98,000 registered users 800 donations. ???????

[Warren Stupidity]

Please donate.

[grizmaster]

1. kicked

just did my part this morning

[suston96]

61. Why is it....

..that PayPal is involved? Do they get the extra $1.00 that is "charged"?

Sorry, I do not like PayPal. Long story.

[grizmaster]

66. then send a check

no reason to let the paypal keep you from supporting DU.

And am I wrong, or aren't at least one of the online options non-paypal?

[suston96]

68. No thanks...

...I don't write checks anymore. I use my credit card for protection.

And what is that extra $1.00 for? Does PayPal get $1.00 for every donation?

[grizmaster]

75. money order?

You must pay bills somehow

[suston96]

77. I have no bills.....

Yeah, I do. Pay most with electronic debit. Really write some 10 checks a year.

I donated and then had it reversed because of PayPal. If you have ever had a problem with PayPal you will understand my position.

I will find a way to donate, and have donated in the past, but it won't be through PayPal.

And one more time: Does PayPal get that extra $1.00 charge for us donating?

[grizmaster]

79. so there is no obstacle to sending a simple money order

As to questions--

from the top of the donation page



We recently upgraded our payment processing system so donations are handled securely by PayPal. You do not need a PayPal account in order to donate to Democratic Underground. If you have any questions about donating, please send an email to [e-mail].

[suston96]

81. Thanks.

You answered my questions. Yeah, you did.

[peace13]

2. To those who lurk, please donate!

Remember some people donate annually so they would not be represented in the number every quarter. I do agree that 800 even 1000 is small in proportion to the total users! Even $1 x 98,000 would begin to add up.

[Ioo]

3. Some of us are tapped out...

Not sure you know this, but there was an election last week. I give every quarter, but this time, I am broke. I gave all I could to get Dems elected. Sorry guys, I am always good for something, but right now, I am flat broke on my "Cause" money

[Warren Stupidity]

30. no problem. nt.

[Ioo]

35. Did you donate me? If So THANKS!!!

Thank you so much

[Warren Stupidity]

37. Just pay my kids college tuition next year ok?

Kindness is its own reward.

[Atman]

4. There have been 98,000 registrations, not 98,000 registered users

Big difference. That 98,000 includes everyone who ever registered for an account here, even if they've never posted, or even re-loaded the page since then. It also includes people who've been tombstoned or just left. There is nowhere close to 98,000 people posting. But your point is well taken! Stars, everybody should have stars!

.

[lapfog_1]

6. That would be an interesting stat to know

how many unique posters in the last X days (7 or 30).

Don't know if they can track it, but how many unique views (whether they read one thread or a hundred) would be fun to know as well.

[Atman]

28. Someone claims to have written a tracking script.

Can't tell you who...evil, bad people.

;)

It was created by disgruntled ex-posters on another site, which proudly boasts 205 as "most people ever online at one time" (just upped from 167, thanks to election night). They have about 33 regular posters, and usually their stats show more guest lurkers than members. The guy claims that his script has found about 5,000 regular posters here (give or take a troll or two). But he doesn't open it up for anyone, he just says "I ran my script and found..." They just take his word for it.

The funny part, though, is the way their 33 members BWHAHAHA themselves into a tizzy over DU claiming 98,000 "registrations," at high-five themselves that there are really "ONLY" five thousand people posting here.

Again, though...who really knows?

.

[lapfog_1]

42. Only 5000 regular posters?

That's a great number!

I lurked here for months, even contributed and corresponded with Skinner a few times, before I started contributing. Now, I *love* it. Can't go a day without DU. Probably overdoing it. Anyway, if 5000 out of 98,000 registrations actually post, that's HUGH. I'm SERIES!

I figure only about half of the registered users actively browse... and ten percent of those take part in the discussions.

I used to only visit one day a week so I could catch up on Top Ten Conservative Idiots.

[Atman]

46. That's what I thought

Any way you look at it, that's a lot of "regular" posters. The real comedy is in a board with 33 regular posters ragging on Skinner for having "only" five thousand posters. If we can be sure that number is even accurate, since the guy doesn't provide his supposed secret message-board crawling script. Considering the source, I'd be inclined to think he'd be low-balling it rather than inflating the number.

