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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 07:02 PM
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GONZALES: Those Who Want To Uphold Constitution Present "Grave Danger" To US
Edited on Sat Nov-18-06 07:09 PM by kpete
Expecting the executive branch to obey the law and respect civil rights is "shortsighted,"

Those Who Want to Uphold the Constitution present a "grave threat" to U.S. security.

Gonzales Blasts Surveillance Critics
Nov 18, 3:47 PM (ET)
By CHASE SQUIRES

AIR FORCE ACADEMY, Colo. (AP) - Attorney General Alberto Gonzales contended Saturday that some critics of the Bush administration's warrantless surveillance program were defining freedom in a way that poses a "grave threat" to U.S. security.

Gonzales was the second administration official in two days to attack a federal judge's ruling last August that the program was unconstitutional. Vice President Dick Cheney on Friday called the ruling "an indefensible act of judicial overreaching."

Gonzales told about 400 cadets from the Air Force Academy's political science and law classes that some see the program as on the verge of stifling freedom rather that protecting the country.

"But this view is shortsighted," he said. "Its definition of freedom - one utterly divorced from civic responsibility - is superficial and is itself a grave threat to the liberty and security of the American people."

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061118/D8LFN2O00.html
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 07:09 PM
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1. Actually farsighted.
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 07:10 PM
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2. Honi soit qui mal y pense.
Shame to those who think this is shameful. One day, I hope, it will be against the law to spew tyranny like this.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 07:11 PM
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3. Can we get this AH disbarred?
I know there are all kinds of attorneys who either support or object to any subject you can think of, but when they deliberately tell someone to bread existing laws, they USUALLY conceal it inside of some hidden words or noncommital statements. They do that BECAUSE they are officers of the court and can be DISBARRED for advising or telling a client it's OK to break existing laws!

Gonzo doesn't even TRY to hide his advice!
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 07:12 PM
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4. "Dammit, people! How can we become like the Nazis if you don't LET us!" eom
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 07:13 PM
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5. What a crock
The presidential oath of office is "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." Spying without a warrant is unconstitutional. The president swore to uphold and protect the Constitution. These people are drifting further and further into la-la land.

The Constitution does not say that a president may interpret, or change, the Constitution. That's the reason we have a judicial system, and a Congress. As much as Bush would love to see himself crowned world dictator, his administration is twisting logic and reason into many convoluted shapes in order to give him a fig-leaf of protection. He is violating the Constitution he swore to preserve, protect, and defend.
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thingfisher Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 07:15 PM
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6. One man's "indefensible act of judicial overreaching"
is another man's idea of checks and balances at work!

We can only hope that Cheney and his ilke will be foaming at the mouth as the draconian anti-freedom laws enacted by them are repealed in the interest of maintaining a free society (or as free as it CAN be under the circumstances).
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 07:16 PM
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7. This fugger should be tried for treason
Start the investigations please Dems.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 07:17 PM
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8. He Speaks Treason! This Man Dserves to Be Placed Behind Bars
for his actions and intent to undermine the Constitution itself.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 07:18 PM
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9. Gonzales is a "grave threat" to basic human liberties
the whole warrantless surveillance program is "an indefensible act" of executive "overreaching"

He belongs in a prison with his ideological bedfellow Pinochet
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 07:22 PM
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10. he means what he said. ' a grave danger to US' as in bush and himself
who have committed heinous crimes against humanity.
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Hubert H. Hubert Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 07:28 PM
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11. Jeez, could this be any more blatant?
Why don't you just declare martial law and be done with it? After all, it's just a goddamned piece of paper...
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watrwefitinfor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 07:37 PM
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12. There is a reason they are doing this.
They don't spew this crap just to convince us they are fascistic. They know we know that. They are trying to prepare the path to something. Do they plan to keep the new Congress from being sworn in? Are they going to find an excuse to institute martial law to keep it from happening? Is something going to happen to Bush? What the hell happens if Cheney becomes president? Am I being paranoid?

Wat
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Hubert H. Hubert Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 07:52 PM
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13. Paranoia is almost the norm these days
It could be that they're just blowing a lot of hot air. Maybe they think they can keep the fear alive long enough to sway the vote in '08.

But these guys just lost a lot of power. We all know what happens when you corner a wild animal...

Now I feel like *I'm* being paranoid.
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watrwefitinfor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 08:01 PM
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14. Well, I feel a little consoled now, anyway.
If I'm paranoid, I'm not alone. Which is one of the best things about this place.

Welcome to DU! Boy, are you ever going to fit right in! :hi:

Wat
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 03:42 PM
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15. This is the BFEE-they've got to go.
Come what may, they've got to go.

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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 03:47 PM
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16. This guys head is so far up
*'s ass that he requires Chimpy to have a Plexiglas navel in order to see where he is going.
He is not a good example of what any true American would call an Attorney General, although he is Definitely the Enabler General of the United States.

Just one of many we need to impeach.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:55 PM
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17. Gonzales has torturers waiting too-"CACI:Torture in Iraq, Intimidation at Home"
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:14 PM
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18. Torquemada
you're going down, you worthless shit.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 10:11 PM
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19. Gonzalez talking to the Military about how Federal Judges
are disagreeing with his Almighty Gonzales interpretation of the Constitution

Gonzalez is mimiking Himmler

Unfreakingbelievable

He didn't talk at Annapolis and West Point

they must have been thanking their stars he didn't show up there...
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 10:11 PM
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20. Hmmm, Why didn't he speak at West Point or Annapolis Naval Academy?
Would they disagree highly with him?
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 09:24 PM
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21. kick
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 08:14 AM
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