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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:30 PM
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Now I understand McCain's cowardly and new stance on abortion

McCain Hires Key Falwell Staffer For Presidential Campaign

McCain and FalwellIn 2000, John McCain called Jerry Falwell an “agent of intolerance.” Now, he has hired the debate coach from Falwell’s Liberty University, Brett O’Donnell, to advise him on his communications strategy. O’Donnell has been executing Falwell’s strategy to train scores of debaters to confront “the culture on moral default.”

Falwell said the hiring should not be considered an endorsement:

The Rev. Jerry Falwell, chancellor of the Lynchburg university, said he has not endorsed a candidate, and O’Donnell’s appointment should not be interpreted as a signal that he is backing McCain…”Senator McCain is getting a real winner, and I’m sure Brett will be a great help to him,” Falwell said. “He’s getting Brett at the peak of his production.”

McCain also delivered the commencement address at Liberty University this summer.


http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/18/mccain-falwell-2/
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:33 PM
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1. As much as I dislike McCain
and he was SUCH a disapoitnment to me,

cowardly is not a word I would ever use when referring to this man.

Setting that aside, I would never vote for him.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:34 PM
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2. to each his own
but he is a fucking coward.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:56 PM
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15. McCain.
He was brave in Vietnam. And we might be tempted to give him breaks as an individual for what he endured. But we should never consider ourselves obligated to remain silent when he, in his position as a public figure and political leader, is willing to humiliate himself .... especially when he seeks to do it at our expense.

Perhaps some are uncomfortable with the word "coward." Yet his recent actions appear to be those of a spineless opportunist.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 09:16 PM
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20. point well taken, thank you for that
Perhaps some are uncomfortable with the word "coward." Yet his recent actions appear to be those of a spineless opportunist.

however, it's too late for me to edit my OP.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 09:31 PM
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24. It's ok, I know what you meant
and I agree with you in principle. I do think he is a spineless opportunist.

My only concern was with the word "coward", which immediately reminded me of what the 'pugs did to John Kerry.

FWIW, :loveya:
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 09:27 PM
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23. I for one have been.
However you speak the truth, forty years would seem to be a long enough pass, especially considering that he didn't feel obligated to speak up very loudly for fellow veterans Kerry or Cleland. I think his pass has just expired.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:35 PM
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3. I would. When he can sentence soldiers to endure torture
when he himself knows exactly what it is and what it does, that's cowardice.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:42 PM
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8. Yep, a cowardly political whore about covers it. nt
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:36 PM
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4. Whorely, Whore-ish, Prone To Political Whoring ???
Except, even that is unfair to actual... professional sex-workers.

:shrug:
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:39 PM
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5. That I agree
political whore is a more appropriate description of McCain's behavior.

We should be careful to say what we mean, and mean what we say.

Cowardice is not the right term.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:41 PM
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6. you have GOT to be kidding
that man HUGGED bush after bush TRASHED MCCAIN'S FAMILY - McCain is a COWARD *AND* a BUSH WHORE
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:52 PM
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12. Bush Whore, yes. Coward, no.
Let us keep our evaluation of the man in the political arena separate and apart from our evaluation of him in the field of battle.

No person who has served his country and worn the uniform of the United States, should ever be disparaged in this manner.

We do not want to stoop to the level of the Swift Boat Veterans.

We are Democrats; we should know better.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 09:53 PM
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26. NOPE
courage is not defined strictly by what one does on the BATTLEFIELD - McCAIN IS A F***ING COWARD
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:07 PM
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28. Understood
Edited on Sun Nov-19-06 10:36 PM by Xipe Totec
We'll just have to disagree.

Yes, there are many ways to display courage, and the battle field is not the only one.

But it IS one way to display courage.

Nobody who has displayed courage, either in the battlefield, police action, firefighting, or any situation where one's life is put in harm's way to protect the lives of others, should ever be dismissed as a coward.