.

[SoCalDem]

87. I still remember the countdown to 2000..

:)

[Atman]

92. Okay, so it's actually more than I thought...

Number of threads scanned: 8000
Number of posts scanned: 113340
Individual posters found: 5271
Average posts per poster: 21.502562

This is DOWN from 5389 last week.

-----

Okay, so first we have to ask, why was the scan limited to 8000 posts? And in marketing terms, a 2% return on any such effort is considered a very good return...right in line with what Skinner is getting.

Of course, all 33 of "them" have their knickers in a twist over this. Because they're stupid fucking morans.

Too bad they won't allow me to address them directly.

.

[Atman]

93. They only need .66% of one poster to match Skinner's return.

"Even if they have 5000 active members, only 800 donations really, really sucks."

Except for that it doesn't suck at all (Skinner is only looking for 1000 donations)...it is right in line with the typical 2% return expected of any such marketing outreach. Applying the same math to their joke board indicated only .66% of one poster would need to contribute in order for them to consider themselves "successful" if they were even to consider such a fund drive.

Are you Children thoroUghly humiliated yet?

:rofl:

.

[joe_sixpack]

102. Is that the same site you're on about?

They seem to have a hold on you. You should just forget them. They're not worth it.

[Atman]

106. I'm not on about them.

They don't have any hold on me at all. Certainly not nearly as much of a hold as they have on you. What's your screen name over there?

.

[joe_sixpack]

109. I don't have one yet

can you recommend one? Which one did you use? How should I act to get them to like me?

[Atman]

111. You're asking the wrong guy how to get "them" to like you.

I've been banned, remember? But ironically, since then, so has the dick that banned me! :rofl:

Seriously, Joe...what's your screen name over there? C'mon, fess up!

;)

(EDITED to change "mod" to "dick." Much more accurate descriptor for one of the most notorious fools on several message boards).

[porphyrian]

5. Really, people. I did it, and I'm broke. - n/t

[brook]

8. Me too...

My donation is never as much as I'd like it to be - but I figure it adds up over the 4 quarters.

Please, everybody, give what you can, when you can, to help keep DU the stellar place it is! :loveya:

[MidnightRyder]

7. some of us won't donate beause of the Google Ads

I live in the country so forced to use dial up but when I go from page to page on DU I have time to get a cup of coffee or use the bathroom. Each new page takes a long time to download. Why? It is because the of the Google video Ads at the top of each page. DU Admin is making a pretty penny from those Ads so they can do without my donation this quarter and any other time as long as those Ads run. Bet when I click 'post message' there is time to go out and feed the cat before the next page comes up!

[brook]

10. Donors don't get Google ads. n/t

[Warren Stupidity]

11. Those ads are there because not enough people donate.

According to your message count you have clicked 'post message' exactly once. Welcome to DU.

[magellan]

16. Use Firefox with the AdBlock extension

Really, the ads are no excuse not to donate. No one would have to put up with the ads if more people would donate.

[flowomo]

20. use Firefox and adbloc and then donate....

works wonders for loading speed

[txindy]

31. What Google ads?

:shrug:

[AlecBGreen]

100. well MidnightRyder...hope you see THIS post

WELCOME TO DU!!! :hi: :toast: :party:

Hope you come back soon

[TayTay]

9. Some of us have done multiple donations this year

just not in the fundraising period.

do those count for less?

[Warren Stupidity]

13. Of course not.

My only point is that what the heck it only takes a measely 1000 donations to get that awful picture of the preznet off of the top of the page. If you are a donor, you've done your part. If you aren't, what is your problem?

[Subdivisions]

78. I donated during the 3rd Quarter drive but this time I am just

flat broke. Will I lose the star I already have? I've been here for just a few months and DU is the first internet site I ever donated to and if I could squeeze ten bucks out of a turnip right now, I'd give it to DU.

I will donate again as soon as I can afford it. Thanks for cheerleading the fund drive, Warren. Keep up the good work!

