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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 06:44 PM
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Dear Gov. Dean -- “a lot of power waiting to be harnassed”
Edited on Mon Jan-30-06 06:51 PM by understandinglife
30 January 2006 (# 56)

That’s what I think “We the People …” have proven in the past few days. Senator Kennedy and Kerry led, valiantly and intelligently, and we responded.

As ReddHedd at firedoglake just posted:

All this Faxing and phone calling and e-mailing...has scared the bejeebers out of the Washington establishment over the last couple of weeks. You know why? It came from a true grassroots movement. From anger, from true concern, from patriotism -- from a wellspring of individual citizens who cared enough about their nation to get off their butts and do something.

That is a lot of power waiting to be harnassed, folks.

And the powers that be that have controlled Washington, D.C., aren't the ones in the driver's seat of this vehicle. The citizens of this nation are. Something out of their control entirely -- a group of angry citizens who know how to use communications tools, and who aren't going to just sit by and be silent any longer.

If they think the Alito battle is the only one we're willing to fight, they can think again. This was merely the first skirmish.

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You think we're just going to slink away, tail between our legs and wallow in a little setback? Hell no. Here's the news of the day: the American public is wide awake. And we're pissed.

Link:

http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/2006_01_29_firedoglake_archive.html#113865970738074802


Yes, “We the People …” are motivated and we will make changes.

Unfortunately, Gov. Dean, that also means that those Senate Democrats who paved the way for Alito’s confirmation are going to be held accountable. Accountability really is the core value that must characterize a true opposition party, a party truly committed to the Constitution, a genuine Democratic Party instead of a Republican-lite Party.

One example of accountability -- the cold, hard reality of it -- is that “We the People …”, i.e., citizens throughout the country, not just residents of Connecticut are going to work tirelessly to ensure that Mr. Ned Lamont defeats Lieberman in the 2006 primary.

“We the People …” will never forget today – the day when our civil liberties and the Constitutional wisdom of checks and balances were dealt a stingy defeat because Senate Democrats didn’t have the courage, didn’t have the backbone to serve their oath of office and prevent cloture on Alito. They failed and that to which they wittingly subjected future generations was eloquently stated by Senator Kerry this afternoon:

"We knew we faced steep odds, but we also knew that once Judge Alito becomes Justice Alito, there’s no turning back the Senate confirmation vote. It wouldn’t matter if we spoke up after the Supreme Court has granted the executive the right to use torture, or to eavesdrop without warrants. It wouldn’t matter if we spoke up only after a woman’s right to privacy was taken away and only after the courthouse door was slammed in the faces of women, minorities, the elderly, the disabled, and the poor. This was a debate worth having, and a debate we had no choice but to have today."

Link: http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=1802


The “odds” would have been not “steep” at all, had every Democratic Senator done their duty to the Constitution and protected the civil liberties of those whom they represent.

So, indeed, the road to creating a vibrant, honest, and intelligent opposition party to the vast corruption of the Republicans and their lawless, imperialist leader, Mr. Bush, will be a constant struggle.

But, it became a bit more tractable today because we now know those whom we must shun, those who are not with us, those who must be replaced by persons of the ethics and commitment to the Constitution so well exemplified by you, General Clark, Vice President Gore, Senator Kerry, Senator Kennedy, Congressman Conyers, and others. “We the People …” know the difference and we will make that very clear in the weeks and months and years ahead.

Thank you for your continued leadership,



Peace.

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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 06:46 PM
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1. exactly
:toast:
:kick:
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 06:49 PM
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2. Cheers to that! Harness away!
:toast:
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Fiendish Thingy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 06:52 PM
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3. This is more than just Rep vs. Dem...
It's WE THE PEOPLE vs. any and all the corrupt or complacent politicians of any party...
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 06:52 PM
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4. yep
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 08:31 PM
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11. Its the return of the plutocrats
Plutocrats = a member of a wealthy ruling class or a person whose wealth gives him control
or great influence
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 07:14 PM
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5. I hope Dean realizes that fundraising will change. It is NOT a reflection
of Dean's leadership, but on Dems like me who want to pinpoint their donations rather than give it to the party as a whole. I will only support those Democrats who reflect my progressive values and want to make sure not a cent will reach the others. As much as I like Dean, I truly believe we must rid our party of DINOs, and this is my attempt to do so.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 07:16 PM
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6. I understand and I intend to "pin point" my donations, as well.
Peace.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 12:46 PM
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24. Thanks for hurting the ones who are trying to change things.
You have indicated before that you will pinpoint your donations. You have a lot of influence here since all your Dear Howard Dean letters get attention.

