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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:32 AM Original message |
On the police, some observations |
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Little Wing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:39 AM Response to Original message |
1. Your soapbox is excellent |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. It tells enough of the story that it is clear that cops abused their power |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. On that particular incident it is under review |
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Little Wing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. If I could nominate a single post |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
34. Yeah, but you realize that you are getting kudos from people |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:36 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. Once again |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:44 AM Response to Original message |
2. you haven't met the LAPD |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:49 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. I have |
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Oeditpus Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:00 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I need enlightenment |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Gates held it more or less |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:48 AM Response to Original message |
4. Where were you today when I needed you. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:50 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Watching movies and editing |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:59 AM Response to Original message |
8. For the past twenty years |
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acmejack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 08:23 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. You are exactly right, Mythsaje. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. No it is not, |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. As I said in the original post |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:32 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. I'm willing to bet you that |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. They are not becoming, POLCIE AND FIRE are |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. You're lucky... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. My agency is San Diego PD |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. I may be a little under-informed when it comes to traffic stops |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:30 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. The locals fought it as well |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:33 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. I wouldn't mind sitting on that sort of commission myself... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:51 PM Response to Reply #42 |
55. You are in San Fran |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:06 PM Response to Reply #55 |
86. Nah...much farther North |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:12 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. If you have the intiative system |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:19 PM Response to Reply #91 |
98. Very good points, all of them. |
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TAPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:05 PM Response to Reply #8 |
122. Just my little story here as to most everyone not trusting |
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AJ9000 (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:36 AM Response to Original message |
10. Well I'm readin this just about an hour after someone knocked a hole |
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acmejack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 08:25 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Would promote a little responsibility. |
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personman (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:54 AM Response to Original message |
12. "you always need to give the benefit of the doubt to ALL involved, cops and victims." |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. No you are not |
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personman (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 07:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
132. I never stated we should convict the cops without a trial... |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
13. I see the OP to be about caricatures of reality |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
32. The OP is a case in point. |
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Syncronaut Seven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
16. Also realize many of this country's police forces harbor pockets of violent corruption |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:23 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. This was a statement in general |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
17. I've known good cops, I've know bad cops, hell I've got cops in the family |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. I've talked with cops |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 07:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
124. New Orleans is a case in point |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
28. Just because "all cops aren't individually bad" doesn't mean that |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:17 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Read above that particular case is AS IT SHOULD |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
29. Great cop story |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:18 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I got picked up in SF once |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
33. Well, if you like FR's caricature so much better |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Both are caricatures |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. The only nerve you hit |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:33 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. If you cared to read you'd understand I am not defending it |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:36 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Look, we all know the justice system will not punish their own |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:43 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. The justice system does punish its own |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:46 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Yes, you are |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Son you truly are clueless |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. Then why is Justin Volpe still alive? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:58 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. Have you ever herad of |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:59 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. Yeah I have |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:02 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. Tha is why that cop is still alive |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:03 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. He hasn't been raped and murdered, |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:06 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. Key WORDS for the readying impaired |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:08 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Which is much better than being gang-raped |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:13 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. We will have to agree to disagree |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:14 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Well, I hope you're right... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:44 PM Response to Reply #94 |
108. Oh he will get it |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
35. Very false statement: |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:25 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Not ffrom raedying psts |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:43 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Pro "War on Drugs" = |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:52 PM Response to Reply #39 |
