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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 05:33 PM Original message |
Abandoning the South |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. How about make our southern strategy "labor labor labor" |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
2. Kerry never said that - that was another media spin that too many bloggers bought in their |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 05:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. yep, they are southern boys |
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AnnInLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. "abandon the South" is not bigoted, it is practical |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 05:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Mighty big brush you are painting all of |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 06:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. They = majority. |
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Irreverend IX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 07:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
28. They voted for Carter and Clinton. |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:05 PM Response to Reply #28 |
64. So they only support other southerners? |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 07:14 PM Response to Reply #64 |
75. It says... |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 08:07 PM Response to Reply #75 |
88. I think there's more to it than that.. |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 01:18 AM Response to Reply #88 |
96. Hell, nothing in politics is simple. |
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AnnInLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 06:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Yeah, I did too......but how long do you think it would |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 06:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Get us some decent radio down here and not long at all. |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 07:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
79. Funny that in this part of the deep south we have a *gasp* black |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:51 AM Response to Reply #7 |
93. Given that you are from Louisiana-- |
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Alamom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 06:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Agreed. The Civil War is history. I've lived here for 50 + years |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 06:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. assimilation is starting to occur even there... |
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luckyleftyme2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 06:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. THE SOUTH WAS STRAIGHT DEMOCRAT UNTIL |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 06:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. Not so hard to believe.. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 06:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. I'll flame you. |
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BamaGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 07:04 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Are you from Knoxville? |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 09:56 PM Response to Reply #22 |
42. Yep - K-Town |
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AnnInLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 07:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. thanks for the flame, but in my OP, I mentioned |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 09:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
43. Well, we all did vote for Clinton, except Virginia and one of |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 07:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
80. I LOVE Mississippi and so do most of the others who live here, so |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
50. Arkansas isn't particularly "turning bluer" |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 09:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
33. Hey Ann, |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 05:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
66. AnnInLa your attitude is what cost the Democratic party the southern votes. |
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trof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 05:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
69. No, it's not 'practical'. Here's why: |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 07:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
78. False false false!!!! I am a deep southerner as is most everyone |
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BikeWriter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 07:52 PM Response to Reply #78 |
85. Skit 'em, Home Girl! |
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BikeWriter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 07:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
84. Pardon me if I continue to vote Dem/Lib! |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
8. Abandoning the South would be contrary to the 50-state plan that Dean has been implementing. (nt) |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
10. Thank you and Amen and a great big KICK! |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
13. Why can't "the south" vote for candidates from "the north"? |
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AnnInLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 06:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I don't know either, and I live here |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 07:39 PM Response to Reply #15 |
82. Kind of like bigoted mind sets! |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 06:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Because the north is seen as elite and people think, "How can |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 07:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Bill Clinton was from Arkansas though. Thats the south... |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 09:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
37. Yes - but that's why people thought he was an everyday Joe. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 07:57 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Deleted message |
Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 09:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Um... no. |
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tinfoil tiaras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. I agree. I am not a redneck. I dont own a truck or a confederate flag. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 07:07 PM Response to Reply #46 |
73. And I like your user name |
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tinfoil tiaras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 07:58 PM Response to Reply #73 |
87. hehe, thats an interesting interpretation |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 08:19 PM Response to Reply #46 |
89. But, you see, those are all southern stereotypes. And there |
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tinfoil tiaras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 08:20 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. i know, i was telling people that it wasn't right to stereotype people |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 08:35 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Don't apologize! You are right! Some things don't come across |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 07:41 PM Response to Reply #29 |
83. Well apparently here in the south we aren't "true Americans" because |
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tnlefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 07:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. It depends, the person in question has to seem genuine, which may |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 09:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
34. Ummm... |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 11:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
58. I voted for Kerry and Michael Fucking Dukakis, |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
18. Democrats picked up 4 seats in the South this year in the House |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 07:00 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Yep - and a BLACK man came within three percentage points |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 01:03 AM Response to Reply #18 |
94. Not all of the south is hopelessly Republican |
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tinfoil tiaras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
20. the south will rise again... |
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AnnInLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 07:44 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Good points |
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tinfoil tiaras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 07:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. I agree. I don't want a more conservative Dem. party |
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AnnInLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 08:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. And, we are looking at things from the WHITE point of view |
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tinfoil tiaras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 08:04 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Yeah...I see where you're coming from |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 09:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. Yeah - but Tennessee and Arkansas are. |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 09:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. Again, I disagree. |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
30. This is why coarse-graining is a bad thing. |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:04 AM Response to Reply #30 |
101. You are correct about the electoral college. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
39. She/he already HAS something else to be invested in.... |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 09:52 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Feel better now? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:03 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. I felt wonderful to begin with, Captain Erroneous Conclusion. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:08 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. btw - please don't ever change your last 2 sentences - that's CLASSIC! |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:26 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Happy to give you a laugh. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:27 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. They only make me seem like that to fools. |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:51 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Let's see, I think the response is |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
41. I think we have to compete in all states |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
49. The best way to win the south is to use Jesus against the Pukes. |
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tinfoil tiaras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 11:00 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. I go to a pretty liberal baptist church |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
51. The Democrats need a strategy in all regions. |
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ejbrush (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
53. I feel "The South" is code... |
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JeffR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:59 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Bravo |
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ejbrush (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 11:01 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Aw, shucks... |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 11:10 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. It really was an excellent post! |
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JeffR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 12:09 AM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Seriously, what you're talking about is widely overlooked |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 11:32 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. Yes, yes, yes! |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 11:33 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. Good post, the South-bashing is just a form of anti-rural classism. |
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HardRocker05 (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 01:52 AM Response to Reply #61 |
98. or not; see my post #97. i live in rural SE kansas and let me tell you that the |
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ms liberty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 05:59 PM Response to Reply #53 |
70. Wow. This is the best post on this subject. EVER! |
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ncrainbowgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 07:10 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Hey there fellow North Carolinian! |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 06:59 PM Response to Reply #53 |
71. Thank you!!!!! n/t |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 07:24 PM Response to Reply #53 |
76. No argument from this westerner, BUT... |
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HardRocker05 (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 01:37 AM Response to Reply #53 |
97. FYI, not all South-bashers are northern city-dwellers; many of us have intimate |
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gilpo (601 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
54. It was Lyndon Johnson who said that by a stroke of the pen he was dilvering... |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
62. All the sorts of things |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
65. I love that last paragraph! |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
67. Jesusland! |
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trof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
68. Man, you write GOOD. |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
72. '04 votes for Bush: Michigan--48%, Maine--45%, NY--40%, WI-49, MN--48, CA-45, IL 44, NJ-46, |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
77. Wow!! Just wow! The Lord knows I am only invested in |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
81. Way'at frustrated_lefty! |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
86. so, enlighten us - what southern city has a 50% unemployment rate? |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
91. Abandoning the South to the Repugs is where the Dems went wrong First! |
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HardRocker05 (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
95. you can't blame 100s of years of backwardness on uppity northerners; i'm |
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BikeWriter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 10:50 AM Response to Reply #95 |
100. Yeah, well so's your old man. :-) |
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BikeWriter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:15 AM Response to Reply #95 |
103. ...and what you're accusing US of is prevalent in YOUR post... |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:12 AM Response to Original message |
99. i always thought the south has potential. give hope and prosperity a chance |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
102. Dean's 50 state strategy worked. Note the number 50 |
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Zomby Woof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
104. I'm just a good ol' boy |
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