You do not indicate you are withholding support from him, yet you are.

The harder he tries to get the others to speak out, the more letters, the more people you are influencing. Some don't seem to be able to moderate their opinions, and it is causing them to try to hurt the very changes that could help us.

You are talking loudly, but not providing financial support. Guess what, they ain't gonna listen.

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 12:50 PM
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25. I am not withholding support from Howard Dean and you are way ...
... out of line suggesting I am. The amount of support I've provided Gov. Dean is a not trivial portion of my monthly after tax income. I am just going to find ways to continue the financial support without having any of it funneled to unworthy incumbents.

You don't know jack about what I do and I do way more than I write.


Peace.
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:13 PM
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12. You might want to doublecheck how the DNC money is being spent
It's my understanding it's going primarily to PARTY-BUILDING, not to individual campaigns. There's a Congressional Committee that raises money for Congressional campaigns and a Senatorial Committee that raises money for Senatorial campaigns, and I really don't think the DNC's funds go to any campaigns.

IOW: if you want true change, from the grassroots up, contributing TO the DNC is probably one of the best ways to ensure that. But don't take my word for it, call and find out where the DNC's money goes.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 07:17 PM
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7. Cumulative letter index:
# 1 -- Dear Gov. Dean --- America, Or Not?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5531641

# 2 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Bush knows he's lying ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5541924

# 3 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Talk about extreme hiking …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5551415

# 4 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- About those “Niger forgeries” ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5560254

# 5 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- On Passing the "Nuremberg chalice" …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5568226

# 6 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Beyond a wall for “The Fallen Legion” …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5574037&mesg_id=5574037

# 7 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Let’s take Wally O’Dell at his word …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x404707

# 8 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- “Making it up” … Must Be Stopped
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5593443&mesg_id=5593443

# 9 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- "Accumulated evil of the whole"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5601256&mesg_id=5601256

# 10 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Just dial 1-800-CALL-SPY ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5608382&mesg_id=5608382

# 11 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- "Same Intel as Congress," NOT ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5611041&mesg_id=5611041

# 12 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- On Concealing Crimes …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5608382&mesg_id=5615989

# 13 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- No One Is Above The Law In America
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5630443&mesg_id=5630443

# 14 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Why did Bush violate FISA and the 4th Amendment?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5638345&mesg_id=5638345

# 15 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- "From Conservative Scholars to Sigint specialists …"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5647673&mesg_id=5649953

# 16 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- The BIG New York Times story yet to be told …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5660702&mesg_id=5660702

# 17 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- The rabid dogs are cornered …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5666006&mesg_id=5666006

# 18 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Bush's Treasonous Christmas Gift to Iran ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5675687

# 19 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Make Room at the Inn for the Two Ethnic Uighurs ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5679357&mesg_id=5679357

# 20 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- The Destruction of Meaning ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5684701&mesg_id=5684701

# 21 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- It's No Longer Baseball ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5687852&mesg_id=5687852

# 22 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- It's the Oppression of Females ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=29232

# 23 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- “GOP wins Senate, holds House, CNN projects"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5703874&mesg_id=5703874

# 24 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- GOPers either Impeach Bush or Lose in 2006
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=19413

# 25 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Coleen Rowley speaks truth to Bush's liars-for-hire …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=8294

# 26 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- The Bush, Blair Confess-or-Boil Policy ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2667

# 27 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- "Total Information Awareness" -- For ALL Americans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=31336&mesg_id=31336

# 28 -- Dear Gov. Dean - Even Ashcroft said “No”; So, why did the NYTimes hide it?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=37023&mesg_id=37023

# 29 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Congratulations, and …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=43982&mesg_id=43982

# 30 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- NSA, Telco illegal spying pre-dates 9/11 ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=52300&mesg_id=52300

# 31 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- “Solving” the Iraqi WMD problem …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=52300&mesg_id=59094

