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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 11:25 PM
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Anybody Here Digested THIS Yet ??? - FBI\Fitzgerald\Mob\9-11\& More !!!
Al Qaeda and The Mob: How the FBI Blew It on 9/11

by Peter Lance (thru HuffPo), Bio here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/contributors/bio.php?nick=peter-lance&name=Peter%20Lance

<snip>

This story is very well known. What's not known -- and will be revealed in detail with the publication next week of my new book Triple Cross -- is that the same New York Office of the FBI - also known as the bin Laden "office of origin," blew an opportunity in the summer of 2001 - to stop the 9/11 "planes as missiles" plot dead in its tracks. How? by merely applying the same dogged surveillance techniques across the Hudson in Jersey City to an al Qaeda hot spot that one former FBI informant had called "a nest of vipers."

The address was 2828 Kennedy Boulevard in Jersey City; the location of Sphinx Trading, a check cashing and mailbox store that does millions of dollars in wire transfers each year between New Jersey and the Middle East. Sphinx was incorporated on December 15th, 1987 by Waleed al Noor and Mohammed El-Attris, an Egyptian. The store was located only four doors down from the al-Salam mosque, presided over by blind Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman (OAR). Rahman runs like a hot circuit cable through the epic story of FBI failures on the road to 9/11.

Convicted by former Assistant U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald in 1995 along with 9 other members of a "jihad army" for seditious conspiracy, OAR was the leader of the hyper-violent al Gamma'a Islamyah (Islamic Group) responsible for the Luxor Massacre in 1997. He was also spiritual head of the Egyptian Islamic Jihad (EIJ) the terror group headed by Osama bin Laden's number two: Dr. Ayman al Zawahiri. Not only was the Sheikh's cell responsible for the first attack on the WTC in 1993, but the 1998 African Embassy bombings and the October, 2000 attack on the U.S.S. Cole were committed in his name. OAR was so important to the al Qaeda leadership that the infamous Crawford Texas, Presidential Daily Briefing of August 6th, 2001 referenced a 1998 intelligence report of a plot by bin Laden to hijack planes to free him. A similar report was contained in a PDB to Bill Clinton in 1998. So the NYO "office of origin" had good reason to focus on the dingy gray three-story building at 2824 Kennedy Boulevard that also housed what the Feds called "The Jersey Jihad Office."

One of the most astonishing revelations in my five year investigation into the FBI's handling of the war on terror was that Bureau agents knew as early as 1991 that Sphinx Trading was the location of a mailbox used by El Sayyid Nosair. A Prozac popping Egyptian-born janitor, it was Nosair who spilled the first al Qaeda blood on U.S. soil on the night of November 5th, 1990 when he gunned down Rabbi Meier Kahane, founder of The Jewish Defense League. Nosair had been trained by the principal subject of Triple Cross: Ali A. Mohamed, an ex Egyptian Army Major who had by then succeeded in penetrating the CIA in Hamburg Germany in 1984. Then after slipping past a Watch List and entering the U.S. a year later, Mohamed enlisted in the U.S. Army where he reached the rank of E-5 and got himself assigned to the highly secure JFK Special Warfare Center (SWC) at Fort Bragg, N.C. -- the advanced training school for officers of The Green Berets and Delta Force. It was members of Mohamed's radical Egyptian Army unit who had gunned down Anwar Sadat in 1981 and his C.O. at Bragg likened the chances of an ex-Egyptian Army officer with that kind of pedigree ending up at the JFK SWC with winning the Powerball Lottery.

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Much more at Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-lance/al-qaeda-and-the-mob-how_b_34336.html

I'm still reading this thing, but holy crap!!! Anybody here know of this story???

:shrug:


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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 11:38 PM
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1. Allright, I'll let this writer have his fun...
He's still not close to what really happened on 9/11 or why, but at least he raises some issus that get us a little closer than the official corporate "news" media lies. How bloody pathetic, that so half-hearted and half-assed a 9/22 truth effort as this might need some praise, compared to official lies that no one in their right mind could ever believe to begin with.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 11:46 PM
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2. my eyes cross...
when I start reading that stuff. There's too many players, with too many similar names, from too many countries, doing too many things, and my eyes glaze over before I get a clue. Going back and re-reading is almost painful. I need picture books.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 11:56 PM
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3. Wasn't there a story about a group of men
Edited on Sat Nov-18-06 11:58 PM by malaise
who upped and left after they were seen cheering over in Jersey.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 05:04 PM
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9. Sounds like you're referring to the 5 "dancing Israelis"

They only left after they were arrested by the FBI and then quietly booted out of the country after an investigation. Even the US Jewish magazine The Forward reported that their sources indicated the men were likely Mossad agents.


Five Israelis were seen filming as jet liners ploughed into the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001 ...

THERE was ruin and terror in Manhattan, but, over the Hudson River in New Jersey, a handful of men were dancing. As the World Trade Centre burned and crumpled, the five men celebrated and filmed the worst atrocity ever committed on American soil as it played out before their eyes.

Who do you think they were? Palestinians? Saudis? Iraqis, even? Al-Qaeda, surely? Wrong on all counts. They were Israelis – and at least two of them were Israeli intelligence agents, working for Mossad, the equivalent of MI6 or the CIA.

