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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 11:06 PM
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Is John McCain the Anti-Christ? Perhaps Fundamentalists Should Ponder This:
Is John McCain the Anti-Christ? Perhaps Fundamentalists Should Ponder This:

First, I am not a believer in end-time prophecies. I do not profess to know anything about the future whatsoever. It’s not my “thing”. Still, for a great percentage of Americans, it is their “thing”. From the best-selling “Left Behind” series of end-time fiction to the continual release of block-busting movies about "the antichrist" such as the Omen, it is apparent that may of our citizens are, at the least, curious, and at the most, smitten with this subject.

So, I suggest that maybe fundamentalist Christians, who weigh mightily within the Republican Party in the United States, might ask themselves this question before 2008: Could John McCain be the Anti-Christ? Sounds outrageous, doesn’t it? Stay with me here.

Maybe it’s not outrageous at all. Since a great many Americans are inclined to believe that we are living in the last days and that the Anti-Christ is now among us, should not some consideration be given to the fact that the forerunner for the GOP’s presidential nomination is John McCain…and that his very name means “the son of Cain”? In other words, the son of Satan? Stay with me for a moment more.

Mac or Mc is the Irish and/or Scottish Gaelic word for “son”. In other words, the name McDonald or McHarris would imply the “son of Donald” or “the son of Harris”. The English would have said Donaldson or Harrison, but the Irish and the Scottish Gaelic used the prefix of Mac or Mc.

So John McCain’s family name means the “son of Cain”. Why would this be of significance to those who subscribe to fundamentalist Christian eschatology? Because both the Old Testament and the New Testament are replete with references that make clear that the “son of Cain” is the son of the devil. Indeed the “Mark of Cain” is commonly interchanged with the phrase the “Mark of the Beast” among Christians.

Could it be that the Republican Party might be coalescing toward the eventuality of making a gentleman named McCain, a very son of Cain himself, the most powerful single man on the face of the planet?

With the recent international fascination with the royal bloodline of Jesus as evidenced with the Da Vinci Code, I began to wonder about this fellow from Arizona, a son of Cain. After all, the Holy Scriptures clearly instruct us that from Abraham to King David to Jesus, the bloodline is a critical component as to just who is the Christ. And if so, I ask, isn’t the corollary then obvious? Isn’t the bloodline of Cain to the Anti-Christ also important? Would not the sons of Cain be just a little suspect to Christians?

Yes, what about the bloodline of Cain, the man who slew his brother and who from the “the beginning” was marked as the first murderer? Where does the bloodline of Cain, and the Children of Cain take us?

Genesis 4:15 "...and the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him."

Jesus himself referred to Cain in John 8:44. “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a MURDER FROM THE BEGINNING, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Genesis 4:15 "...and the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him."

I John 3:12 “NOT OF CAIN who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother…”

Jude 11: "Woe unto them! for they have gone in the WAY OF CAIN, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core."

Clearly, the concept that the son of Cain is the son of the Devil is a theme woven from Genesis to Revelation. And here today, are we not witnessing a McCain, a Son of Cain, aspire to the most powerful position on earth itself? As a non-believer, I must admit that it all sounds quite fantastical to me. But if I were a believer, I would give at minimum, a second thought about participating in launching a son of Cain to a position of imminent world power.

Modern day evangelical eschatology hinges on the fact that in the last days Satan’s son will walk among us in the flesh. Indeed the Book of Revelation in Chapter 12 says “Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time."

What little is written about the Antichrist and his attributes is found in the Book of Revelation:

Revelation 3: 3 “And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.”

Revelation 13:16 “He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.”

If the mark of Cain is the mark of the Beast, and if we know that the name McCain literally means the son of Cain which is used interchangeably with the term the “son of the devil”, maybe those that are “searching the scriptures” and “watching and praying” for that sign of the time, maybe they might pause in their enthusiasm for putting a Son of McCain into the highest seat of power on God’s earth.

If I believed, I would.


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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 11:10 PM
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1. is 666 on his scalp
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 11:27 PM
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3. "Please allow me to introduce myself...Hope you guess my name"
Pleased to meet you
HOPE YOU GUESS MY NAME, um yeah
But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game, um mean it, get down

Woo, who
Oh yeah, get on down
Oh yeah
Oh yeah!

Tell me baby, what's my name
Tell me honey, can ya guess my name
Tell me baby, what's my name
I tell you one time, you're to blame
Oh, who
woo, woo
Woo, who
Woo, woo
Woo, who, who
Woo, who, who
Oh, yeah

What's my name
Tell me, baby, what's my name
Tell me, sweetie, what's my name

--Lyrics from "Sympathy for the Devil" by The Rolling Stones
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 11:25 PM
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2. Well, we've already seen the False Prophet, or in Bush's case False Profit
in the Unholy trinity of Satan, the False Prophet and the Anti-Christ.
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 11:50 PM
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9. The False Prophet is the United States of America
The Anti-Christ is (obviously) the Papacy.
Satan is, well, Satan. :evilgrin:

All of the above is in strict accord with literal interpretation of the Holy Bible.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 11:30 PM
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4. The Bible does say that even the very elect shall be deceived
Satan can't deceive us for we reject religious mumbo-jumbo, so the only ones that can be deceived are the fundies. All Satan has to do is to seduce them by telling them that their prejudices and bigotry are what God wants.