# 32 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- So, they attack Rep. Murtha instead of the criminals …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=70009&mesg_id=70009

# 33 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Bush’s lethal, impenetrable narcissism …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=75571&mesg_id=75571

# 34 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- The Dearlove-Tenet Summit and Bush's Crimes ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=84233&mesg_id=84233

# 35 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- “I would not have gone to war on such flimsy grounds”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=84233&mesg_id=89044

# 36 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- “I know the capacity … to make tyranny total in America”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=92335&mesg_id=94250

# 37 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Alito is a liar; time to filibuster …http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x100900

# 38 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- “Finally, it has started.”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x113728

# 39 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- “I learned from my mistake …”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=124921&mesg_id=124921

# 40 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Of all of Bush’s lies …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=133942&mesg_id=133942

# 41 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- They just start educating and they don’t stop …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=141686&mesg_id=141949

# 42 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Amplifying awareness of the Bush regime’s mendacity …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=149007&mesg_id=149007

# 43 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- "We the People ... Have No Clothes"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=149007&mesg_id=153653

# 44 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Bush is not, Constitutionally, Commander-In-Chief …http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=149007&mesg_id=167458

# 45 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Urge support for Murtha to deliver SOTU rebuttal
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=149007&mesg_id=180960

# 46 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- OBL; are you sure? (No ‘tin foil hat’ required) …http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=187606&mesg_id=195020

# 47 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Urge a Boycott of SOTU
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=204315&mesg_id=205035

# 48 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Bush's Illegitimate Presidency
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=212768&mesg_id=212768

# 49 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Proprietary e-Voting Kills Democracy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=212768&mesg_id=217280

# 50 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- "That's why Wilson had to be shut down."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=222519&mesg_id=222519

# 51 – Dear Gov. Dean – “Take It To The People”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2388627&mesg_id=2389035

# 52 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Hayden mimics Helms: How quaintly Nixonian
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=251090&mesg_id=251090

# 53 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Mobilize the DNC to Support Senator Kerry
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=255804&mesg_id=255804

# 54 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- It’s Not “Obstructionist” to Defend the Constitution
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=263847&mesg_id=263847

# 55 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- “and a couple of big, dangerous lies”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=266396&mesg_id=266396

# 56 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- “a lot of power waiting to be harnassed”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=275256&mesg_id=275256


You are free to distribute these, and make use of the content within each letter , without having to contact me. If anyone would like a .pdf compilation of all the letters, just pm me with an email address and I'll send you a copy.


Peace.

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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 07:23 PM
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8. I hope he listens, and we never stop to speak
so very true

thanks!
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 08:02 PM
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10. .
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 07:28 PM
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9. Fight on!
When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time they may seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it~ always.- M. Gandi

Peace.
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:23 PM
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13. Don't forget the main issue: Voting machine fraud!!
Edited on Mon Jan-30-06 10:24 PM by Stevepol
All these issues that keep coming up are fine and they are slowly galfanizing larger and larger numbers of people. But don't lose sight of the fact that none of this means ANYTHING unless there's a fair vote count and that can't happen as long as people think that our voting machinery is hunkey dorey.

It always comes down to votes. If the Dems had had enough votes none of this would have happened. Why didn't we have Walter Mondale from MN and Strickland from CO and Cleland from GA? They and others were defeated by voting machines, not by people's votes!

Why isn't Kerry president? Voting machines.

Why is Bush able to play his games? The voting machines.

DON'T LOSE SIGHT OF THE ONLY ISSUE THAT REALLY AND FINALLY MATTERS:

There has to be a paper ballot print-out AND REQUIRED AUDITS FOR ALL ELECTIONS.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:31 PM
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14. Something I'm never likely to forget. "Not one line of software between ..
... a voter and a valid election." is how I've been "framing" it for a very long time.

You are correct.


Peace.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 12:55 AM
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15. This was merely the first skirmish.
Gird your loins DUers!
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 02:09 AM
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18. In_deed! Just wait until we go from warm-ups to empyting the dugout!!
Peace.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 01:07 AM
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16. No surrender! Never. And now for some analysis...

Tale a look at this table from DUer T.Roosevelt. It shows a match between the pro-Alito Democrats and their votes on the bankruptcy bill.

