Supporters of the war in Iraq should accept responsibility for their mistake...

[kentuck]

This goes for Republicans and Democrats. They were lied to but they supported a disastrous decision by an arrogant and power-hungry Executive. They have no excuses. They should apologize to the American people for one of the greatest blunders in history. By now, all of the supporters of this fiasco should see the error of their way and the price that must be paid for this blunder. Once they face reality, perhaps we will be able to move on and try to repair the damage done to our country and our Constitution.

[nini]

1. "they were lied to but..."

if their decision was based on lies - can you blame them to the point you are?

Now, if they continued to support it after the truth came out, then I would say you are right, but that first decision isn't quite so black and white.

[kentuck]

2. But many knew they were being "lied to"...

or they should have known... Did they really expect these snakes to tell the truth?

[nini]

6. If they 'knew' they were being lied to - then there's an issue

If they took the intelligence at its word (remember we have the luxury of looking back on all this now) - then no. However, they should come out and make it clear what happened.


If they knew what they were being told was bullshit and voted to authorize * to do what he wanted - then they owe not only us an apology, they owe the whole world an apology.

[tuvor]

10. If they took intelligence at its word, there'd have been no invasion.

Someone's doing a great job at historical revision. These two links are great references to what we knew before bush chose to invade.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3394174

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=36998

[nini]

13. thanks for those links..

I'll refresh my memory.

I know I sound like I'm defending some of those votes because I'm not. I'm trying to remember how stuff what down and the stories I remember about how that first vote for authority was based on the reports they were given - which we all know now was based on lies. Those are the votes I question - not the idiots who were going to side with * no matter what.

[wuushew]

7. Was it not still an endorsement of pre-emption?

Apparently if Saddam did have WMDs we would have reason to attack his country and kill Iraqis?

Iraq was kicked out of Kuwait in 1991 and to my knowledge had no obvious reasons to be engaged in declared warfare with the United States in 2003.

[nini]

11. based on whatever all was in that intelligence - yes

It's what they saw in those reports and what we still don't know exactly - that is why they voted to give the idiot authority.


I in no way like what happened, but if they saw something in those reports we didn't know about (even if it was lies as we now know) I will give the honest ones the benefit of the doubt. Sadly, it is the biggest govt. mistake in my lifetime.

[tuvor]

3. We were all lied to, but the evidence was there if we cared enough to see it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=36998

[The Magistrate]

4. Quite True, My Bluegrass Friend

The proper line should be "My mistake was to believe the lies they told us." This keeps the focus where it ought to be, making the mea culpa into an attack on the real target....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[951-Riverside]

5. ...What mistake?

Hmmm?

Remember these dopes have a very short term memory so they have completely forgotten 2 key things 1. That they went into this war to disarm Saddam of WMD's 2. That they have already "won" because they removed the existing government, replaced it with a *snickers* new one and still occupy the country.

[spanone]

8. Unfortunately, no one accepts responsibility for anything these days or so it seems.

I'd say the recent voting proves that America wants that to change.

[kentuck]

9. I think this may have been just the first round in America's revenge...

upon the politicians, especially Republicans.. At least, I hope so... :)

[izzie]

12. Give me a brake. They are still trying to get the blame for this

war right, WW1.

[LittleClarkie]

14. Some of them already have

Do you want one big apology, or a bunch of smaller ones. Some of that has already happened with the individuals, like Kerry and Edwards and others. Your assertion just seems a bit vague to me. "They"?

[nini]

15. ok.. I re-read your post, so let me correct myself

I re-read your OP and think I misunderstood part of it. I agree that anyone that had part in giving * authority needs to recognize and admit the mistake to help avoid it ever happening again. Even if their vote was because of misplaced trust in the Admin - or just plain naivety - it was a mistake. I agree with you.


The question I had is the wide range of motives behind those votes. Some would have blindly voted for the power, while others may have actually believed the intelligence they saw. If someone had honestly believed the intelligence I can't fault them as much as someone who would have given * the power even knowing the intelligence was based on lies - that was my point.