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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 04:08 PM
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RE TASER INCIDENT: CITIZEN VIDEOGRAPHERS!
I want to focus this taser incident on one particular WHAT IF question, if I may:

What if, in a loud voice and legally impressive way, the person recording this had been able to shout out:

"I am recording this, officers, and your careers may be on the line unless you immediately desist your brutality!"

My question is: What would/could/should/might have happened? Would they have de-escalated? Would they have confiscated the camera phone?

Since fighting police officers is not really a reasonable or practical response, is THIS the way we should fight back?
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Hav Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 04:14 PM
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1. .
Edited on Sun Nov-19-06 04:15 PM by Hav
Interesting point. I'm sure it would have gotten the attention of the officer. At least, I'm pretty persuaded that the victim wouldn't have been tasered 5 times.
On the other side, the officer did it despite all these witnesses anyways..
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 04:17 PM
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2. The cops would just arrest the videographer...
Edited on Sun Nov-19-06 04:17 PM by Kutjara
...for "disturbing the peace" or some similar charge, and then 'disappear' the footage on the cameraphone or videocam once they got it in their possession.

Remember the Brazilian man (Juan Charles de Menezes) shot dead in London last year by the cops who suspected he might once have said the word 'terrorist'? He walked past no fewer than six security cameras on the London Underground on his way to the train. Amazingly, each one of the cameras was later found to be either broken or out of film. Of course, it was the police who discovered this amazing fact. Convenient, eh?

This is largely why the police responsible got away with murder.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 07:54 PM
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3. I've been meaning to kick this for a meaningful discussion
:kick:

Whew! That's done.

:)
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:08 PM
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4. Thanks Nikki Stone
This thread continues to sink like your namesake.

Thanks for your reasoned thoughts on your other thread. Much appreciated.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:14 PM
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5. LOL! Sounds like a challenge to keep the discussion going.
So, without giving any specific details, what might a hypothetical cop do in a hypothetical situation in which he is, hypothetically, being abusive with a hypothetical taser or other hypothetical weapon when a hypothetical citizen with a hypothetical camera phone hypothetically tapes the hypothetical abuse in progress and, hypothetically, informs the cop that he is doing the hypothetical taping?
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 12:43 PM
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6. The cops would have tasered the videographer and destroyed the recording. nt
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WHAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 12:58 PM
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7. I'm not very tech savy...
but, would or could wireless transmission allow almost instantaneous data transfer (video, audio) into a hard drive somewhere so that footage could not be easily erased even if it was confiscated. It seems like there must be some way to do this along the same principle of answering machines. I think it would entail widespread public access to such services...wireless capability in public commons.

just wondering...

I read the other thread and just thought about this problem of confiscation by police...

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