Interesting isn't it. Here's what it means. Many of these Senators are from poor states or states with a large number of poor people: NM, ND, SD, CO, AR, NE, LA. Think about it, a few weeks ago, they voted to totally screw over many of their constituents who have the temerity to declare bankruptcy due to the cost of uninsured health care (most common reason). Now, they're voting for a Supreme Court Justice who will, without ANY doubt, help the other right wingers overturn Roe. You go to debtors prison or you have to seek a "back street" abortion.

These people really love their constituents don't they.

This is THE problem, they're not "conservative," or DLC, or anything else other than elected officials who betray the trust of those who elected them. Sorry folks, that's the fact.

"They" the people of those states deserve humane treatment, a respect for their dignity as human beings, a chance at a decent life. THAT'S BASELINE. They also deserve representatives who will fight for not against these principles.

Recommended...this is a great post. You are unstoppable!!!

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 02:08 AM
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17. "This is THE problem, they're not "conservative," or DLC, or anything else
... other than elected officials who betray the trust of those who elected them. Sorry folks, that's the fact."

Exactly.

And, now we are going to ensure that everyone knows exactly what they are and replace them with accountable, true Democratic Party leaders.

Thank you.


Peace.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 02:18 AM
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19. Posted at fdl:
Thank you Jane and ReddHedd.

My comments and intentions are summarized here:

http:// www.democraticunderground...ress=364x275256

We're just warming up. Wait until we clear the dugout in November and purge the Congress of criminal Republicans and lame Democrats.

I salute Senator Kerry for his willingness to, once again, serve the Constitution. And, Senator Kennedy -- now that is exactly what we want every leader to emulate; the passion, the intelligence, the commitment to civil liberties and the rule of law.

Peace and thank you for firedoglake's significant role in the emergence of a new, vibrant, souful Democratic Party.

Peace,
Bob
understandinglife | Homepage | 01.30.06 - 11:21 pm | #
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/firedoglake/113867195405228177/#240788



Peace.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 02:21 AM
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20. I hope that Kerry and Kennedy and Boxer, et al. will
continue to make their ways to the head of the pack. I wrote Kerry and Feinstein thank you e-mails. They deserve a lot of gratitude for what they have done. Kerry because he showed real courage and leadership and Feinstein because she admitted she was wrong -- and that takes so much humility.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 12:07 PM
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22. I agree with you. I've been thanking all of them. They now know ...
.... we are going to fight and we now know they are listening and prepared to take risks. We simply must build on what has been achieved these past few days.


Peace.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 08:01 AM
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21. K&R
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 12:21 PM
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23. Biting the hands that are trying to help you.
Even if you give to Clark, Kerry, and whomever else you want to....the intent is the same. You will be hurting the very purpose we fought for, getting them to pay attention.

You can yell and scream and threaten like folks in this post are doing.

But if you don't put the money behind it, they don't give a damn.

If you are withholding money from Dean and the DNC to be spiteful, then why in hell should they pay attention to you. Money talks.

The OP might not have intended to further anger toward Dean, maybe, but it did . Don't worry, they have hired back one big money guy...more to come.

Bite off your noses to spite your faces...go ahead.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 09:08 PM
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27. I think that you misinterpret the intent and the effect of the OP
I see nothing in the OP that suggests the witholding of money from the DNC or is even critical of Dean or the DNC. Rather, it is suggesting a driection for the Democratic Party.

If some posters on this thread are suggesting the witholding of money from the DNC, I suspect that they didn't need this OP to bring them to that conclusion.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 08:29 PM
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26. Dear Gov. Dean -- 42 No Votes for Alito
31 January 2006 (# 57)

Forty-one of those No Votes were from Democratic Senators. 16 of those No Votes were a day late and way more than a dollar short. The fact that four Democratic Senators actually voted to confirm him is likely pouring salt and vinegar into a wound.

That's the problem "We the People ..." must confront.

I think we all look forward to hearing how you and the DNC are going to help us confront the reality that we have elected representatives that did not stand with Senator Kerry, Kennedy and others and defend our Republic, defend our civil liberties, defend our Constitution from further disintegration by Bush's unrelenting drive toward plutocratic totalitarinism.

Thank you for your continued leadership. As long as you remain the leader of the DNC, I will do all I can to support you,



Peace.
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