PS: How do you feel about the way John Kerry's military record was disparaged by the 'pugs?

Do you think it was fair to ridicule his three Purple Hearts?

I don't.





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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:38 PM
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32. I'm not ridiculing his purple hearts
I'm ridiculing him because he is a coward who puts the interests of the GOP over the interests of America. HE IS A F***ING TRAITOR.
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u2spirit Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:22 PM
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29. Ok let's split the difference
He displays high amounts of political cowardice. Does that make it more pallatable?
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:24 PM
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30. Actually, yes.
Let's be clear; I hate the guy.

I just don't want him ridiculed as a coward.

For Kerry's sake, and for Murtha's.

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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:41 PM
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7. People can change....... just because he was a brave man once
doesnt mean he isnt a coward now. I could never forgive someone for trashing my family the way he has seemingly done. Does that make him a better man? I dont think so.....just a power hungry one.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:42 PM
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9. THANK YOU
whatever McCain was in the past is long, long gone - he's a despicable cowardly bush whore now
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 09:17 PM
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21. Have I told you lately
that I love you?

:hi:

:loveya:

Rock on, Skittles :)
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 09:54 PM
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27. HOWDY MIDORI
THAT COWARD MCCAIN CAN GO F*** HIMSELF
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 09:06 PM
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17. I would never vote for a two-faced hypocritical coward who enabled torture
when he, of all people in the Congress, knew better. May he get a pile of just desserts heaped upon him with every woman of a lick of sense, and men too, voting against him who has sold his soul to Lucifer imo for a pot of political gold.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:43 PM
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10. I'm just not getting the Repukes. I strongly believe that the public
made a definite statement in this last election, and they aren't willing to tolerate those that have been running this country...and that includes the Christian Right. I understand that this is McCain's way of trying to get past the primaries, but it will not endear him to the general populace.

I don't think the Repukes get it, based on their actions. The people don't want any more of the same. And the Repukes keep trying to give it to them.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:51 PM
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11. McLame is hypocrite and a fool.
He thinks that if he gets the Busholini base to endorse him that he can garner the Rethug nomination. I suspect that he has made a deal to get Jeb Bush as VP.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:59 PM
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16. He's definitely sold his soul to the devil, in pursuit of power. And I just
wish he'd run with Jeb Bush. The loss to the Repukes would be overwhelming, IMO.
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u2spirit Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 10:25 PM
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31. If he does that he will be assassinated
Jeb as VP is a very dangerous choice if you value your life. Ask Reagan.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:52 PM
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13. McCain is a trainwreck of a man
I keep watching him bemusedly, wondering what new depths he will plumb in his desperation.

He isn't quite like say Bush, in that, he has done some stuff that (on the face of it at least) is admirable (many aeons ago but still I wouldn't have ever called him as pathetic as say Bush).

But now watching him is SO like looking at a trainwreck -watching him fall lower and lower and lower......

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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:55 PM
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14. This is great news
If Mac is the front runner and this is the direction the pubs think they gotta take to win in '08, especially after the midterm thumping, then we are blessed.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 09:08 PM
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18. Remember Jon Stewarts's interview?
"Oh no, Senator, Don't tell me you're going to crazy town?"
"I'm afraid so."
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 09:08 PM
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19. He made a deal with the Devil...
now he's trying to get out of it.
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 09:23 PM
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22. It is like McCain has become a Stepford Wife
They took him and replaced him with duplicate who follows all the RW rules.

It shows me McCain has no backbone, that he is willing to say or do anything (both in 2000 and now) to win. Anything.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 09:36 PM
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25. This explains why he's not on Jon or Stephen anymore
Edited on Sun Nov-19-06 09:36 PM by krispos42
Last time I saw him on the Daily Show, Jon asked him a couple of pointed questions and McCain looked like a deer in the headlights that wanted to crawl away and hide.

He used to be on TDS fairly regularly. Not anymore.

<edit: there's no 'a' in Stephen!!!>
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