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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 08:06 PM
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Clear Evidence 2006 Congressional Elections Hacked
November 17, 2006 at 10:59:41

OpEdNews Exclusive
Clear Evidence 2006 Congressional Elections Hacked

by Rob Kall

Results Skewed Nationwide In Favor of Republicans by 4 percent, 3 million votes

A major undercount of Democratic votes and an overcount of Republican votes in U.S. House and Senate races across the country is indicated by an analysis of national exit polling data, by the Election Defense Alliance (EDA), a national election integrity organization.

These findings have led EDA to issue an urgent call for further investigation into the 2006 election results and a moratorium on deployment of all electronic election equipment. "We see evidence of pervasive fraud, but apparently calibrated to political conditions existing before recent developments shifted the political landscape," said attorney Jonathan Simon, co-founder of Election Defense Alliance, "so 'the fix' turned out not to be sufficient for the actual circumstances." Explained Simon, "When you set out to rig an election, you want to do just enough to win. The greater the shift from expectations, (from exit polling, pre-election polling, demographics) the greater the risk of exposure--of provoking investigation. What was plenty to win on October 1 fell short on November 7.

"The findings raise urgent questions about the electoral machinery and vote counting systems used in the United States," according to Sally Castleman, National Chair of EDA. "This is a nothing less than a national indictment of the vote counting process in the United States!"



"The numbers tell us there absolutely was hacking going on, just not enough to overcome the size of the actual turnout. The tide turned so much in the last few weeks before the eleciton. It looks for all the world that they'd already figured out the percentage they needed to rig, when the programming of the vote rigging software was distributed weeks before the election, and it wasn't enough," Castleman commented.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_rob_kall_061117_clear_evidence_2006_.htm
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 08:07 PM
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1. kick
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 08:11 PM
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2. K & R.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 08:12 PM
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3. this has been posted - 120 R's on the Greatest page
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 08:16 PM
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5. yes but I'm glad to see it get attention in GD too :)
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 08:15 PM
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4. Conyers outta be on top of this.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 08:20 PM
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6. I don't know about this source:
And I don't QUITE know what to make of the hallowed
halls of the EDA (The "Election Defense Alliance")
Leaders, pictured here:



Anyone?
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 09:09 PM
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9. You prefer luxury corporate offices with Jackson Pollack's on the walls?
A suite in the Watergate Hotel, where James Carville might be hanging out? What?

Truth could not emerge, in your opinion, from the slums of Mexico City? Or the ghettos of Cleveland? Or the "hallowed halls of EDA"? It has to be well-heeled? Bought and paid for? Making a profit? Accompanied by cocktails in teak-paneled law offices? Wearing a thousand dollar suit? Word processed in the "hallowed halls" of that famous truthtelling organization, the New York Times? Packaged by a multi-million dollar "think tank"? Slick, well-dressed, make-up perfect, hair blow-dried for TV? Coming from a sanctioned commentator of the war profiteering corporate news monopolies? Emitting from the mouth of a corporate-funded academic "consultant"?

You don't like the table, the chair, the bowl of apples, the cheap drapes, the black t-shirts?

Just what are you SAYING, Passing Fair? Please explain yourself. And please forgive me if I misunderstood your hit and run post on behalf of electronic voting corporations and their corrupt political colluders.
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 09:20 PM
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10. On the mark
You really nailed a few things there. One of them was the engineered belief that we can only learn from and believe the experts. Well as anyone who has thoroughly thought this through would recognize that belief is counter to a democracy, in fact leads to an elite opinion ruling framework to what we deem as acceptable facts. That's a top down method of controlling how and what people think.

I applaud your post.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 09:22 PM
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11. Oh come on, who ARE these guys?
Edited on Fri Nov-17-06 09:25 PM by PassingFair
Have YOU heard of them before?

I don't know anything about Opednews OR Rob Kall, either....

Here's another one of his web sites, for what it's worth.


Jeez?

Question much?



http://www.futurehealth.org/

:rofl:
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 09:32 PM
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12. I am not a corporate backer, and I am NOT a hit and run poster.
But did check the source? I have never heard of them before.
Do you believe everything you read.

This stuff reads like the Weekly World News for pete's sake.

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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 09:52 PM
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14. Fellow is an expert - and has written on the subject for years - but of course the reader judges
bias, and O'Dell certainly has a point of view.

Bruce O'Dell, Partner, Digital Agility Incorporated www.digitalagility.com
Member, ACM SIGSOFT, SIGMETRICS, SIGART bodell@digitalagility.com
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HomerRamone Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 12:38 AM
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17. Have you learned how to Google somebody yet?
There is loads of stuff out there by these people. I have been reading Op-Ed News and going to hear Jonathan Simon speak and working with Sally Castleman for years. Do a little research before casting aspersions...
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 04:32 PM
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24. Heh Heh. You are my hero, seriously. Great response to a shallow at theleast and possible "colluder"
. NGU Peace Patriot!

HCPB's NOW!!!
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 03:24 PM
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22. One thing's for certain...
That two liter Coke bottle in the foreground is going to be turned into a gravity bong before the evening's out.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 08:50 PM
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7. B.S.
it is weak evidence of the worst kind. A complete lack of understanding with regard to voluntary polls and the reasons they have margins of error and other factors that skew the results one way or the other.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 09:42 PM
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13. ? - there is indeed more to exit polls, but what are the kids making errors about?
Just for the record, this same technique was used by TIA to show the 04 official exit poll results were impossible - based on the who did you vote for in 2000 question.

There are indeed errors in exit polls, but the corrections we currently do to get to a fit to the recorded vote generate results that imply the impossible - leaving one with the thought that perhaps the recorded vote may have some problems beyond vote suppression, or we need a lot of work on doing a better "fit".
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 10:05 PM
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16. From polling organizations
there have been reports that describe up to 50% refusing to particpate when approached for exit polls. Unless it is better understood why that many people are not participating I fail to see how these polls can be any more accurate than telephone polls. Imagine that some voters believe they are not voting for the expected winner. They could make a decision to answer exit polling questions or not based on that belief. I don't know how it plays out, but some related studies on so called non-responders indicate the possibility for previously underestimated error.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 12:45 AM
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18. they are not more accurate than telephone polls - but "substitution" was
shown long ago to be a clean reaction to a refusal to participate - the math works fine with it.

But of course exit poll substitution is not the same as random telephone substitution - or is it.

You seem to be indicating poll bias because of expected outcome - similar to reluctant responder problem, only this time the 3 pm news might affect the degree of the problem - so the exit poll could never be designed so as to minimize the problem. First thought is that the effect would be deminimus - but I really have no clue.

I'm too tired to think about that - and my background is just not deep enough into this kind of stat work - I do not know all the studies - for me to have an opinion off the top of my head.
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 08:53 PM
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8. kick
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 09:59 PM
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15. So we now have a man date?
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 03:55 AM
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19. was there ever any doubt that they'd try? . . .
they just VASTLY underestimated the level of disgust with BushCo and with Republicans in general . . . and that disgust simply overwhelmed their lame efforts at election fraud . . .
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 12:02 PM
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20. The evidence is flying in from everywhere! We must keep making noise
and get rid of those lying machines once and for all.

Paper only! No delay!
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 02:48 PM
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21. So they tried to steal it but they didn't have their "math" right nm
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wwmills551 Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 03:31 PM
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23. But we won!
Do we still have to bitch and moan about this fairy tale even when we win. If republicans controlled the voting machines then why didn't they give themselves Virginia?
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 05:11 PM
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25. Hi wwmills551!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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wwmills551 Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 05:14 PM
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26. Thanks for the Welcome!
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