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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 09:52 PM
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Larry Johnson :Someone Tell Bush We Lost Vietnam
I had my Scooby Doo moment for the day when President Bush, speaking in Vietnam's capital, Hanoi, said there were lessons to be learned from the divisive Vietnam war:
We tend to want there to be instant success in the world, and the task in Iraq is going to take awhile . . .We'll succeed unless we quit.



What in God's name is he talking about? I realize W missed the last few months of his time with the Air National Guard during the Vietnam War, but I had not realized, until now, that he completely ignored what happened in Vietnam. Mr. President. We fought in Vietnam for more than twelve years. More than two million U.S. soldiers fought there. Almost 57,000 American soldiers died and several hundred thousand were wounded. We trained hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese troops, we killed almost one million North Vietnamese and Viet Cong, we dropped more explosives on Vietnam then we used during World War II, and we defolitated significant portions of Vietnam's rain fores.

And what did we achieve in the end? The United States fled the South Vietnamese capital, Saigon, to escape the invading North Vietnamese Army. North Vietnam "freed" the South from yankee imperialists and set about "reeducating" the South Vietnamese. News flash George. WE LOST!

So, what lesson are we to draw from all of this? Are you arguing that if we had stuck it out in Vietnam and spilled the blood of another 50,000 Americans and one million Vietnamese that things would be better today in Vietnam? Mr. President, that is bullshit.

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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 09:55 PM
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1. evidently, bush was high during vietnam, and he is high now.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 09:58 PM
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2. The man is in denial....
He still thinks we are *winning* in Iraq. What else would he think about Vietnam?

He must be making $$$ off all the sweatshops.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 10:01 PM
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3. Well, you know what they say

Those who don't learn from the past doom the rest of us to repeat it.

Or something like that ...
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 10:03 PM
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4. Don't bother telling him,
just let the man lapse into his delusions.

It helps the Democratic party.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 10:04 PM
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7. He also lied today
he said "I remember following what happened in VN as a young man". He said before that he didn't pay any attention.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 10:03 PM
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5. The man is such a pathetic excuse for a leader, a man, a human being
so embarrassing.

I just heard on AAR news that Condi is saying "The US sees China as threat to our military dominance in SE Asia"

WHAT???

Do these people have a clue what is going on in the world?
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 10:03 PM
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6. Thanks Larry, someone needed to say it.
Seriously. Lately I keep hearing the rw bring up Vietnam as if we should have stayed there and sacrificed more human life for that mis-adventure in foreign policy.

The same question pops into my mind regardless of whether the rw is bloviating about Vietnam or Iraq--win what?
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Christian30 Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 10:06 PM
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8. Is he too stupid to realize..
that he's saying this in a country that is run by the gov't we were against???:rofl:
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 10:10 PM
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9. remember when he went to africa and said, about how africans got to
the US, "they left here seeking freedom". Umm, no, stupid. They left here in chains.

I wish we ran the media.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 10:11 PM
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10. especially when you consider that Ho Chi Minh was an admirer
of the USA; he dreamed of being our ally....
no wonder guys like Abby Hoffman went nuts!
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