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

88. Don't worry, your star is good for one year

You're a star for giving what you can. :pals:

[Subdivisions]

110. Thanks! I might just have to give in and donate. I don't have

much time left to think about it and my mouse finger is getting real itchy.

[nonconformist]

12. I'm broke, man.

My husband just started working again last month after being laid off for most of the year, so we're way behind on bills. I just lost my star *sob*, so I'll will try to make a small donation in the next couple of days.

[Lochloosa]

15. Enjoy your star nonconformist.

All I ask is for you to pay it forward sometime in the future.

:toast:

[nonconformist]

19. Wow! Thank you so much!

I will definitely pay it forward just as soon as I can.

:pals:

[Lochloosa]

24. Your welcome. I love giving away stars

:pals:

[NavyDavy]

14. i have enough trouble getting food and winter clothes for my

daughter, so I love DU but I just can't make any donations at this time.

[Lochloosa]

17. For your daughter NavyDavy

Just pay it forward in the future to someone.

:toast:

[Sadie5]

18. Via mail

I always send mine in by snail mail. I donate every quarter but can't give a lot.

[DancingBear]

21. Some have moved their donations

Groupspeak doesn't do it for them.

Just sayin'.

[shadowknows69]

22. I honestly would

but 10 dollars either way to me right now represents the difference in being able to keep the internet that I read DU on so you see my dilemma.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

23. Please Don't Pretend To Be So Naive As To Believe There Are 98,000 Active Users Here.

I hate when posters try and use that number as if it has legitimate meaning.

But I do agree that whoever can donate, should.

[Warren Stupidity]

27. I'm searching for where I said active users.

But thanks for the lecture. And thanks for donating.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

32. You're Implying That There Are 98,000 Users Visiting This Board During This Donation Period.

That is a completely misleading and false comparison and you know it.

It is probably several thousand at best.

But I still think any of them that can donate should.

[Warren Stupidity]

36. I'm reporting exactly what it says on the DU banner.

"98,248 user registrations".

Go complain to the admins if you think this is a bogus number.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

86. No, The Number Is Fine. Your Interpretation Of It Isn't.

It says 98,255 registrations since January 2001. That just means that since 01/2001 that many usernames have been created. Many were repeat disruptors/freepers, many members since tombstoned and many that are members who may not have been here for years. The number is accurate, it just reflects how many sign-ups there have been since that time.

In your OP, however, you are insinuating that all 98,255 users are current and active members of our community, so therefore our donation numbers should be much higher. Using that number as a benchmark or data point for anything current would be really silly. It is just an historical count. It shows how many members this site has had during the course of its entire life. It isn't in any way saying that is how many members we CURRENTLY have in our community, and I believe you know that. Therefore, using that number as a comparison to our CURRENT donation activity is just completely meaningless.

[filer]

25. I donated and switched to the monthly method.

It's just easier for me that way. I do the same with BartCop, same credit card. So next time, I guess, it'll look like I didn't donate, except that I'll still have my star.

[Tess49]

74. Hey filer, how you doing?

[filer]

76. Hey there.

What's up? Playing hooky?
:)

[AnnInLa]

26. Well, I'm kinda confused.....do most of you

donate once a year, once every quarter, or what? What if you want to give a rather good/big donation just once a year....do you lose your star after the next quarter, or is it good for the whole year that you gave?

[Warren Stupidity]

29. You keep your star. nt.

[txindy]

33. You keep it for 12 months. yes.

:hi:

[grizmaster]

43. it's good for 12 months

Which is usually all I can do. Was psyched to realize today I was ahead on a few bills and kicked in to get that spiffy 4th quarter banner.

[EvolveOrConvolve]

94. I donate every other quarter

and the star is good for a whole year, so I'm golden.

[Pugee]

34. I gave what I could when I joined earlier this year,

However, I have been out of work since August. When I am working again, I will donate again. I think that it is a great website and I spend a lot of time here. k&r

[MANative]

38. I wish I could...just completely broke

right now. November fund drives after elections can be difficult...

[IronLionZion]

39. yeah, already done buddy

;)

[Scout1071]

40. I'm all tapped out from giving to so many candidates.

And the holidays coming up.

