Science v Faith--- Returning our schools to Science based education

[nolies32fouettes]

http://www.progressiveu.org/165831-dinosaurs-the-bible-big-bang-theories-and-parasitic-worms

Ok...first off, this is an original article, but the windows explorer doesn't let me copy it. So if someone can grab 4 paragraphs for me that would help.


Scientific research goes on despite the Bush administrations faith based programs. Now, the latest controversy is brings back the old controversy about dinosaurs in the bible or dead before then.

[teach1st]

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What kid hasn't done a report on dinosaurs and hasn't been fascinated by them? Seemed there was a dinosaur for all of us....carnivores, vegetarian's (my favorite), big ones, little ones, and so on. Something about them seems to represent a hidden key to the world of the past and the world of today.

It's just a fascinating subject. (image courtesy answersingenesis.com) Science and faith clash as Biblical scholars site passages that dinosaurs lived with humans and scientists site fossils and soil studies to show they could not have existed together.

But it's curious that all of a sudden scientists' views are diverging on what exactly happened to the dinosaurs and as a result, the debate between faith and science rage on.

Did the big bang kill the dinosaurs as traditionally thought? Or did multiple meteors kill the dinosaurs.

[nolies32fouettes]

4. Thank you so much!

I hate whatever coding they put on that site that prevents me from lifting the words.

[Xipe Totec]

2. As I like to tell my freeper 'friends':

Evolution is a fucking miracle.

[nolies32fouettes]

3. exactly!!! as a former homeschooler, we often tried to speak in

that way. So that even if there was evolution, couldn't it have been that GOD WANTED EVOLUTION?

Sometimes you have to make them accept that premise to move forward to the real facts.

[Xipe Totec]

5. I agree with you

I just hope the pun wasn't too subtle.

:hide:

[nolies32fouettes]

9. nawww....

very nice pun!

[mzteris]

17. hey!

welcome to DU!!

Why are you a "former homeschooler"?

from a "current homeschooler". . .

[patrice]

15. Right on!

[electron_blue]

6. Huh? What scientists EVER said the Big Bang killed off the dinos?

duh Nolie needs to get her facts/theories straight.

[NEDem]

7. I'm wondering the same thing.

Never heard that theory.

[nolies32fouettes]

11. Just about every science book, science museum, etc...has that

listed as a scientific theory. They look at fossils, soil samples, etc...carbon date them, etc...

Did you read the links within the article to locate the credentials of the people listed?

[countingbluecars]

12. Perhaps just some confusion here.

I think the Big Bang Theory is about the creation of the universe-not the end of the dinosaurs.

[nolies32fouettes]

13. Oh yes. I also have heard the meteor sort of referred to as a big explosion

hense the confusion in the phrase.

[patrice]

18. Yep.

[Warren DeMontague]

27. Yeah. "The Big Bang" is something entirely different.

Than the meteor impact that we're pretty sure killed the Dinosaurs 65 million years ago.

http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/SIC/impact_cratering/Chicxulub/Chicx_title.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicxulub_Crater

http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/academy/universe/b_bang.html

[electron_blue]

28. which is why I say Nolie should get her terms straight. It only weakens her (?)

arguments. Big Bang = origin of universe theory, and has nothing at all to do with extinction of dinosaurs.

[electron_blue]

29. and, yes, I did read your article.

I'm an astronomer, I know the difference between Big Bang Theory and massive impacts in the Earth's past. Probably you do, too, but having big bloopers like this hurts your credibility. I'm just sayin'....

[Celica Toyota]

8. Evolution is not science based. It's a form of religion.

Darwin was an evangelist who used his unproven and ridiculous theory to preach the religion of evolution. It has been disproven time and time again. I suppose anyone who believe that nonsense could have been fathered by an ape. I like Douglas's Adams theory of where we came from far better.

[we can do it]

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[mzteris]

16. I think you forgot something. . .

:sarcasm:

[Xipe Totec]

19. Linkie please?

where are your facts?

[crim son]

20. Could you explain what you mean by that?

I haven't seen proof that evolution is false - certainly not "time and time again." Maybe I'm just reading the wrong books. :shrug:

[patrice]

21. Refresh our memories on what Douglas A's theory was.

I never actually finished reading Hitchhiker's Guide.

We came from trash thrown out of some inter-galactic space-ship or something like that?

[Crunchy Frog]

30. The entire universe was sneezed out

by the Great Green Arkleseizure. Those who believe live in terror of the Coming of the Great Hankie. It's certainly more plausible than creation "theory".

Edit: found the relevant quote.

The story so far: In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

Many races believe that it was created by some sort of God, though the Jatravartid people of Viltvodle VI believe that the entire Universe was in fact sneezed out of the nose of a being called the Great Green Arkleseizure.

The Jatravartids, who live in perpetual fear of the time they call The Coming of The Great White Handkerchief, are small blue creatures with more than fifty arms each, who are therefore unique in being the only race in history to have invented the aerosol deodorant before the wheel.

However, the Great Green Arkleseizure Theory is not widely accepted outside Viltvodle VI and so, the Universe being the puzzling place it is, other explanations are constantly being sought.

[patrice]

22. Pretty much Everything's "a form of religion".

[theoldman]

23. Darwin was a Christian but he was not an Evangelist.

His theory has been proved thousands of times. Darwin never said that we were fathered by an ape. Are you on some type of medication?

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[MaineYooper]

25. that will come as a surprise to thousands of working biologists.

If you're joking, please mark it with sarcasm.

If you're not, please go get an education.

[Warren DeMontague]

26. What the sam hell flying philadelphia fuck are you talking about?

Evolution "has been disproven time and time again"

Um, Bullshit. Back it up, Jack. Lets see some links. Lets see some references. Lets see some FUCKING EVIDENCE. Where, precisely, are you getting this steaming pantload?

Oh, and welcome to DU. Enjoy your stay.

[Crunchy Frog]

31. Great sense of humor. Welcome to DU.

You'll find that some people on here don't get irony unless it's accompanies by a :sarcasm:. Indeed, there are so many nuts out there these days that it can be virtually impossible to tell satire from something intended to be taken seriously.

I certainly would prefer to think of being related to an ape, than some of those nuts spouting that "creation" nonsense.

[Zhade]

32. Wow. Where to start? Can you even comprehend how wrong I'll show you to be?

1) Evolution doesn't postulate that we came from apes, but that we and the great apes share a common distant ancestor.

2) Evolutionary science isn't religion, because it deals with verifiable facts. It's been observed in the lab. It exists. Only the very, very ignorant can possibly argue otherwise.

3) Darwin doubted the existence of any gods near the end of his life.

4) Evolution has never been proven wrong. If you disagree (even though you're wrong), produce the evidence. (I won't wait, because you can't, because it's as nonexistent as your sense of logic.)

5) Adam's 'theory' was a joke. Are you aware of the documented fact that Adams was an atheist who lacked belief in any gods?

You are so far off from reality it's hysterical.