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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 06:14 PM
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UCLA Chancellor releases statement about taser incident.
Updated Statement from Chancellor Abrams About the Incident at Powell Library

A number of students, parents and members of the public have contacted me to express their concern about Tuesday evening's incident in which university police took a student into custody at Powell Library. Since the incident, I have been in close contact with the chief of police and have asked that the investigation into the actions of all involved move at the quickest pace possible without sacrificing fairness.

I am committed to our country's system of due process — which counsels us not to rush to judgment. It would be best if everyone, within and without the university, would withhold judgment pending review of the matter. I, too, have watched the videos, and I do not believe that one can make a fair judgment regarding the matter from the videos alone. I am encouraged that a number of witnesses have come forward and are participating in the investigation.

To parents who are concerned about the safety of their children at the university, student safety and treatment are of paramount concern at UCLA. Indeed, this incident arose out of a university policy that is designed to ensure student safety, which requires persons in the library after 11:00 p.m. to be prepared to identify themselves.

There are conflicting reports of what transpired in this matter. I am confident that the review process underway will lead to a complete and accurate story of what took place. We must let the fact-finding process take its course.

-UCLA-

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 06:15 PM
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1. Feh.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 06:15 PM
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2. .
Edited on Fri Nov-17-06 06:16 PM by Mythsaje
<<To parents who are concerned about the safety of their children at the university, student safety and treatment are of paramount concern at UCLA. Indeed, this incident arose out of a university policy that is designed to ensure student safety, which requires persons in the library after 11:00 p.m. to be prepared to identify themselves.>>

Or be prepared to have the shit shocked out of them.

Just so you know.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 06:17 PM
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3. Well, UCLA is certainly not going to be high on the list
Edited on Fri Nov-17-06 06:27 PM by Pithlet
of schools I want to encourage my kids to go to.

Though it's no surprise he's playing CYA. I'm sure they'll be looking at a lawsuit, and he's likely facing a lot of worried and/or pissed off parents.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 06:17 PM
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4. heh
he was bombarded with email (i sent one myself). it's good that he has jumped on this immediately. wonder what these "conflicting reports" would be...:eyes:
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 07:56 PM
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15. You can bet he's shaking in his boots
and has been in touch with Steve Yagman's office.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 06:18 PM
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5. Well the Chancellor is going to get bashed
He pretty much said the same thing I did. I guess it's true great minds think alike! :hide:
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 06:25 PM
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6. Makes sense to me. n/t
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 06:34 PM
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7. Huh?
It makes sense that failure to produce ID on demand should be instantly punished by severe torture? That makes sense?
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 06:59 PM
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8. Please provide support re "instantly punished by severe torture". n/t
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 07:03 PM
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9. Oh go watch the video.
Please inform yourself before opining on the topic. The poor kid was repeatedly tortured by the campus police, the last few times for being incapable of standing up due to the prior attacks. Tasered at least three times by my horrified recollection, and probably more, all within the space of a few minutes. Students attempting to intervene, simply by asking for a badge number, were threatened with the same treatment. If you do not understand just how painful getting tasered is I urge you to just listen to the video, don't even watch it.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 07:10 PM
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10. I watched the complete video yesterday and I did not see what you claim. n/t
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 07:11 PM
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11. Then you and I are in different realities. nt.
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PreacherCasey Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 07:14 PM
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12. LOL for the first time in a long time. Thank you!
:spray:
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 07:45 PM
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14. Apparently so! I deal with facts and others deal with fantasies. Sweet dreams.
:hi:
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 07:14 PM
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13. Don't feel bad I didn't see it either.
Thats why I am waiting to see what the investigation reveals. Some people get really upset here when you don't see what they claim to see.
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 08:00 PM
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16. At this point, that's about all he can say.
We'll see if there is a real investigation. But realistically, he can't pre-judge it now.
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