nov-16-06 05:26 PM by RGBolen
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:34 PM
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12. Can you honestly not distinguish between
accusing a human being and American citizen of aiding terrorism strictly based on his religion, and objecting to the privatization of a key security function and the awarding of the contract in a sweetheart deal to a corporation based in a country known to be the home of fundamentalist terrorists?

Can you really not see the difference?
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:39 PM
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13. Please Please Please Tell Me There's One Missing From This One Too.
Others have said it as well. You can't possibly be serious about not seeing the distinction between the two. I just can't buy that. I really can't.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:55 PM
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20. But our concerns about Dubai are based upon REALITY, not stereotypes.
Frankly, the religion practiced by its rulers is of NO interest to me.

The fact that it is a non-democratic, authoritarian nation
which tolerates slavery and is willing to harbor ANYBODY
who can cough up enough $$$ to live there is a VERY REAL
source of concern to me.

So, I fail to see any valid comparison between an amoral
rogue nation such as Dubai and an American citizen who has
been elected to public office by the votes of his fellow citizens.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:41 PM
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14. Last I checked...
Keith Ellison's an American.

I think what Beck asked was more the same thing of what you just asked.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:45 PM
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15. Ah yes, Dubai Ports World (D-MN).
Edited on Thu Nov-16-06 05:46 PM by KamaAina
oh wait, it's a corporation, and a foreign-owned one at that, not a U.S. Congressman-elect.

For the record, as if it mattered, I too deplored some of the more reflexive reactions to the DPW deal, while retaining a healthy skepticism about it for my own part.

edit: spelling
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:52 PM
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17. self-delete
Edited on Thu Nov-16-06 05:53 PM by goodhue
wrong place
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:46 PM
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16. What in the world does Ellison have to do with Dubai Ports?
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:55 PM
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18. As we all know, a company owned by people who are friends with Bin Laden...
and an America Congressman are the same.

We all know Keith Ellison knows Bin Laden, and was responsible for us not being able to kill him on one occasion.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:55 PM
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19. I'm guessing you don't know much about Keith Ellison . . .
So here is bio from his web site . . .

Keith Ellison, 42, is a father, husband, lawyer, state legislator and community advocate.

Originally from Detroit, Michigan, he moved to Minnesota in 1987 to attend University of Minnesota Law School, where he graduated with a Juris Doctor degree in 1990. Ellison and spouse Kim, a high school mathematics teacher, have lived on the Minneapolis Northside for the past 17 years. They have four children ages 17, 15, 10, and 9.

Ellison represents House District 58B in the Minnesota State Legislature, one of the most economically, racially, and demographically diverse districts in the State. He is a member of the Legislature's Public Safety, Policy and Finance Committees, and Election and Civil Law Committee.

Before being elected in 2002, Keith practiced law. He maintains his law practice in the new Minneapolis Urban League building on north Plymouth and Penn avenues, the heart of north Minneapolis. He practiced with the firm of Lindquist & Vennum for the first three years of his career. Thereafter, he was executive director of the Legal Rights Center, where he maintained a full-time case load, while managing the acquisition and remodeling of the Center's building, and instituting a number of new and vital programs. After leaving the Legal Rights Center, Keith entered private practice with the law firm Hassan & Reed Ltd, where he specialized in trial practice.

Keith has a long history of community service. For eight years he hosted a public affairs program on community radio. Before entering the legislature, Keith regularly testified before state congressional committees and legislators on issues including privacy, welfare reform, indigent defense, environmental justice and others. Keith has also organized citizens to address the issue of police community relations - in fact, Keith was directly involved in the effort to establish the Minneapolis Police-Civilian Review Board in the early 1990s.

Recognizing the district's diversity as a great strength, he builds common ground among people whether they are residents of downtown, the neighborhoods, or the North Loop.


http://www.keithellison.org/about-bio.htm

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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 12:09 AM
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24. You've got it backwards, I know Beck is a bigot

I was making the point that people here were saying the same thing, questioning whether a company would uphold it's contracts and behave in a legal manner simply because of what country it was based in and I hate to say it but the religion and ethnicity of the people that owned it.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:56 PM
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21. There is a big difference
Edited on Thu Nov-16-06 05:57 PM by KingFlorez
First off, as others have pointed out Keith Ellison is an American citizen. And second, the Dubai Ports deal had to do with turning security over to a foreign company with questionable ties, not because they were Muslims. It's a stretch to try and compare the two.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:58 PM
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22. citizen vs. foreign country
Wow. This sounds something like the reasoning behind Japanese internment camps during WWII. :crazy:
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 06:19 PM
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23. Absolute Nonsense
Ellison = American Citizen, probably here from several generations.

DPW = foreign company, from a country with a poor human rights record, and a questionable record on terrorism.



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