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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 10:58 PM
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Have you watched WHEN THE LEVEES BROKE? Did you see
Edited on Fri Nov-17-06 11:16 PM by texpatriot2004
it? I'm finally watching When the Levees Broke: A Requiem in 4 Acts. I have had it on TIVO since it debuted on HBO. It takes courage to watch. So many behind the scenes glimpses of the people who were there. It takes me back to August of 2005. I remember it was a few days before payday when Katrina hit. It was so horrible to watch powerless as the Federal Government of the United States of America did nothing! The Canadians sent people to help us and Hugo Chavez offered help (I don't know if he was allowed to). How is that the US Government could not get basic supplies to these American citizens.

And then there's that bridge situation where Gretna turned people away at gunpoint. Pathetic. Not as pathetic as leaving elderly Americans to die in the streets of New Orleans but absolutely pathetic.

My grandmother grew up in New Orleans and I have ancestors buried there. I wonder if they still are?

I will never forget that day that the Mayor spoke up. I was at the hospital my SO was having heart surgery the news was on in the waiting room. When I heard the Mayor shouting I was so relieved it was the first sane voice I had heard that week.

For the record, IMHO the "looting" and "criminal behavior" would never had happened if the US Government had provided basic needs for the people there.

And that whole hurricane PAM thing, meaning that they knew EXACTLY what would happen with this sort of storm which is completely unfathomable. This administration cannot protect Americans from a tremendous danger that COMES WITH A WARNING.

And it takes 4 days for the US Government to find New Orleans.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:15 PM
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1. Condasleeza buying shoes and going to the theater and playing
tennis...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:29 PM
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8. Bush eating cake with McCain. Cheney shopping for real estate
and Brownie claiming that he didn't know there were people in that stadium days after it was all over CNN. :mad:
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:18 PM
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2. It wan't the Mayor's fault, or the Governor's fault it was the US
Government's fault.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:18 PM
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3. We saw it when it premiered.
Talk about devastating. We literally cried.

We honeymooned in New Orleans. We had planned on returning. Now, the place will never be the same.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:22 PM
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5. What year was your honeymoon? nm
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:30 PM
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9. Summer of 2003.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:34 PM
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11. Happy belated anniversary nm
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:34 PM
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12. Thanks!
:rofl:
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:19 PM
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4. The government called it "looting" and "criminal behavior" ...
Edited on Fri Nov-17-06 11:19 PM by BattyDem
Most rational people called it "survival."

I watched it. It made me so sad to see the suffering ... and so furious to know that our government did NOTHING! :grr:
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:24 PM
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6. Me too.
:grr: :grr:
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Feron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 02:24 AM
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44. Not in my neighborhood
unless you consider jewelry, liquor, and guns staples for survival. The looters had transportation and money, but chose to use the disaster as an opportunity to score free stuff.

While a minority looted to survive, most did it because they could. For example, the CD section in a New Orleans Wal-Mart was looted of all non-country CDs. Last I checked, you can't eat a CD. I know someone who's house flooded on the first floor and the second floor was dry. However looters came in by boat and relieved her of all her valuables on the second floor.

If you had to coexist with the looting scum after Katrina, then you wouldn't romanticize what they did.

The goverment's response is and was abysmal. The take home message is that you are on your own.

Anyhow "When the Levees Broke" is an excellent documentary.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 02:17 PM
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45. most "looting" was for staples, some was for stealing stuff
Of course some people used this as an excuse to steal stuff, and got media coverage, but the majority of people were taking stuff they needed.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 02:54 PM
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47. That's the way I saw it too. Most of it was for survival not
the picture that some tried to paint.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 03:01 PM
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48. but which got the news coverage? Here's a book about NOLA
http://www.chrisrosebooks.com/aboutbook.htm
1 Dead in Attic. It is a compilation of Chris Rose's columns before and in the aftermath of Katrina. Very interesting look at the emotional state of residents.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 03:15 PM
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49. Hmm, I didn't know about the book. Thanks. I will check it out. nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:27 PM
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7. I've watched it several times all the way through.
So much to sink in.

And Greg Palast's reporting has also been very very good.

We can't EVER forget what these people did to the Gulf Coast, what they are STILL today doing to it with their foot dragging and their no bid contracts and their turning away of poor homeless people and their reneging on promises of timely services to homeowners.

:mad:
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:34 PM
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13. Remember Katrina nm
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:32 PM
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10. God Bless General Honore nm
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:35 PM
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14. And the US Coast Guard nm
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:35 PM
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15. And the Cajun Navy nm
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:56 PM
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22. And LT Christian nm
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kdmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:38 PM
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16. I had to watch it in 2 parts
I watched the First and Second Acts and I was crying so hard that I had to take a break.

