XOKCowboy
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Sat Nov-18-06 02:10 PM
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Pat Robertson - Other Religions Worship Demonic Powers |
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Well he finally cam right out and said it. If you don't believe in "OUR GOD", it's burning in Hell folks. Buddha a "demon"???? What an unmitigated, bigoted asshole. From PFAW via CrooksAnd Liars. Yes there's a video if you have the stomach A viewer wrote in to ask Pat Robertson a question "Why evangelical Christians tell non-Christians that Jesus (God) is the only way to Heaven? Those who are Hindu, Buddhist, Islamic, etc. already know and have a relationship with God. Why is this? It seems disrespectful."
Robertson replied that it is not all disrespectful because all other religions really just worship “demonic powers.”
"No. They don’t have a relationship. There is the god of the Bible, who is Jehovah. When you see L-O-R-D in caps, that is the name. It’s not Allah, it’s not Brahma, it’s not Shiva, it’s not Vishnu, it’s not Buddha. It is Jehovah God. They don’t have a relationship with him. He is the God of all Gods. These others are mostly demonic powers. Sure they’re demons. There are many demons in the world."
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http://www.rightwingwatch.org/2006/11/robertson_says.html?tr=y&auid=2164219
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/11/18/pat-robertson-all-others-worship-demonic-powers/
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Sat Nov-18-06 02:12 PM
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1. Of course, no worries about Rev. Pat worshipping the Devil: |
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The Devil worships him...
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Sat Nov-18-06 02:13 PM
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2. "There are many demons in the world" |
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and one of the most evil is called Pat Robertson.
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Sat Nov-18-06 02:28 PM
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6. Many will say to me, "Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name..." |
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On that day (of Judgement) many will say to me, `Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?' And then will I declare to them, `I never knew you; depart from me, you evildoers.' Matthew 7:22-23, Revised Standard Version
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Sat Nov-18-06 02:30 PM
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7. Ya gotta love the Bible. It's got all bases covered. |
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Man if that verse doesn't describe Pat, Falwell and their ilk, I don't know what does.
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Sat Nov-18-06 02:16 PM
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3. Ignore him. It's his cash cow. |
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Sat Nov-18-06 02:22 PM
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4. This is the interesting thing about religion to me |
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So many of them say "If you believe in any god but ours you're not worshipping the one true god and will be damned for all eternity." It even happens between sects of the same religion.
Okay I guess if you want to put the fate of your immortal soul -- if you believe you have one -- on a roulette wheel. I mean, you'd have to be pretty lucky to pick the right religion/sect since so many of them say the same thing.
To me it just points out another common strain among many faiths: the use of fear and intimidation to get people on board.
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Sat Nov-18-06 02:36 PM
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9. Actually, it's only a trait of some sects of Christianity, Islam, and Judaism (n/t) |
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Sat Nov-18-06 02:22 PM
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5. You can't really blame Robetson |
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The idea that all other gods are demons is as ancient as St. Paul. On this particular matter, Robertson is actually teaching Biblical Christianity.
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Sat Nov-18-06 02:40 PM
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Or Moses condemning the Golden Calf worshippers (which made a great movie scene for Cecil B. DeMille)!
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Sat Nov-18-06 04:00 PM
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19. Yeah, and Paul/Saul was as big an asshole as Pat. Big surprise.n/t |
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Sat Nov-18-06 02:33 PM
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8. this is not a new position for him |
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Edited on Sat Nov-18-06 02:34 PM by jollyreaper2112
My parents had one of his books in the early 90's. I read it for kicks and it was pretty whacked. I trust everyone is at least passingly familiar with the Left Behind series and other Christian pop fiction? It's very Hollywood dramatic with active demons doing this and that, angels fighting them, possessions, curses, black magick, lots of supernatural stuff. It's about as far beyond a contemplative examination of your own walk with Christ as you can get, it's anti-christian, a threat from within. And this isn't being presented in a fictional form, the way a scifi fan can watch Star Wars and enjoy it but not take it as more than fun entertainment. This is more like Scientology-level kooky. To them, this is like a documentary. It's the same sort of pseudo-religious crap that brought us Salem.
Now, as to whether he really believes this or is just saying it for the masses, who knows? The important thing is that they believe it and they're the ones who give him his power.