56. Yours is the typical Right-wing straw man... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:28 PM Response to Reply #56 |
104. You are again misunderstaindng, willfully by the way |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 05:17 PM Response to Reply #104 |
116. Maybe that is why San Diego is so Red |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 05:42 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. Sadly san diego is not that red |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
40. People should know that cops deal with the part of society |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:43 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. That's a load of bull |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:47 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Prime example of the caricature I wrote about |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. No, National police force is gestapo. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:52 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. What part of they already do |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:53 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. BULL-SHIT. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:54 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Then go to YOUR CITY CONCIL |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:56 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Oh so you actually ARE a cop, |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. No I am not, but I know plenty of them |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:00 PM Response to Reply #68 |
76. Great. So the cops in San Diego are nice guys. They aren't in certain |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:01 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. I went extensiely into the problem with the LAPD |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:04 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. Exactly. There are systemic problems that need fixing. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:19 PM Response to Reply #84 |
99. I am not defaming you |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:06 PM Response to Reply #76 |
88. It's not a matter of where they are, |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:23 PM Response to Reply #88 |
100. Again depends |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 05:18 PM Response to Reply #100 |
117. I'm always courteous with cops |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 05:44 PM Response to Reply #117 |
120. The problem |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 05:49 PM Response to Reply #120 |
121. The basic fact is that they have more discretion with how to deal |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 09:09 PM Response to Reply #121 |
127. The blue wall phenomena |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:58 PM Response to Reply #62 |
71. Wow you're a cop and you didn't even admit that little conflict of interest? /nt |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:59 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. What part of I am not you cannot read |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:02 PM Response to Reply #74 |
80. Maybe it has to do with your writing not my reading. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:05 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. No I just happen to know them |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Oh please. Cops live in the communities they serve? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:59 PM Response to Reply #63 |
73. Depenmds on the department and regs |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Oh yeah, Colombia's nightmare is entirely the result |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:53 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. It is part of the war on drugs |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:48 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Great solution. /nt |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:54 PM Response to Reply #46 |
61. You're living in fantasy land. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. People who apply to police departments |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:59 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. Oh, I'm the authoritarian now, officer? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:00 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. What feelings |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:01 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Never said Federal |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. Maybe it seems that way from the gated community. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:02 PM Response to Reply #67 |
82. Oh yes, down with authority and all that crap. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:09 PM Response to Reply #82 |
90. What the fuck are you talking about? Where did I say "down with authority" |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:16 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. Well I'm not laughing about the topic |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:18 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. The only person who says "so what" about the dangers of unchecked power |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:24 PM Response to Reply #97 |
102. You go ahead and fear the law. |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:50 PM Response to Reply #102 |
111. "Law," in and of itself |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:17 PM Response to Reply #82 |
96. Any time I drive across town |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:23 PM Response to Reply #96 |
101. Cops are tools that people abuse. |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:29 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. I DO happen to think it's systemic |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:35 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. I know it has grown worse over the last 6 years. |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:46 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. I've actually heard/read some testimony |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:53 PM Response to Reply #109 |
112. I will only speak from my PERSONAL experience |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 05:02 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. Tit for tat... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:25 PM Response to Reply #67 |
103. You sure there are no problems wtih police brutality |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:53 PM Response to Reply #40 |
60. What spooky "part of society" do the campus police at UCLA deal with? |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:58 PM Response to Reply #60 |
69. You are getting the people and the cops mixed up. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:13 PM Response to Reply #69 |
92. Yes I am saying that gated communities in white neighborhoods are bourgeouis. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:31 PM Response to Reply #60 |
106. You know where UCLA is right |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:48 PM Response to Reply #106 |
110. Tax it REASONABLY... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:54 PM Response to Reply #110 |
113. True but it needs to be taxed |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:57 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. I agree... |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:57 AM Response to Reply #106 |
131. I think you might be thinking of USC, UCLA is in one of the nicest, |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
118. Police are recruited from the general population |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
123. Your observations are correct as far as they go, but you've left out the |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 09:14 PM Response to Reply #123 |
128. Yes and no |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:36 AM Response to Reply #128 |
130. Well I referred to law enforcement as opposed to the police specifically, |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
125. Spot on rant |
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Election (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
126. I think it's a mischaracterization to say that the right supports cops |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 09:16 PM Response to Reply #126 |
129. Don't get me wrong |
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greiner3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
133. Years ago I learned; |
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