And they just raised my rent.

Sorry. Next fund drive.

[gizmonic]

99. Scout -- I sent ya a li'l DU love -- enjoy your star!

gizmonic:hi:

[ProfessorGAC]

41. Don't Forget, Warren

Those of us who are monthly subscribers are not counted in that money. And, there's lots of us. Skinner told me this himself, so i know that's correct. Otherwise, the donation meter wouldn't start at zero. It would be at several hundred (maybe more) from moment one! I've been donating monthly for about 5 years, and i don't get counted. I don't get the little "i donated" thingie either, but i know i give every month.
The Professor

[IronLionZion]

45. Oh wow, good for you

I didn't even think of that. I suppose that's an even more reliable source of funding for DU.

[never cry wolf]

48. Me too

I started the monthly donation shortly after I discovered this site and registered in 2003. A few months ago I emailed Skinner and asked if I could get another DU bumper sticker as the one I got when first donating was pretty rag tag by now. He was very gracious and acknowledged that monthly subscribers did not get the recognition they deserve, and soon after I got 2 new bumper stickers in the mail.

[InternalDialogue]

49. Professor, I donate monthly, and I get that banner.

I'm either a glitch in the system for getting the banner, or you are for not getting it.

:shrug:

[Warren Stupidity]

50. The admins should fix it so that monthly donors show up

as having participated in the quarterly fund drive (without counting on the annoying trackbar.)

[InternalDialogue]

54. I think that's what I'm saying.

I get the "I donated" red text in my post headers from a montly donation, not a one-time drive donation.

As for whether my monthly donation counts in the quarterly numbers at the top of the page, I don't know.

I wonder if getting my "I donated" text comes from the timing of my monthly payment. If my recurring payment comes in during the drive, it counts. Maybe someone else making a monthly donation that recurs outside of the drive period doesn't get recognition.

[ProfessorGAC]

57. I See It On Yours

But, it's not on mine, and i just talked to Skinner yesterday. (By PM) So, it's something weird. Maybe for people who've been paying monthly for a long time, don't trigger that icon.
The Professor

[never cry wolf]

53. Hunh weird

I just noticed that I have the banner too.

[ProfessorGAC]

60. Yep. I Think It's Timing

I got the PM from the admins about donating, and i sent Skinner a PM asking if that was a mistake. He said i wasn't supposed to get that letter, as monthly donators weren't supposed to get it. Maybe those of us who've been doing that a long time, slipped through the cracks.
The Professor

[never cry wolf]

64. I think so too

I donated during the first quarterly fund drive I saw on DU. Assuming the drives have been held the same time of year I am guessing that my monthly payment would then be recorded during the drives.

[Career Prole]

85. I went "monthly" a year or two ago myself even though

I don't post much anymore. I consider it a wise investment.

[The Anti-Neo Con]

44. OK, well I just donated!

All I could give was $10, but I hope it helps.

[Lochloosa]

55. Every bit helps. And thanks Anti-Neo Con

[AdvancedProgress]

47. Done.

Hopefully things will improve in the new year for a raise.

:party:

[grizmaster]

51. thanks and welcome aboard

I know how you feel about the work situation.

I just accepted a severance package today where I work. So it meant I had extra to kick in this time, but I'm in limbo for work as of two weeks from today.

Here's hoping the new year sees better work (or at least paychecks) for both of us.

[LilyLibber]

52. Thanks again to zuzu98

who donated in my name while I straighten out my health-related issues and expenses! :pals: It'll be my turn next time around! :hi:

[mirandapriestly]

56. Maybe they're waiting to punch Bush in the head

I was, but I'll do it now.

[andyhappy]

58. just got off my keister

and threw down some greebacks for the DU!

[mirandapriestly]

59. Do We still have Paypal option???

that's better because I can use a "cash" account instead of credit.

[Warren Stupidity]

62. yes nt

[ComerPerro]

63. You obviously have cash to spare. Why not donate for others?

[Warren Stupidity]

70. Uh, I have. What's your point?

As have several other people in this thread. I see a few I'm brokes up there without donor angels. Feel free.

