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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 12:53 PM
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Freeper Castanza posted bail
Threatening Letter Sender Released on Bail

LOS ANGELES, CA (AP) -- A man charged with mailing more than a dozen threatening letters containing white powder to celebrities, politicians and other high-profile figures has been released on $350,000 bond.

Chad Castagana, 39, will remain under house arrest while he awaits trial on charges of sending threats and hoaxes by mail.

He allegedly sent letters, bearing fake return addresses, to Democratic Rep. Nancy Pelosi of California; comedians Jon Stewart and David Letterman; Democratic Sen. Charles Schumer of New York; MSNBC host Keith Olbermann; and Viacom Inc. chairman Sumner Redstone.

The powder contained in the letters turned out to be harmless.

more . . .
http://www.knx1070.com/pages/127261.php?contentType=4&contentId=243196

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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 12:56 PM
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1. a measly 350k BAIL? What is up with that?
350 is peanuts. WE have higher bail set for people marching against the war in IraqNam.

this guy is a domestic terrorist. Just like the cookie baker who tried to poison the USSC. This amounts to coddling.
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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 12:58 PM
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3. Did Jim Robinson have a fundraiser and help with the bail?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 01:00 PM
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4. Prove it.
Provide evidence that bail higher than 350k has been set for people marching against the war. Also, the cookie baker sent deadly poison, this yahoo sent a harmless substance. You really don't see the difference. I have no idea if 350k is low, high or just about right for this crime. Sounds about right to me, but I just don't know. Nor, I suspect, do you.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 01:02 PM
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5. Sounds about right if not a bit high

Are people concerned he might send more detergent to people? :shrug:
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 01:09 PM
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6. There is evidence that he sent several dozen letters with powder.
let's assume that only 20 of those incidents were reported and dealt with.
Here is what happens.
a) The police and FBI both open up files. They assign several people each to take statements, get histories, get contact information, and work hard to build a database of potential suspects based on prior events. THIS IS A HUGE ENTERPRISE when one high ranking person is targetted. When you multiply that times 20 or more, you are talking about thousands and tens of thousands of man hours.
b) The Post office is sent on its own mission to track and do historical searches. They have this capacity, but it also involves many people, and many man hours.
c) Then, you set up another task force to put all this information together. Is it a copy cat? more than one person? A real threat? Or a nut job?
d) You get the labs involved. Test everything, find prints, spore (geographic locators) seed, fungus, hair, even DNA, even before you test the powder. Is the powder from the same source?
e) Phone records. The FBI profilers know that people who send such stuff have a particular kind of ego. They like to taunt their victims, it increases their feeling of power over them and excites them. That means you assign dozens more people to check each phone and add that t the data base.
f) internet - see A, C, E.
g) Then you start with dreary, time consuming police work. Sometimes you get lucky, often you do not.
h) You start personal interviews all over the country, with those people that pop up the highest on your database. This could be hundreds, even thousands of people. Then you check their particular stories for accuracy.

You claim that $350K is fair? With this type of taxpayer dollar outlay? Are you kidding?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 01:22 PM
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11. You clearly know very little.
Bail is not set in conjuction with how much the investigation cost. Nor should it be. Stop for a minute and think what a lousy idea that would be.

And where's the proof I asked for? Make a claim such as the one you did, you should back it up. Otherwise you deserve a reputation for just making shit up.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 03:28 PM
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20. look know it all, it is not the financial cost, there are others.
How about the cost to the people who received the letters? Their time, distrupted work and play schedules, their lives in disorder? Have you ever been involved in one of these event, from any perspective? I have. Have you ever dealt with FBI investigations, the time, the mess, the preparation, the delays and more? I have. Have you ever seen what happens when one of their task forces descends on a client and puts them through the ringer? I have.

Don't lecture me on how bail should be set. While I know of no protester getting a large bail, even the several hundred arrested in Chicago, I am well aware of what terrorists usually get - no bail, no contact with the outside world, no charges - just imprisonment.

Now, you just think for a minute. Imagine that the culprit was not a freeper with his head up his ass, but a muslim religious student, who had travelled to Afghanistan in the 1990s, and who decided to send the exact number of letters, with the same wording and the same powder content. Do you think he/she would get any bail? Ever? Hah.

No, bail is not set because of the investigative costs. However, the threat to society's disruption, the threat to others, the costs to everyone involved are all factors that most courts consider.

Because this guy was a freeper, a conservatve, a white guy who lives in mom's basement, he gets a low bail. Any person of color, be it from Liberty City or from a muslim school, or even, heck, let's say UCLA, and you would see a whole different category of treatment by our authorities.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 01:10 PM
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7. Well . .
http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2000/08/14/police/index.html

"When John Sellers of Berkeley, Calif., chief of the Ruckus Society, was arrested for a collection of misdemeanors -- which he denies committing -- his bail was set at an astonishing $1 million. Though a second judge later reduced the bail to $100,000, it's still hard to square that with the Eighth Amendment admonition that "excessive bail shall not be required." "


All I did was type iraq war protesters bail into google and that was on the first page. Took all of 10 seconds.

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Dick Diver Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 01:12 PM
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9. Really??
"WE have higher bail set for people marching against the war in IraqNam."

When, where, and for whom?
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 02:43 PM
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17. check post # 7, posted 2 minutes before yours
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 12:57 PM
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2. Shouldn't he be eating bagels at Gitmo?
Terror alert code bullshit.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 01:24 PM
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13. And don't forget that mandarin chicken
yummy
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 01:12 PM
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8. Where did he get his money?
At 39 he was living in his parents basement.

:think:
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 01:23 PM
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12. Did RimJob sell off his RV or did he just hold a fundraiser?
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 01:28 PM
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15. Naw, his parents just probably put up their house
as collateral.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 02:38 PM
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16. Probably used the money from their recent fundraiser.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 01:27 PM
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14. His whole story makes me suspicious that he got marching orders
from someone with deep pockets.
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 02:57 PM
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18. Where's the mugshot?
Anyone?
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 03:26 PM
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19. Exactly. Where's the mugshot?
How come nobody has posted the mugshot of this prick yet?

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