Despite everything that has happened to these people, despite being ignored by their government and STILL not having their houses rebuilt, they are still determined. I ADMIRE them more than I can ever say in words.

I think people should definitely watch it, but be prepared to be taken right back to August-September, 2005. You will be angry and sad all over again.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:38 PM
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17. I thought that nothing could make me any angrier about the Katrina response
then Spike Lee came along with that documentary....
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:41 PM
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19. Yeah, I can relate to that nm
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 12:03 AM
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25. Did you see Greg Palast's piece? Man, that was ENFURIATING.
Here's a Democracy Now! link to some of the stuff he found -- like the contractor in charge of a disaster plan for the area couldn't PRODUCE A FRICKIN' DISASTER PLAN!

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/28/1342209&mode=thread&tid=25
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 12:05 AM
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27. I never wanted to use this term before Katrina:
Clusterfuck. eom.

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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 12:18 AM
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31. I hate that term but it is fitting for the Government's performance
regarding Katrina
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:40 PM
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18. And more than 1 yr later they still don't have housing there
according to a new NYT article.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:47 PM
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20. And they just shipped people off to whereever they wanted
splitting up families
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:53 PM
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21. The SHAME OF A NATION nm
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Crim_n al Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:58 PM
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23. I believe the whole thing was simply an excercise.
The government was trying their hand at utterly destroying a part of America,
just to make sure they knew how to do it.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:59 PM
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24. Hot 8 Brass Band :-) nm
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Supply Side Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 01:49 AM
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39. Had a dream about them the other night.
Saw them playing in the grand central station in my dream. Dont ask why, just a random dream, thinking about them I suppose.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 01:52 AM
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41. How interesting. They're a very good band. nm
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 12:04 AM
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26. Kanye West was "blisteringly brilliant" nm
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 12:09 AM
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28. 5 damn days in this mf attic, try to use the cell phone keep gettin'
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 12:15 AM
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29. "Refugees" my ass, what did the "storm blow away our
citizenship too?"
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 12:17 AM
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30. and that Silver Headed Lizard's comment about how "things
are working out quite well for them"
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dancingme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 12:25 AM
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32. Barbara Bush, here's my number
I love that woman telling Barbara Bush to call her and say that being displaced (and hungry and sick) is working out well for the poor black people of NO.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 12:34 AM
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33. I liked that too nm
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 01:25 AM
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34. Phyllis Montana LeBlanc that's was her name nm
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 01:51 AM
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40. "...and my being together broke when I fell apart..." nm
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 01:26 AM
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35. "Nothing cancels Mardi Gras Nothing" nm
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Stardust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 01:30 AM
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36. If a flood forced me and my family from our home and I had no money,
you bet your ass I'd loot to have something to barter with. My god, why can't people empathize with desperation? It's so easy to sit on a comfy couch in front of the teevee and judge. It's sickening. Frankly, I couldn't get through the entire program...I really applaud Spike Lee's effort to bring to light the shame brought on by the Katrina incompetence, but I just couldn't watch it. Just too hurtful.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 01:35 AM
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37. Republicans and their media have all the compassion and empathy of
the Manson family.

When they villainies the people victimized by Republican greed and neglect it really pissed me off ...well... even more.
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Stardust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 01:56 AM
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42. Ain't that the truth. I HATE them.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 01:37 AM
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38. DVD due out December 19.
Edited on Sat Nov-18-06 01:39 AM by uppityperson
http://www.amazon.com/When-Levees-Broke-Spike-Lee/dp/B000J10F14
http://store.hbo.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2512106&cp=1885676&parentPage=family

I haven't seen it, am looking forward to the DVD being out. Amazing, simply amazing, the whole ongoing ball of wax.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 02:07 AM
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43. Irish Trojan Blog with Katrina link from the blog
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 02:41 PM
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46. I'm first on the waiting list for it at the library.
I also just checked out a DVD by National Geographic on Hurricane Katrina, don't know if it's accurate or not yet.

I will never forget Katrina!
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 07:28 PM
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50. Good for you, 1st in line :-) and yes, Remember Katrina nm
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 02:57 AM
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51. ComicRelief 2006 on now to raise funds for Katrina Victims nt
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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 03:35 AM
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52. I walked my children, ages 5, 9, and 13 out of there.
The movie/documentary does a good job of capturing the desolation, the desperation. New Orleanians can handle the loss, can lift themselves up and start over. The sense of abandonment and betrayal is hard to get past, though.
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