Jesus never mentioned abortion or homosexuality, but Satan uses them as wedge issues to seduce the fundies.

Jesus always sided with the poor and condemned the rich, but Satan tells the fundies that God will reward them with riches if they give money to their TV preachers, and Satan tells them also that the poor are poor because they are lazy.

Jimmy Carter was a born again Christian and Ronald Reagan was a pagan, but Satan told the fundies to vote Republican.

This list can go on and on...
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 11:34 PM
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5. Hmmmmmmmm.
"Satan told the fundies to vote Republican" and "even the very elect shall be deceived".

"Jesus always sided with the poor and condemned the rich, but Satan tells the fundies that God will reward them with riches if they give money to their TV preachers, and Satan tells them also that the poor are poor because they are lazy."

To that I say amen.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 11:42 PM
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6. May I also add..........
I believe I read that "THE ANTI CHRIST" (there are many little anti-christs) was to be, or has been born, somewhere in the MIDDLE EAST!! I don't remember if I read it in the Bible, or "the Late Great Planet Earth" or maybe even from one of the movies like "Omen" or "Seventh Seal" Someone correct me if I'm wrong????
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 11:58 PM
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11. There were to be many false prophets, but only one Anti-Christ
and a big time False Prophet who would support the Anti-Christ.

There is no mystery to 666's identity. It has long been known to be Emperor Nero, whose name "Neron Kesar" (Emperor Nero--the German word for Kaiser comes from "Kesar") adds up to 666.

BTW, one of the titles of Roman emperors was that of "Supreme Pontiff." Guess who has taken that title?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 11:44 PM
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7. Well he had a black baby.... That answers that question...
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 11:47 PM
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8. Lovely thought, and well-researched...alas,
the line of Cain was destroyed in Noah's flood when only Noah and his family, the seed of Adam's third son, Seth, were saved. The McCain name is no more Satanic than Ogilvie or Stewart. ;(
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 11:55 PM
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10. "Cain" is an approximate spelling
probably given an ancestor of the male line named Kane by some clerk when surnames were first passed out.

The original Gaelic spellings plus counties of probable origin are at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mccaindna/explain.htm

If McCain were the single Antichrist, he'd have taken over long before now. In fact, one of the arguments against a McCain presidency is that he's too damn old.

The likelier explanation is that the Antichrist is a lot of people who want to exterminate the message from the world. We call them religious conservatives.
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FedUpWithIt All Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 11:58 PM
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12. I tend to believe the Anti-Christ is organized religion....
Edited on Fri Nov-17-06 12:01 AM by FedUpWithIt All
Revelations says it will come looking like the Lamb but will behave and speak like the Devil.

Modern "Religion" fits all the criteria of both Revelation and the book of Daniel.

Is there any other thing that appears as Christ, behaves in a manner opposite to the love, tolerance and non judgment taught by Christ, all the while influencing huge portions of humanity? It misleads even the "elect".

Even the reference to 666 is explained by the Bible saying it is the number of man or "man's number". Religion is not of the spiritual, the infinite or divine. While religion may touch on these things, "religion" is a man made entity. It is neither required or advocated by Christ. In fact there are many Biblical references suggesting that many religious leaders are those who lead the devout astray through greed, judgment and arrogance. It also mentions the point that it is "hypocritical" to worship in the open. Then there is the repeated suggestions in the Bible that the "Kingdon of Heaven" is within us. Christ himself even referenced a verse from the Old Testament that said "Ye are Gods". Taking these things into consideration would show religion to be extremely misleading. This is the main purpose of the Anti-Christ. To lead, using a Christ-like facade, the masses away from the actual Christ message.

I want to point out that this is simply my own view after my own research. I do not claim it is the correct viewpoint, but it is something to think about. It changes the whole context of both Daniel and Revelations when they are read with this possibility in mind.
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 02:05 AM
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13. No way...BUSH is the anti-Christ
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 02:33 AM
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14. Nothing like applying Bronze Age superstitions to modern politics
Really explains things
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 03:45 PM
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19. Bronze age superstitions for the bronze age superstitious.
;-)
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 02:39 AM
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15. all I know is that if the Anti-Christ were around, he would be a "friend of the Imus show"
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 07:57 AM
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17. Yes, indeed.....funny, but you might be onto something....n/t
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 08:04 AM
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18. Interesting thought about McCain in that his support could well come
from Fundamental Christians thinking that he is the anti-Christ. I wonder if their influence will be as strong in the next two years, though. Enough to whip up support among non-fundie Repugs, Independents and Democrats?

He's pretty old to be running and he's no Ronald Reagan in personality, so I can't see him winning. Whether he is the anti-Christ or not, he's certainly a strange man with odd loyalties that tend to always be in flux. I wouldn't trust him, mostly because he's a media darling and I've found that those the media love are folks who usually turn out to be very flawed individuals not worthy of trust in high positions where honesty and integrity are sorely needed. :shrug:
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 05:48 PM
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20. This post was wicked of me, huh?
Cain made me do it.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 02:42 AM
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16. BTW the whore of Babylon couldn't be more clear...
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