[ComerPerro]

71. So do it some more, and stop trying to force people to donate

[Warren Stupidity]

72. I'm not forcing anyone to do anything.

I am amazed by your response though. Have a nice day.

[ComerPerro]

73. You are invoking moral superiority, telling people they are shameful if they didn't donate

While praising yourself for having donated.

There are already plenty of fundraising measures going on on the site.

We don't need people like you rubbing it in.

Do you honestly think that people who could donate and haven't are going to be swayed by your post? Like maybe they didn't realize this was the quarterly fundraiser?

Given that and by your choice of phrasing, this post was obviously an effort to chastise those who have not yet given.

[mtnsnake]

82. I coudn't agree more with you

Good post.

[file83]

108. I think you are reading just a BIT TO DEEPLY into the message.

The point is that there ARE people that CAN & SHOULD donate. Those people know who they are. They've got a little extra cash lying about that they know they can donate. Obviously not everyone can afford it nor is anyone OBLIGATED to.

It's just a verbal "kick in the pants" to remind those than are "contemplating" donating but just haven't done it.

I was procrastinating for a while, then I read a post that asked DUr's to please donate...so I finally did.

Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with not donating. No big deal!

[semillama]

65. I donated right before the fund drive

Needed my star back!

[KharmaTrain]

67. I'm Still Offering To Give Two Stars...

...to needy Du'ers who have at least 500 or so posts or other proof they're not trolls. I'm ready to hit up the kitty and want to help both DU and DU'ers. PM me if you want the star. I'm gonna feed the grovelbot tonight, so don't wait.

And, yes, I'm one of those who waits to get a good shot at booshie boys schnoz.

[Lochloosa]

69. Kick for KharmaTrain's two stars...

[grizmaster]

80. hope you land the final punch

nice of you to kick in for others

[KharmaTrain]

83. Well The Two Stars Are Spoken For...For Today

If I don't see that face smashed by tomorrow I'll probably be back for one or two more shots.

Cheers...

Welcome to all new DU members...and here's inviting those who can support this place to help those who are a little short or down on their luck.

[geiger]

84. It's PayDay. Let's see if we hit 1000 before 5!

[Zodiak]

89. Would love to

But I am in the last quarter of my PhD and have lots of data, but not two pennies to rub together.

I did, however, become a card-carrying member of the DNC with my $25 donation a couple of months ago. I have never been more proud to carry ANY card knowing that it was Howard Dean's 50 state strategy I was supporting. I show it to people like a baby's photo with a big smile on my face.

When I graduate and get a job, I will be first in line to donate to DU. It is my favorite website, after all....but the DNC took priority this year.

[williesgirl]

90. Just donated beginning of November.

[recoveringrepublican]

91. My job is being consolidated, and I'm profoundly hard of hearing...

when I get a new job I promise I will donate asap, hopefully that won't be long.

[Greyhound]

95. 98,000 registrations, not 98,000 users. n/t

[Rainscents]

96. I donate to every fund drive...

I use DU a lot even thou, I don't post very much. I like reading what others have to say and get up to date, real breaking NEWS!

[sutz12]

97. I'm in....Patience grasshopper....over 900 now.

:)

[JP Belgium]

98. just had a look at the exchange rate

looks OK, so I'm in!

[Zodiak]

101. Whoever did that for me is the greatest DUer in history.

at least in my mind. That was most generous and greatly appreciated.

Whomever you are, I will be certain to pass it along when the funds become available (hopefully soon!!).

And I owe you one.

[GrantDem]

104. Self delete....

Wrong thread

[Codeblue]

103. The problem

is my checking account is overdrawn. Been some hard times lately and I can't really afford to spend ANY extra money on ANYTHING.

[OSX]

105. I donated...

...and it felt soooo good.

-osx

[tinfoil tiaras]

107. I cant right now because it's x-mas and my family's tight for money

that and private school tuition is alot...i know, $10 isnt alot, but, I dont think my mom'll donate again until my star needs renewing (sometime next summer)

[hsher]

112. You've donated to PBS and NPR stations and you ask this? :)

Welcome to "how it is", baby! :)
I donated.