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Jcrowley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:06 AM Original message |
Some Basic Facts About the UCLA Case |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
1. Cops not suspended? |
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lumpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
21. So, follow orders or get tasered, even if no laws |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
2. The blame goes to Gonzales Ashcroft and thier bosses plus the |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:21 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Or, perhaps, these guards were just shitty at their jobs. |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:32 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. these cops were LAPD wannabees |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:47 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. I don't disagree. n/t |
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MurrayDelph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
33. Not just "LAPD wannabees" |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
14. Why did you specify Reno and the Dem Admin and not specify. |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:46 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I'm not trying to make a point about Reno-- |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. I believe the poster was referring to the fact that it is even possible |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:22 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I should have included that this was a top down incident that |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 06:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
37. IA, and the culture they created among people who work for the |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
3. "Random ID checks" are not singling out an individual and asking |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:23 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Random checks by definition |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:47 AM Response to Reply #7 |
19. No, actually "random" checks in a university setting, mean checking |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:39 PM Response to Reply #19 |
38. If every student in the room had an equal probability of being the one selected |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 09:02 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Right, which means singling one student out of a group is NOT |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:26 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. You're right - distinctions always act as filters and funneling to |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
4. Even Taser Int (with all of their ethically challenged actions)... |
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Jcrowley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:27 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. As was pointed out |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
6. quite right-- and the "policy" of tasering to induce compliance... |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
10. If I tasered you , and you fell down, because of being tasered, |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:37 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. That is part of why it seems so horrible to me. |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:41 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. You know what I can't stand are these right wingers who are.... |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:48 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. That's ridiculous. |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
31. yes |
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Jcrowley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:38 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Unlikely |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:23 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. After having your muscles all contracted.... I know I wouldn't be able to stand |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:39 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. It would be difficult at best. |
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warrens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
17. I say just taser the cops in public five or six times |
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nebenaube (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
22. "pain compliance technicque" |
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TlalocW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
23. Huh, when I was in college |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:17 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. It wasn't a computer lab it was a library. |
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Alsteen (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:34 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Sorry |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:40 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. ok. But still, all reports indicate that other folks besides students |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 04:07 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. yeah, and did he have to sign in with a password to use a computer in the computer lab? |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 09:11 AM Response to Reply #32 |
40. Since your wife knows the "entire lowdown".... |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-22-06 04:01 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. The kid didn't deserve what happened to him. |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
24. I can't friggin believe they weren't suspended. |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
29. Here's a nauseating conservative response to the whole thing |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 06:51 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. The silence would have been deafening on the right. |
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