Baker's Iraq Group has been meeting since Apr.? and------?

[lyonn]

Yet, the media has been harping on why the Dems. don't have answers to getting out of Iraq and in the process not cause the country to become a haven for terrorist.

Seems Iraqis don't want THEIR country taken over by terrorist either. So, if we leave sooner rather than later they could stand a better chance now of getting control of THEIR country.

Baker so far has no answers, where is this long awaited plan that all are waiting for? In the meantime--------?

This media crap bashing Dems. for not having the Answer to Iraq is a cop-out. There are no absolutes with this war. Is anyone else pained by media demanding the Dems come up with The Answer (to this war that was a lie)?

The Dems have used words like "diplomacy/political and not military to allow the Iraqis to settle their major problems and the need for the U.S. to leave the country" for solving this war. All this is ignored and the media continues to say, so what are the Dems answers!

Guess they need someone to draw them a picture - - - venting!

[seemslikeadream]

1. AND Lee Hamilton

http://www.btinternet.com/~nlpwessex/Documents/hamiltoniran-contra.htm

"......former Congressman Lee Hamilton, chairman of the House select committee investigating the Iran-contra affair, was shown ample evidence against Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush, but he did not probe their wrongdoing. Why did Hamilton choose not to investigate? In a late 1980s interview aired on PBS 'Frontline,' Hamilton said that he did not think it would have been 'good for the country' to put the public through another impeachment trial. In Lee Hamilton's view, it was better to keep the public in the dark than to bring to light another Watergate, with all the implied ramifications. When Hamilton was chairman of the House committee investigating Iran-contra, he took the word of senior Reagan administration officials when they claimed Bush and Reagan were 'out of the loop.' Independent counsel Lawrence Walsh and White House records later proved that Reagan and Bush had been very much in the loop. If Hamilton had looked into the matter instead of accepting the Reagan administration's word, the congressional investigation would have shown the public the truth. Hamilton later said he should not have believed the Reagan officials. However, today, George W. Bush is considering appointing Hamilton UN ambassador."


Just who's side are ya on Lee?

[seemslikeadream]

3. Lee and Dick

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/110500b.html

One of the key congressional Republicans fighting this rear-guard action was Rep. Dick Cheney of Wyoming, who became the ranking House Republican on the Iran-contra investigation. Cheney already enjoyed a favorable reputation in Washington as a steady conservative hand. Cheney smartly exploited his relationship with Rep. Lee Hamilton, D-Ind., who was chairman of the Iran-contra panel. Hamilton cared deeply about his reputation for bipartisanship and the Republicans quickly exploited this fact. A senior committee source said one of Cheney’s top priorities was to block Democrats from deposing Vice President Bush about his Iran-contra knowledge. Cheney 'kept trying to intimidate Hamilton,' the source said. 'He kept saying if we go down that road, we won’t have bipartisanship.' So, Hamilton gave Bush a pass. The limited investigation also gave little attention to other sensitive areas, such as contra-drug trafficking and the public diplomacy operation. They were pared down or tossed out altogether. Despite surrendering to Cheney’s demands time and again, Hamilton failed, in the end, to get a single House Republican to sign the final report. Only three moderate Republicans on the Senate side – Warren Rudman, William Cohen and Paul Trible – agreed to sign the report, after extracting more concessions. Cheney and the other Republicans submitted a minority report that denied that any significant wrongdoing had occurred."

[lyonn]

4. Sure looks like Hamilton has been Reagan/bush/cheney

lapboy. I remember when all this came down and I bought the story that Reagan was going brain dead and that he couldn't help. We the public didn't know the dirty dealing between the CIA, Bush, and the repub. party using the chant, let's not hurt our country with this dirty laundry being aired.

Now they are using Hamilton for important investigations like the 9-11, and now this. The Democrats can not be patronizing to the evil ones this time. Remember bush's great statement, fool me once shame on me...

Edit: And thanks for revealing who Hamilton really is! He is not an impartial Democrat. Robb is another version of Hamilton, likes to make like he is impartial and fair. Bushco knows how to pick their Dems for investigations.

[SoCalDem]

5. There is always some democrat willing to be a shill for republicans

There IS a difference between "cooperation and bipartisanship" and "providing cover" for them..

[mike_c]

2. someone needs to hammer home the point...

...that if Iraq becomes "a haven for terrorists,"-- something I frankly doubt in any event, but that's beside the point-- it will not be because the U.S. withdrew, but rather because the U.S. invaded. That effect, if it occurs, has already been caused. The responsiblity lies with the war criminal administration and its enabling toadies in the previous congress.

[MiniMe]

6. I think they have had the results, the first was Rummy's firing

But heavens to Betsy, Henny Penny they should announce what a f*ck-up this war has been before the election.