*Note: the book of his I read was NOT put forward as popular fiction, it was put forward as a discussion of current events, like Al Gore's book is portrayed as except with two scoops of crazy.
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Sat Nov-18-06 02:39 PM
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11. Two scoops AND sprinkles |
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Sat Nov-18-06 02:46 PM
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14. I'm familiar with the books |
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I grew up in Oklahoma that kind of stuff was everywhere and yes it was put forth not as fiction but as "faith-based" fact. I used to love "debating" the Oral-bots that were all over Tulsa. It was always so easy to rebut their biblical "facts" with any number of other verses from the Bible. The looks on their faces was precious as you watched their "faith" being rocked by the very book they worshiped. :evilgrin:
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Sat Nov-18-06 02:38 PM
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10. "MOSTLY demonic powers"? |
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"All the other gods exist, but they are -mostly- demons. Except for my mentor, Nur-Ab-Sal, of course. He who crushes the flesh of the oppressed and drinks the blood of Democrats... but you see, all these demons are just tools of a higher power, so it's OK."
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Sat Nov-18-06 02:44 PM
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13. Yeah, one of those "demons" goes by the name of Pat Robertson. |
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Sat Nov-18-06 02:50 PM
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He missed the Spanish Inquisition by a few centuries and he was born on the wrong continent. Given his take on religion, he would have fit right in as one of inquisitors givin' 'em that ole time religion. I can just hear him now. "You MADE us put those red hot coals on your private parts because you REFUSED to get us an acceptable confession."
Ah...THOSE were the days!
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Sat Nov-18-06 02:59 PM
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16. Yeah, they all need to fall in line and worship PAT'S god... |
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Sat Nov-18-06 03:55 PM
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17. he's a buffoon who has nothing to do with God. Don't confuse God |
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with the idiots and jackasses that have found religion a trippy path to power and money. they have nothing to do with god. Curse them.
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Sat Nov-18-06 03:56 PM
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18. A charlatan cannot afford to be as ignorant of Christian scripture, |
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or of the the Holy Spirit which inspired it, as Robertson shows himself to be.
In the passage alluding to the polytheistic Athenian's "belt and braces" statue erected to an unseen God, Acts 17, 19-34, Luke relates that, though many scoffed at his teachings, Paul made some converts (among them, in particular, Dionyseus and Damaris).
In the New International Version of the Bible (Life Application Study Bible), the comment on this passage is as follows:
Paul's address is a good example of how to communicate the gospel. Paul did not begin by reciting Jewish history, as he usually did, for this would have been meaningless to his Greek audience. He began by building a case for the one true God, using examples they understood (17.22.23). Then he established common ground by emphasising what they agreed on about God (17:24-29). Finally, he moved his message to the person of Christ, centering on the resurrection (17:30, 31). When you witness to others, you can use Paul's approach; use examples, establish common ground, and then move people towards a decision about Jesus Christ."
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Sat Nov-18-06 05:08 PM
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20. God arranged for various expressions of faith to him... |
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because of the myriad of different cultures around the world. Different nationalities have a variety of ways to praise the divine through their own religious belief system. As long as the religion advocates loving one another and worshipping the one universal God then they are more than qualifified to enter heaven and be accepted. Jesus cames as God's representation of the word in the flesh. After his death and resurrection he was glorified and made one with the father. They are one and the same in essence. So if a people are living according to the word, which basically consists of living a life which emulates Christ's, then they are as much a part of his whole global church as any Christian.
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Sat Nov-18-06 07:22 PM
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21. Yep, that's the Rev. Dr. Pat Robertson for ya |
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He also said on the 700 club that only born-again Christians should be qualified to hold public office in this country. And said that those who practice any number of other religions and beliefs - including Yoga, Transcendental Medidation, Mormonism, Islam, and Unitarian-Universalism - have given demons the "right to possess" them by practicing that religion since he says they are worshipping "demonic forces". Pat Robertson is one grade-A sicko.
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Sat Nov-18-06 07:31 PM
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22. Why does anybody pay attention, much less money, to this hateful whackjob? |
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I've seen lots of freelance ranters on street corners and Greyhound stations whose brand of crazy is a lot more insightful than this douchebag's.
"Allah" is the Arabic word for "God." He fails Remedial Comparative Religion 001 on that alone.
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