Their discovery and arrest that morning is a matter of indisputable fact. To those who have investigated just what the Israelis were up to that day, the case raises one dreadful possibility: that Israeli intelligence had been shadowing the al-Qaeda hijackers as they moved from the Middle East through Europe and into America where they trained as pilots and prepared to suicide-bomb the symbolic heart of the United States. And the motive? To bind America in blood and mutual suffering to the Israeli cause.

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Vince Cannistraro, former chief of operations for counter-terrorism with the CIA, says the red flag went up among investigators when it was discovered that some of the Israelis’ names were found in a search of the national intelligence database. Cannistraro says many in the US intelligence community believed that some of the Israelis were working for Mossad and there was speculation over whether Urban Moving had been “set up or exploited for the purpose of launching an intelligence operation against radical Islamists”.

http://www.sundayherald.com/37707


You can also google "dancing israelis 911"
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 12:04 AM
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4. This looks like a hit job on Fitzgerald
Is anyone else interpreting it that way?
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 12:14 AM
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5. Hey... I'm A Big Fan Of Fitzgerald, But...
this ain't no hit job if it's true.

Would definitely like to know more, especially from Fitzgerald.

:shrug:
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 01:03 AM
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6. It's not a hit job?
Patrick Fitzgerald made his bones as a terror fighter by prosecuting U.S. vs. bin Laden, the trial of the African Embassy bombers that he and squad I-49 failed to stop. As a reward he was appointed U.S. Attorney in Chicago and got tapped as Special Prosecutor in the Valerie Plame CIA leak investigation. We now know that even after learning the identify of the Plame leak source -- Bush retainer Richard Armitage - in the early weeks of the investigation, Fitzgerald still subjected the New York Times and Time magazine to a barrage of subpoenas unseen since the McCarthy era - going so far as to force the jailing of ex-Times reporter Judith Miller for 85 days. Until now, Patrick Fitzgerald has been famous for two things: prosecuting al Qaeda members and chilling the press.

With the publication of Triple Cross his failure to contain bin Laden's master spy will now be on the record. The book hits the stores on Tuesday, November 21st. Inside there's a 32 page illustrated timeline documenting Fitzgerald's negligence. Part One and a selection of documentary appendices can be accessed now by linking to www.peterlance.com.


That's not a hit?
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 01:13 AM
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7. Well... I've Always Taken The Phrase 'Hit Piece' To Mean...
an unbalanced and/or untrue article designed to screw someone's image over to advance some other purpose.

Now you did say 'hit job', so maybe I'm off on a different definition. But if you mean 'hard hitting', well... it certainly was.

And like I said, i'd like to know more before I pass any final judgments here.

:shrug:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 04:26 PM
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8. how'd I miss this?
thanks
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 05:38 PM
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10. concerning 9-11, who the hell knows WHAT to believe anymore . . .
all I know for sure is that there's a whole lot that we don't know . . . and that the "official" story has more holes than all the cheese in Switzerland . . .
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 06:50 PM
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11. Is the address 2828 Kennedy Boulevard or 2824 Kennedy Boulevard?
I'm skeptical if Lance can't even keep a consistent address, a very critical address, in his recitation of events.

If you throw enough letters into the soup, eventually you'll be able to read something. Seems to me that's what is going on here with Peter Lance's version. Maybe someone else can shed some light on his history and whether he's uncovered anything else of significance before.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 01:23 AM
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13. 2824 is the al Salaam Mosque; 2828 was Sphinx Trading nt
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 01:05 PM
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15. I guess reading all this intrigue clouded my mind. Thanks for the correction.
:thumbsup:
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 01:18 AM
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12. I've read about half of Lance's book "1000 Years for Revenge"
Here's what I remember:

Before the 93 WTC bombings an accountant in the FDNY of
Egyptian background dug WTC blueprints out of the trash.
After the bombings, video was discovered showing this
guy walking arm in arm with the Blind Sheikh.

An FBI informant named Emad Salem was so close to the 93
bomb plot that he proposed to substitute harmless powder
for the explosives. His FBI handlers overruled him and
the bombing went forward. Six people died.

Ali Mohammed had trained the members of the Blind Sheikh's
al Qaeda cell in the use of weapons while Ali Mohammed was
a Sergeant in the US Army. He was not prosecuted. Patrick
Fitzgerald was on the prosecutor team.

Ramzi Yusef set off a liquid nitroglycerine bomb in 1994
in a Philippine Airlines jet. The over-reaction of
banning liquids from plane travelers recently was entirely
theatrical since the threat has been known for 12 years.

An al Qaeda guy arrested in 1995 named Murad told Philippine
intelligence that al Qaeda was planning to fly hijacked planes
into the WTC, the Pentagon, CIA HQ, Sears Tower, and the
TransAmerica Pyramid. Murad was turned over to the FBI and
jailed in the USA, and the FBI was told about this testimony
with respect to the "Project Bojinka" plot.

This was not part of what I read in Lance, but I understand
that Patrick Fitzgerald handled complex plea bargain negotiations
with Ali Mohammed with respect to Ali's participation in the
African Embassy bombings. Ali pled guilty, but he was never
sentenced, and nobody knows where he is today. Some believe
he was set free.




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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 01:31 AM
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14. How do you know its the FBI that didn't do its job?
For all you know, they did go through these measures.

We have a White House that wilfully ignored warnings and intel, you know...

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